>>> Use the least expensive compatible chain, BTW, just like engine >>> oil.
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>> That may not be the best advice (for the car).
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> Oh? And I suppose one should not switch brands of gasoline because > the engine is used to one kind. I always buy Union Oil no less. > It costs more and must be better therefore.
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As I understand it, different manufacturers add different "additive packages" to the base unleaded gasoline to complete their product. People Who Should Know (tm) tell me that it is best to not mix them. Same with oils.
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Self serving advice. Just consider damage caused by adding Chevron motor oil to your Shell lubricated engine in a pinch and incurring engine damage. Such a manufacturer would be open to enormous damage claims. Besides, you ought to visit the refineries in your area to see what tankers line up to get filled. Terrible Herbst and Rotten Robbie as well as many other independents are filled at these noted brand name installations.
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No doubt. We know that all of these products are based on a common stock shared and standardized throughout the industry. We also know that each company adds it's own additives as they load the trucks at the pumping station. Who knows what goes into the off-brand trucks. In the old days that was a favorite way of getting rid of various toxic byproducts, just mix 'em into the gasoline.
The way you say that I take it you believe in conspiracies and don't believe in EPA and others monitor these substances that are dumped on the public to exhaust to our outdoors.
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Oh yes, and always clean off any grease on a new chain before use, because it's only a preservative!!! (I've heard said.)
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Anyway, not so much that the car's used to one or the other, but staying with a particular product gives you a fuel or lubricant that has been engineered to work. Mixing them does not.
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I'm glad to hear you are brand loyal. Maybe you can explain what the advantage in that belief is.
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Sorry, no brand loyalty. Just a knowledge that the combination of additives in any brand is tested to work well and that a combination with any other brand isn't.
You keep saying that but where do you get this information that you allude to?
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Now do I think it's a big deal? Certainly not with gasoline, where a manufacturer who produced something notably incompatible with other brands would certainly hear from the rest of the industry. But, genuine chemical engineers tell me that in the case of motor oils this possible incompatibility is enough of a factor as to discourage mixing.
So why do you bring up this specious drivel? This seems to be a trend on wreck.bike, brought up just for the need to be contrary and to inject a bit of mystery science into discussions.
Really? KMC-10 (the box with the Campagnolo logo) is our preferred new bike chain.
-- Andrew Muzi
Andy: Are you using the KMC-10 on both Campy & Shimano with good results? I've always liked KMC chains, but as I don't have a 10-speed drivetrain, I haven't tried that version on my own bike yet, and I'm hesitant to experiment on my customers.
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Mike Jacoubowsky said:
I've always found front shifting performance to be better with Shimano chains than Wipperman or SRAM. The KMC chains I've tried have worked very well though.
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I agree, particularly for front, chainring shifts. Not for 10 sp however.
Really? KMC-10 (the box with the Campagnolo logo) is our preferred new bike chain.
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:33:03 GMT, Jim <[email hidden]>
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How often should a chain be replaced on a road bike?
When it wears out.
How often *should* it wear out? That depends on a number of factors; riding conditions, brand and model of chain, sprocket condition, lubrication and cleaning habits, weather, and the local perversity of the universe all contribute to the end result. Typical values are anywhere from 2000 miles to 6000 miles, and some users' wear-out points lie outside those limits. *Your* mileage may vary. -- Typoes are a feature, not a bug. Some gardening required to reply via email. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.