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  1. I just put a new chain on my Sears 12 speed road bike. Went for a ride
    and the chain slipped a tooth on the smallest rear sprocket, every
    crank revolution or so, under moderate and heavy pedal pressure. It
    finally quit slipping after the first 15 miles or so. The only
    condidtions that changed during the ride are (A) the temperature
    warmed from 40F to 55F and (B) the chain got dusty from the ride on
    the gravel road.

    I should also mention that before putting the new chain on I boiled it
    in grease, let it cool then wiped it with a rag. It was VERY well
    lubricated.

    The sprocket teeth look good. Very symetrical from front to back as
    opposed to being hooked or worn otherwise. Is it common for a new
    chain with good lubrication to slip on a freshly cleaned sprocket?

  2. Greg wrote:
    || I should also mention that before putting the new chain on I boiled
    || it in grease, let it cool then wiped it with a rag. It was VERY well
    || lubricated.

    Wowl Chained boiled in grease. Must be messy as heck.

  3. Quoted message said:

    The sprocket teeth look good. Very symetrical from front to back as
    opposed to being hooked or worn otherwise. Is it common for a new
    chain with good lubrication to slip on a freshly cleaned sprocket?

    More generally, my experience tinkering with mountain bikes is that a set
    of cogs and the chain are "a match". A mechanic friend of mine says that
    the chain does stretch over time. After a while, the chain fits your gears
    like a glove.

    I encountered slipping when I changed only my rear cassette; similarly,
    when I changed only the chain. I hear it's best to change cogs and chain at
    the same time, but I haven't been doing that due to cost.

    --
    Jem Berkes
    http://www.sysdesign.ca/

  4. (Greg) said:

    I just put a new chain on my Sears 12 speed road bike. Went for a ride
    and the chain slipped a tooth on the smallest rear sprocket, every
    crank revolution or so, under moderate and heavy pedal pressure. It
    finally quit slipping after the first 15 miles or so. The only
    condidtions that changed during the ride are (A) the temperature
    warmed from 40F to 55F and (B) the chain got dusty from the ride on
    the gravel road.

    I should also mention that before putting the new chain on I boiled it
    in grease, let it cool then wiped it with a rag. It was VERY well
    lubricated.

    The sprocket teeth look good. Very symetrical from front to back as
    opposed to being hooked or worn otherwise. Is it common for a new
    chain with good lubrication to slip on a freshly cleaned sprocket?

    Howdy,

    My guess is that you had a stiff link, but that it loosened up after a
    few miles.

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth

    If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

  5. "Kenneth" wrote: My guess is that you had a stiff link, but that it
    loosened up after a few miles.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I'll bet that's it. I have a very hard time visualizing how a chain that is
    wrapped around a sprocket, engaging several teeth, could possibly "slip."
    It would have to rise over the tops of all the teeth that are engaged at
    once.

  6. Go here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

  7. Jem Berkes said:
    Quoted message said:

    The sprocket teeth look good. Very symetrical from front to back as
    opposed to being hooked or worn otherwise. Is it common for a new
    chain with good lubrication to slip on a freshly cleaned sprocket?

    More generally, my experience tinkering with mountain bikes is that a set
    of cogs and the chain are "a match". A mechanic friend of mine says that
    the chain does stretch over time. After a while, the chain fits your gears
    like a glove.

    Can someone confirm this, sicne I've changed chains, hubs etc at
    different times without a problem. And since the chain has a certain
    number of links which may or may not sync with the same teeth on front
    or rear cogs I find it hard to believe since each tooth and chain link
    will wear differently and thus "average out" over time.

  8. Jem Berkes said:

    A mechanic friend of mine says that
    the chain does stretch over time. After a while, the chain fits your gears
    like a glove.

    Howdy,

    I would suggest that your friend is half right...

    The chain does "stretch" over time (actually it gets longer due to
    wear, but nothing is "stretchin'"😉, but as it does, the fit on the
    cogs gets worse, not better. If you let it go, eventually this
    "stretch" requires replacement of both the chain, and the cogs.

    All the best,
    --
    Kenneth

    If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    More generally, my experience tinkering with mountain bikes is that a
    set of cogs and the chain are "a match". A mechanic friend of mine
    says that the chain does stretch over time. After a while, the chain
    fits your gears like a glove.

    Can someone confirm this, sicne I've changed chains, hubs etc at
    different times without a problem. And since the chain has a certain
    number of links which may or may not sync with the same teeth on
    front or rear cogs I find it hard to believe since each tooth and
    chain link will wear differently and thus "average out" over time.

    Sheldon Brown's resource seems quite thorough on this subject. It seems
    that there is not really stretching (in the conventional sense) involved,
    but rather an issue of the sprocket and chain wearing together. If they're
    not heavily worn out, then you can probably replace either part.

    But if they have worn out together (as with mine) then replacing one of the
    parts causes a mismatch, leading to jumping or skipping under heavy loads.
    I only really noticed it when I made an effort to massively accelerate,
    slipping the chain and hurting my crotch somewhat.

    --
    Jem Berkes
    http://www.sysdesign.ca/

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