Chain break

"Glen F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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1. What did I do wrong, if anything? As far as I can recall, the pin went straight in without any
fuss when I fitted the damn thing. There might have been some minor pin adjustment needed to
centre it or free-up the link, but it certainly wasn't misaligned or pushed in and out
multiple times.

If you did have to fiddle with the pin after you'd put it in, you did it wrong. I have never had any
trouble with any shimano pins binding the chain when installed correctly. The trick is to install it
till it goes 'click', then push it in further and there's another faint click to indicate that it's
fully seated. I have never had any problems with them, they're quite clever really. Cheers Gemma

Rejoining this thing (minus one link, and with a new pin) I note that these pins have a flanged end,
from which one pushes, and a grooved end, which engages the plate on the other side. (Hence your
"click", I guess.)

Looking again at the broken bits, I'm surprised to see from the shape of things that it must have
been the flanged end that let go first. Hmmmm. Unfortunately, I guess that rather suggests that YT
must have stuffed up by pushing the pin too far - so damaging the plate hole or the flange or both -
though I've no recollection at all of doing that...

"Glen F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Broke the chain on my commuter last night.

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1. What did I do wrong, if anything?

Bought a Shimano chain! :-)

It could have been, as suggested, pushing the pin a bit far. I don't like Shimano chains simply
because you have to mess with the links. OTOH I take my chain off for cleaning reasonably regularly.
Without getting into the chain cleaning Jihad, if you don't do this Shimano chains probably aren't
such a problem.

Some people seem to feel a reduction in shifting performance with other brands. I've never noticed
this on the Shimano chained bikes I've ridden. My advice would be to get a mid range Wipperman/Sram
chain with the quick link. They're also a few bucks cheaper than a comparable Shimano chain in my
experience.

Dave - who has a mongrel Shimano/Sachs chain on the commuter

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"Glen F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Rejoining this thing (minus one link, and with a new pin) I note that these pins have a flanged
end, from which one pushes, and a grooved end, which engages the plate on the other side. (Hence
your "click", I guess.)

Looking again at the broken bits, I'm surprised to see from the shape of things that it must have
been the flanged end that let go first. Hmmmm. Unfortunately, I guess that rather suggests that YT
must have stuffed up by pushing the pin too far - so damaging the plate hole or the flange or both
- though I've no recollection at all of doing that...

I recently screwed up a shimano 9 spd chain like this - put in the correct pin wrongly at first,
then had to take a link out and connect it with a standard pin. Didn't last longer than about 2
wks. In the good old days you could use any pin, but with narrower shimano chains that ain't
possible now.

cheers, Jeff

Always keep a 8/9 speed master link in your saddle bag , a small expense $5 for a little insurance
against a long walk home. KMC, Sachs etc all make them except Shimano.

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"Glen F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Broke the chain on my commuter last night.

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Quoted message said:

1. What did I do wrong, if anything?

Bought a Shimano chain! :-)

It could have been, as suggested, pushing the pin a bit far. I don't like Shimano chains simply
because you have to mess with the links. OTOH I take my chain off for cleaning reasonably
regularly. Without getting into the chain cleaning Jihad, if you don't do this Shimano chains
probably aren't such a problem.

Some people seem to feel a reduction in shifting performance with other brands. I've never noticed
this on the Shimano chained bikes I've ridden. My advice would be to get a mid range
Wipperman/Sram chain with the quick link. They're also a few bucks cheaper than a comparable
Shimano chain in my experience.

Dave - who has a mongrel Shimano/Sachs chain on the commuter