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Chainline weirdness

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  1. I've now fitted the new TA Alize track cranks and bottom bracket and the
    chainline is a very atypical 46.5mm, as measured with my vernier
    calipers. The BB is the correct 103mm TA Axix Light and the spindle is
    symmetrical (I tried it the other way around, to be sure).

    The good news is I can buy that Goldtec track hub I wanted, because that
    will give a perfect chainline with this chainset, even if Goldtecs are
    incompatible with track standard.

    Sheldon - any chance of listing some *front* chainline measurements,
    with cranks and the recommended BB, on your excellent website? There's
    one above for starters...

  2. "Nulla tam bona est fortuna de qua nihil possis queri." - Syrus

    Zog The Undeniable said:

    I've now fitted the new TA Alize track cranks and bottom bracket and the
    chainline is a very atypical 46.5mm, as measured with my vernier
    calipers. The BB is the correct 103mm TA Axix Light and the spindle is
    symmetrical (I tried it the other way around, to be sure).

    This pretty much mirrors my experience a few years ago with this crank
    and bottom bracket combination when these models were introduced.
    Manipulating the cups to the left (both cups of the TA b/b are
    adjustable) allows one to cozen a couple of milllimeters of chainline
    movement toward the bike's centerline, but I found no practical way to
    get the crank to conform to the common contemporary track chainline
    range of 42.5 to 43 mm.

    -------------------------------
    John Dacey
    Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
    http://www.businesscycles.com
    Since 1983
    Our catalog of track equipment: online since 1996
    -------------------------------

  3. John Dacey said:

    This pretty much mirrors my experience a few years ago with this crank
    and bottom bracket combination when these models were introduced.
    Manipulating the cups to the left (both cups of the TA b/b are
    adjustable) allows one to cozen a couple of milllimeters of chainline
    movement toward the bike's centerline, but I found no practical way to
    get the crank to conform to the common contemporary track chainline
    range of 42.5 to 43 mm.

    My Axix is not adjustable. The RH cup is fixed, and the instructions
    make this clear.

  4. "Rerum omnium magister usus." - Caesar

    Zog The Undeniable said:
    John Dacey said:

    This pretty much mirrors my experience a few years ago with this crank
    and bottom bracket combination when these models were introduced.
    Manipulating the cups to the left (both cups of the TA b/b are
    adjustable) allows one to cozen a couple of milllimeters of chainline
    movement toward the bike's centerline, but I found no practical way to
    get the crank to conform to the common contemporary track chainline
    range of 42.5 to 43 mm.

    My Axix is not adjustable. The RH cup is fixed, and the instructions
    make this clear.

    The unit I tried used "adjustable" cups with lockrings for left and
    right sides as shown in the picture on TA's webstite:
    http://www.specialites-ta.com/produits/boitiers_gb.htm#

    Clicking on the "more details" link on that page brings up a diagram
    showing a unit with a traditionally flanged fixed cup which I assume
    is a more recent generation which you have.

    When I first encountered this chainline issue a few years ago, I
    returned the whole stock of these cranks I had bought to the
    distributor from which I'd gotten them. The subject came up again in
    conversation some months ago and they advised me that the source of
    the problem was a batch of bottom bracket spindles whose tapers were
    out of spec and the wide chainline matter had been resolved.

    Your report would indicate otherwise.
    -------------------------------
    John Dacey
    Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
    Since 1983
    Comprehensive catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
    http://www.businesscycles.com

  5. John Dacey said:

    When I first encountered this chainline issue a few years ago, I
    returned the whole stock of these cranks I had bought to the
    distributor from which I'd gotten them. The subject came up again in
    conversation some months ago and they advised me that the source of
    the problem was a batch of bottom bracket spindles whose tapers were
    out of spec and the wide chainline matter had been resolved.

    Your report would indicate otherwise.

    The cranks go far enough onto the tapers that clearance between the
    crank and the cup is *minimal* (the cranks are chamfered to just miss
    the cups). I think the distributor was having you on.

    Anyway, the solution is a Goldtec hub - comparable in price to DA, but
    also with a weird chainline.

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