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  1. Has anyone ever come across this issue of chain slap on the CF arm of
    their RD?

    I have a Campy Record CT setup with a short arm RD. The whole system
    essentially works well, quiet and efficient. But when I am on the 19 or
    21 rear cog (12-25 cassette with 50 at the front), I would get this
    repetitive tapping sound coming from the rear. The tapping noise
    disappears when I move to the 23 or 17 and beyond, where the system runs
    silent again. On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    I have tried to fine tune the cable tension/RD alignment without
    improvement.

    So does anyone have any suggestion as to what the problem could be or
    how it might be corrected? I was wondering if the H screw setting has
    any relevance in this matter? As a matter of fact, what should be the
    criteria for setting the H screw?

    Thanks in advance.
    --

  2. Artoi said:


    On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    It sounds like you are not using the approved Brev. Camp. carbon fiber
    composite chain.

    Cafone! Cornuto! Figlio di buona donna!

    Chalo

  3. Chalo said:

    Cafone! Cornuto! Figlio di buona donna!

    What would that be in plain English?

    Sergio
    Pisa

  4. Artoi said:

    Has anyone ever come across this issue of chain slap on the CF arm of
    their RD?

    I have a Campy Record CT setup with a short arm RD. The whole system
    essentially works well, quiet and efficient. But when I am on the 19 or
    21 rear cog (12-25 cassette with 50 at the front), I would get this
    repetitive tapping sound coming from the rear. The tapping noise
    disappears when I move to the 23 or 17 and beyond, where the system runs
    silent again. On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    I have tried to fine tune the cable tension/RD alignment without
    improvement.

    So does anyone have any suggestion as to what the problem could be or
    how it might be corrected? I was wondering if the H screw setting has
    any relevance in this matter? As a matter of fact, what should be the
    criteria for setting the H screw?

    Thanks in advance.
    --

    Assuming you have a 10 speed setup, check if you have the spacers in
    the correct position. With 10 speed cassettes, at least on the Veloce-
    Mirage, there are 3 or 4 different spacers of about three different
    widths. On Centaur-Chorus-Record cassettes there are fewer spacers
    since some of the cogs are bolted together. But there are still a
    couple different widths of spacers. You may have a thinner spaceer
    where a thciker one needs to be. That is one nice thing about 9 speed
    Campagnolo, all the spacers are identical.

    I think on the Campagnolo website you can find PDF tech documents that
    show the correct order of spacers.

  5. sergio said:


    Chalo said:

    Cafone! Cornuto! Figlio di buona donna!

    What would that be in plain English?

    Why, I'm sure you already know that would be as follows:

    "Oaf! Cuckold! Son of a good woman!"

    The words translate easily into English. The essence of the words,
    not so much.

    Chalo

  6. Artoi said:

    Has anyone ever come across this issue of chain slap on the CF arm of
    their RD?

    I have a Campy Record CT setup with a short arm RD. The whole system
    essentially works well, quiet and efficient. But when I am on the 19 or
    21 rear cog (12-25 cassette with 50 at the front), I would get this
    repetitive tapping sound coming from the rear. The tapping noise
    disappears when I move to the 23 or 17 and beyond, where the system runs
    silent again. On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    I have tried to fine tune the cable tension/RD alignment without
    improvement.

    So does anyone have any suggestion as to what the problem could be or
    how it might be corrected? I was wondering if the H screw setting has
    any relevance in this matter? As a matter of fact, what should be the
    criteria for setting the H screw?

    Is the cog spacing even? A misplaced spacer perhaps?
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:
    Artoi said:

    Has anyone ever come across this issue of chain slap on the CF arm of
    their RD?

    I have a Campy Record CT setup with a short arm RD. The whole system
    essentially works well, quiet and efficient. But when I am on the 19 or
    21 rear cog (12-25 cassette with 50 at the front), I would get this
    repetitive tapping sound coming from the rear. The tapping noise
    disappears when I move to the 23 or 17 and beyond, where the system runs
    silent again. On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    I have tried to fine tune the cable tension/RD alignment without
    improvement.

    So does anyone have any suggestion as to what the problem could be or
    how it might be corrected? I was wondering if the H screw setting has
    any relevance in this matter? As a matter of fact, what should be the
    criteria for setting the H screw?

    Thanks in advance.
    --

    Assuming you have a 10 speed setup, check if you have the spacers in
    the correct position. With 10 speed cassettes, at least on the Veloce-
    Mirage, there are 3 or 4 different spacers of about three different
    widths. On Centaur-Chorus-Record cassettes there are fewer spacers
    since some of the cogs are bolted together. But there are still a
    couple different widths of spacers. You may have a thinner spaceer
    where a thciker one needs to be. That is one nice thing about 9 speed
    Campagnolo, all the spacers are identical.

    That's a good thought that I should double check. I am 99.99% sure the
    various spacers were correctly placed in the cassette. I followed
    Campy's PDF document when I cleaned and reinstalled just two weeks ago.
    It's been the same situation before and after. Yes, it is a 10 speed
    setup.
    --

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chalo said:
    Artoi said:


    On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    It sounds like you are not using the approved Brev. Camp. carbon fiber
    composite chain.

    The don't exist! :P
    --

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    A Muzi said:
    Artoi said:

    Has anyone ever come across this issue of chain slap on the CF arm of
    their RD?

    I have a Campy Record CT setup with a short arm RD. The whole system
    essentially works well, quiet and efficient. But when I am on the 19 or
    21 rear cog (12-25 cassette with 50 at the front), I would get this
    repetitive tapping sound coming from the rear. The tapping noise
    disappears when I move to the 23 or 17 and beyond, where the system runs
    silent again. On close examination on a repair stand, I think I've
    identified the source of the mystery sound to be contacts b/n the chain
    and the CF arm of the RD.

    I have tried to fine tune the cable tension/RD alignment without
    improvement.

    So does anyone have any suggestion as to what the problem could be or
    how it might be corrected? I was wondering if the H screw setting has
    any relevance in this matter? As a matter of fact, what should be the
    criteria for setting the H screw?

    Is the cog spacing even? A misplaced spacer perhaps?

    It is. The spacer possibility was raised and has now been eliminated.
    I've double checked and it's not the cause. The contact point appeared
    to be at the lower end next to the lower jockey wheel of the RD arm
    rather than at the upper end.

    Totally baffled.
    --

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