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  1. I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    Thanks,
    Ted

    --
    Ted Bennett
    Portland, OR

  2. This sounds like an interesting project. I often ride a 'fixie' and
    have thought that a chaincase might be nice to have.

    Do you have access to an 'older' British Raleigh?

    I know some of them had fine looking chaincases.
    Lewis.

    ***************

  3. Ted said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    The traditional sheet metal works as long as you can stand
    the rattles. New Euro nylon designs snap apart in to a top
    and bottom segmant with two snap - in strips at the center
    opening. Look at a Kettker/Batavus/Olympia, etc at an LBS
    up close. The new types are two about equal pieces so you
    need not have a bolt-in seatstay.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  4. "Ted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case,

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it

    http://www.phred.org/~alex/bikes/chaincase.html

  5. Ted said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    Thanks,
    Ted


    chain tube, like they use on many euro recumbent bikes.

  6. Jim Hall said:
    Ted said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    Quoted message said:

    chain tube, like they use on many euro recumbent bikes.

    I'm aware of those, but I'm interested in a full enclosure. Running the
    chain through tubes leaves the chain exposed around the sprockets.

    Ted

    --
    Ted Bennett
    Portland, OR

  7. A Muzi said:
    Ted said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    The traditional sheet metal works as long as you can stand
    the rattles. New Euro nylon designs snap apart in to a top
    and bottom segmant with two snap - in strips at the center
    opening. Look at a Kettker/Batavus/Olympia, etc at an LBS
    up close. The new types are two about equal pieces so you
    need not have a bolt-in seatstay.

    Thanks, Andrew, that is helpful.

    Ted

    --
    Ted Bennett
    Portland, OR

  8. wouldn't be too hard to encase the rear cluster with a plastic box, and
    drill holes for the drive and return portion of the chain with a chain
    tube entering the box, would be much more quiet than metal, and teflon
    chain tubes are pretty efficent for power transmission

    Ted said:
    Jim Hall said:
    Ted said:

    I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    will have to be done far less frequently.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?

    Quoted message said:

    <>chain tube, like they use on many euro recumbe

    I'm aware of those, but I'm interested in a full enclosure. Running the
    chain through tubes leaves the chain exposed around the sprockets.

    Ted

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jim Hall said:

    wouldn't be too hard to encase the rear cluster with a plastic box, and
    drill holes for the drive and return portion of the chain with a chain
    tube entering the box, would be much more quiet than metal, and teflon
    chain tubes are pretty efficent for power transmission

    Yes, that is what I have envisioned, but a "box" would have to be
    separable to allow installation and removal. The appearance would be
    improved by incorporating curved surfaces. I think such a part could be
    made in some composite material. This is intended for a single rear
    cog. Enclosing a cluster and derailleur would require a big ugly thing.

    I'm not sure what you mean by teflon tubes being efficient for power
    transmission. Power is transmitted by the chain, and the chain will not
    contact the tube except for when it sags as when coasting, in which case
    it does not slide in the tube.

    Ted

    Quoted message said:


    Ted said:
    Jim Hall said:

    Ted wrote:

    >I am considering constructing an enclosed chain case, in the interests
    >of cleanliness and chain longevity. This is for a derailleur-free bike,
    >and there will have to be some provision for allowing the rear axle to
    >be moved, for adjusting chain tension. I expect that chain tensioning
    >will have to be done far less frequently.
    >
    >Does anyone have any suggestions on what material to use, and how to
    >design it so that it doesn't drip oil and yet can be (partially)
    >dismantled to allow the rear wheel to be removed?
    >
    >

    Quoted message said:

    <>chain tube, like they use on many euro recumbe

    I'm aware of those, but I'm interested in a full enclosure. Running the
    chain through tubes leaves the chain exposed around the sprockets.

    Ted

    --
    Ted Bennett
    Portland, OR

  10. Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:12:59 GMT, Ted:

    Quoted message said:

    Jim Hall <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    chain tube, like they use on many euro recumbent bikes.

    I'm aware of those, but I'm interested in a full enclosure. Running the
    chain through tubes leaves the chain exposed around the sprockets.

    Look at the following solutions, which are already available in Germany
    for some time:

    Chain Tubes in combination with plastic enclosures:
    http://www.utopia-fahrrad.de/Zubehoer_Html/Kapitel_Html/141_Country_Nachruesten_17.html

    Different chain cases:
    http://www.vsf-all-ride.de/VSF-Flyer.pdf

    Andreas

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