Challenge Jester - Opinions

I love my Optima Baron, rode an HP SpeedMachine and felt it was a decent bent as well

"Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AfQHb.856847$6C4.754820@pd7tw1no...

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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on.

What's

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people's opinions on these?

Rob.

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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on. What's people's opinions on these?

Rob.

The Jester is a lot of fun and a seriously fast machine, I had a Challenge Wizard up until recently,
also very nice.

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Rob <[email hidden]> wrote:
: I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
: the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on. What's people's opinions on these?

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Eurobents rule 😉

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Jester is fast but quite heavy - the Optima Baron is noticeably lighter. And I personally am not
very comfortable on the Challenge ally seat.

US-branded recumbents, with the former exception of BikeE, are not at all common hereabouts and tend
to be more expensive than the local opposition due to shipping costs and assorted 'orrible taxes.

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"Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<AfQHb.856847$6C4.754820@pd7tw1no>...

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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on. What's people's opinions on these?

Rob.

I think there is one secret of Dutch bicycle engineering that everyone would like to know. How the
hell do you start with an ALUMINUM frame and end up with a bicycle heavy enough to give Arnold
Schwarzenegger a double hernia? Now that the British military has foresworn the use of depleated
uranium, their army is looking at ways of propelling Dutch bicycles at enemy tanks. But, it makes
sense actually. One would not think it of the Dutch, a gentle people usually associated with beer
brewing, tulip growing, choclate making, and hashish smoking. But Holland has the highest rate of
bicycle theft in Europe, if not the world! After having their wallets drained by VAT taxes on a new
bicycle, the purchase of a proper bicycle lock is only a mocking dream. So, it would seem that Dutch
manufacturers are attempting to deter bicycle theft by making them too heavy to steal.

I actually own a Dutch recumbent. It is extremely well made. Blazingly fast on the flats. Supremely
comfortable. A bit heavy, though.

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Jester is fast but quite heavy - the Optima Baron is noticeably lighter. And I personally am not
very comfortable on the Challenge ally seat.

US-branded recumbents, with the former exception of BikeE, are not at all common hereabouts
and tend to be more expensive than the local opposition due to shipping costs and assorted
'orrible taxes.

I've not ridden the Jester but it would appear that the Baron would be heavier than the Jester no?

ROTFLMAO, Steve!
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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on.

What's

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people's opinions on these?

Rob.

I think there is one secret of Dutch bicycle engineering that everyone would like to know. How the
hell do you start with an ALUMINUM frame and end up with a bicycle heavy enough to give Arnold
Schwarzenegger a double hernia? Now that the British military has foresworn the use of depleated
uranium, their army is looking at ways of propelling Dutch bicycles at enemy tanks. But, it makes
sense actually. One would not think it of the Dutch, a gentle people usually associated with beer
brewing, tulip growing, choclate making, and hashish smoking. But Holland has the highest rate of
bicycle theft in Europe, if not the world! After having their wallets drained by VAT taxes on a
new bicycle, the purchase of a proper bicycle lock is only a mocking dream. So, it would seem that
Dutch manufacturers are attempting to deter bicycle theft by making them too heavy to steal.

I actually own a Dutch recumbent. It is extremely well made. Blazingly fast on the flats.
Supremely comfortable. A bit heavy, though.

"Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:AfQHb.856847$6C4.754820@pd7tw1no:

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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on. What's people's opinions on these?

Rob.

I had an HP Velotechnik Streetmachine GT, pictures and a few comments at
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I sold the Streetmachine due to a neck problem, and the in-ability of the seat to go more upright. I
now wish I had tried to fabricate a seat bracket that would have allowed a more upright position.
Anyone want to trade your Streetmachine for a Haluzak Hybrid Race?
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Mark Leuck said:

I've not ridden the Jester but it would appear that the Baron would be heavier than the Jester no?

Other way round. The Katana monoblade on the Jester weighs almost as much as a double-decker bus on
its own...

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Steve in SC said:

"Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<AfQHb.856847$6C4.754820@pd7tw1no>...

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I know everyone talks about the US made recumbents, but what about the European models? Like M5,
the Challenge, HP Velotechnic and so on. What's people's opinions on these?

I actually own a Dutch recumbent. It is extremely well made. Blazingly fast on the flats.
Supremely comfortable. A bit heavy, though.

Exactly! It's fast on the flats. Holland is perfectly flat, so it's always fast ;-) Although... I
live near the coast and we have some nasty sand dunes overhere.

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