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  1. http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  2. (john) said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    What's to worry about, John? The article says a lead-lined kevlar suit
    will protect you from the secret government mind-control rays, and you can
    buy them online here http://www.lead-lined-kevlar-suits-r-us.com

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Carey Gregory said:
    (john) said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    What's to worry about, John? The article says a lead-lined kevlar suit
    will protect you from the secret government mind-control rays, and you can
    buy them online here http://www.lead-lined-kevlar-suits-r-us.com

    It's a great URL, well worth the read. I'm particularly amused by the
    notion of "ELF microwave towers," when you consider that "ELF" stands
    for "extremely low frequency." I assume these are manufactured by
    giant midgets.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  4. Carey Gregory <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (john) said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    What's to worry about, John? The article says a lead-lined kevlar suit
    will protect you from the secret government mind-control rays, and you can
    buy them online here http://www.lead-lined-kevlar-suits-r-us.com

    I would love to see them stick one up in your street, or your backside
    preferably. In fact you can get the bee keepers kit
    http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/sales/screenx.htm On second thoughts
    seeing you wear that would be enough. I use towerbusters myself
    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/HHgandTBupdate26may03.shtml
    http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html

    You can see their good effect using a meter. We can always tape you
    to the bits at the top so you can prove they are harmless. I have
    some excellent parcel tape. And I'll tape a mobile phone to your ear
    at the same time.

    cheers

    john

  5. [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Carey Gregory said:
    (john) said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    What's to worry about, John? The article says a lead-lined kevlar suit
    will protect you from the secret government mind-control rays, and you can
    buy them online here http://www.lead-lined-kevlar-suits-r-us.com

    It's a great URL, well worth the read. I'm particularly amused by the
    notion of "ELF microwave towers," when you consider that "ELF" stands
    for "extremely low frequency." I assume these are manufactured by
    giant midgets.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

    I know killfile was invented for the likes of you, but as the years go
    by it is even more apparent you don't have a life other than sitting
    on Ngs laughing at the truth. "Get a life" was invented for you.

  6. (john) said:

    I use towerbusters myself

    Always the fashion plate. Metal colanders are so 'yesterday'.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    john said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Carey Gregory said:

    [email hidden] (john) wrote:

    >http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    What's to worry about, John? The article says a lead-lined kevlar suit
    will protect you from the secret government mind-control rays, and you can
    buy them online here http://www.lead-lined-kevlar-suits-r-us.com

    It's a great URL, well worth the read. I'm particularly amused by the
    notion of "ELF microwave towers," when you consider that "ELF" stands
    for "extremely low frequency." I assume these are manufactured by
    giant midgets.


    I know killfile was invented for the likes of you, but as the years go
    by it is even more apparent you don't have a life other than sitting
    on Ngs laughing at the truth. "Get a life" was invented for you.

    John, you're *so* uncharitable! You post mind-bendingly silly drivel,
    and then complain when someone points it out. But here I'm
    complimenting you for your (admittedly inadvertent) humorous
    contributious to the newsgroup and all you can do is gripe.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  8. "Carey Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (john) said:

    I use towerbusters myself

    Always the fashion plate. Metal colanders are so 'yesterday'.

    My vision is of John running around with an aluminum foil hat.

    HMc

  9. "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    Mmm
    http://www.rense.com/general44/cphone.htm

    --
    Ho hum
    Jez
    "Few of us can easily surrender our belief that
    society must somehow make sense. The thought
    that the State has lost its mind and is punishing so
    many innocent people is intolerable. And so the
    evidence has to be internally denied."
    - Arthur Miller

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Howard McCollister said:


    "Carey Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (john) said:

    I use towerbusters myself

    Always the fashion plate. Metal colanders are so 'yesterday'.

    My vision is of John running around with an aluminum foil hat.

    Don't be ridiculous. The alties all know that aluminum causes
    Alzheimer's Disease and therefore they are using gold leaf.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  11. Well if the energy from towers is so dangerous why are not all the ham radio
    operators dead at a young age? They have a bunch of old fossils on the
    microphones. Hams are allowed to operate with 1500 watts output power at
    lower frequencies which is in many cases more then a lot of commercial
    broadcast stations. When they use special antennas they can have effective
    radiated powers of over 10,000 watts. Some hams even have thier towers right
    next to thier bedrooms. Your average cell tower transmitter power is only
    50 watts or so.

    By the way ELF Microwaves is an OXYMORON!
    ELF is extremely low frequency (approximately 10 KHz)while microwaves are
    frequencies above about 900 MHz. That is several orders of magnitude
    difference. And for what it is worth the studies indicate the link between
    leukemia and high power electric lines doesn't exist.

    Gadzooks, if you look at the electric field produced by your housewiring the
    electric field density from it is much greater than any electric field you
    possibly may be exposed to from overhead utility lines.

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  12. [email hidden] (john) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

    Mobile mast row continues
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3251551.stm

    Owners Crown Castle say the mast will be reinstated
    Protesters face a third night camping in the open air to prevent a
    controversial mobile phone mast being re-erected after it was
    sabotaged by vandals.

    Villagers in Wishaw in Sutton Coldfield in the West Midlands set up
    the makeshift campsite on Friday after hearing that the mast's owners
    intended on re-erecting the structure.

    Residents blame it for a spate of serious illnesses among residents,
    including cancer cases.

    They have campaigned for the mast, operated by mobile phone company T
    Mobile, to be taken down.

    The 22-metre mast fell down on Bonfire Night after bolts were removed
    from the base of the structure in what police have described as an act
    of vandalism.

    Determined protest

    Around 10 protesters continued a vigil at the Bull Lane site over the
    weekend and said they were determined to stop attempts to mend it and
    would camp out for weeks if necessary.

    This is a criminal act of extreme vandalism which we are taking very
    seriously

    Crown Castle spokesman
    Protesters at the site bearing placards with slogans stating "No more
    masts" have had a mobile toilet and a caravan delivered to the protest
    site.

    But Crown Castle, the Warwick-based company that owns the land where
    the mast has been standing for nine years, says engineers will be back
    in the week to reinstall the equipment.

    A loss of signal was noticed just after midnight on Thursday by the
    T-mobile phone network.

    'Extreme vandalism'

    A Crown Castle spokesman said: "This is a criminal act of extreme
    vandalism which we are taking very seriously.

    Campaigner Eileen O'Connor says the mast has made many people ill

    "We are investigating the damage to the site and will review our
    options for reinstating the mast as soon as possible.

    "We understand that the siting of these types of installations within
    communities can sometimes cause concern."

    The spokesman added that the site complied with all planning and
    health and safety guidelines.

    Eileen O'Connor, spokeswoman for Sutton Coldfield Residents Against
    Masts, said: "It is beautiful without that mast towering over us.

    "I cannot believe the pure arrogance of them. There have been so many
    people made ill.

    "I plan legally and physically to stop them. Crown Castle
    unfortunately own the piece of land, but we will not co-operate with
    them on the adjoining pieces of land."

  13. Gee we finally found an Xray technician that won't hide behind the lead
    walls.

    Go for it Chuck if your brain isn't fried already. What you can't see won't
    hurt you but it may hurt me.

    "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well if the energy from towers is so dangerous why are not all the ham


    radio

    Quoted message said:

    operators dead at a young age? They have a bunch of old fossils on the
    microphones. Hams are allowed to operate with 1500 watts output power at
    lower frequencies which is in many cases more then a lot of commercial
    broadcast stations. When they use special antennas they can have effective
    radiated powers of over 10,000 watts. Some hams even have thier towers


    right

    Quoted message said:

    next to thier bedrooms. Your average cell tower transmitter power is only
    50 watts or so.

    By the way ELF Microwaves is an OXYMORON!
    ELF is extremely low frequency (approximately 10 KHz)while microwaves are
    frequencies above about 900 MHz. That is several orders of magnitude
    difference. And for what it is worth the studies indicate the link between
    leukemia and high power electric lines doesn't exist.

    Gadzooks, if you look at the electric field produced by your housewiring


    the

    Quoted message said:

    electric field density from it is much greater than any electric field you
    possibly may be exposed to from overhead utility lines.

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  14. BTW: I guess you don't need that door on your microwave anymore either.

    "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well if the energy from towers is so dangerous why are not all the ham


    radio

    Quoted message said:

    operators dead at a young age? They have a bunch of old fossils on the
    microphones. Hams are allowed to operate with 1500 watts output power at
    lower frequencies which is in many cases more then a lot of commercial
    broadcast stations. When they use special antennas they can have effective
    radiated powers of over 10,000 watts. Some hams even have thier towers


    right

    Quoted message said:

    next to thier bedrooms. Your average cell tower transmitter power is only
    50 watts or so.

    By the way ELF Microwaves is an OXYMORON!
    ELF is extremely low frequency (approximately 10 KHz)while microwaves are
    frequencies above about 900 MHz. That is several orders of magnitude
    difference. And for what it is worth the studies indicate the link between
    leukemia and high power electric lines doesn't exist.

    Gadzooks, if you look at the electric field produced by your housewiring


    the

    Quoted message said:

    electric field density from it is much greater than any electric field you
    possibly may be exposed to from overhead utility lines.

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  15. Good Morning Bob

    If I was an X-Ray Tech I would stand behind the lead wall due to the
    repeated exposure. Even the patient exposure is limited not only by the
    X-Ray intensity but by the TOTAL EXPOSURE. (Intensity X Time) When you
    consider the amount of time that an X-Ray tech spends around the X-Ray
    source and multiply that by the extremely low exposure then you will see why
    there is a lead wall. Yeah the patient is exposed to a higher level but for
    a much much shorter period of time. The X-ray tech is there day after day.

    One thing to understand is that RF Radiation is DIFFERENT than
    X-RAY's. RF Radiation unless controlled by a directive antenna will emanate
    from the antenna in a nearly spherical pattern. As a consequence the energy
    found at a point distant from the antenna is lower than the energy right
    next to the antenna. It is governed by good old mother nature and the energy
    decreases as a function of 1/R(Squared). Every time you double the distance
    the energy decreases by a factor of four. If you doubt this, there is a good
    book that in the very first chapter covers this base material. The book is
    titled "The Radar Handbook " by Skoloff. Anyone with a passing grade in
    9th grade algebra can read the very first chapter. If you live near a good
    size burg then it may be in the library. If it isn't then the library can
    borrow it
    from another that has it.

    You are incorrect in assuming that I do not use a door on the microwave
    oven. The oven operates in the 750-1000 watt range and being right next to
    it without appropriate shielding is not smart. (Remember the field intensity
    drops as a function of distance based on the inverse square law . Plot
    1/r(squared) on a sheet of graph paper for better visualization) I can stand
    right next to the oven. I usually can't get next to a cell tower antenna.
    Ever wonder why there are interlocks on the microwave door so it will not
    operate with the door cracked open ever so slightly.

    Your cell phone on the other hand operates at a power level of 300
    mW(milliwatts): that is 0.3 watts. (Your flashlight bulb burns more power or
    do flashlights represent a threat to you?) The antenna is not very efficient
    so the radiated energy is down from the 300 mW. The tissue heating if you
    place the antenna right next to your head is NOT SIGNIFICANT because of the
    area, tissue mass, and power distribution.

    Also when you place the cell phone antenna right next to your head the
    antenna detunes and the transmitter output drops below the 300 mW. Again any
    risk from the RF Radiation is going to be level of exposure times the time
    duration of the exposure.

    I have used cell phones for years, worked in broadcast and radar facilities
    were the transmitter outputs ranged from 50,000 watts to 1,000,000 watts ERP
    (Effective Radiated Power).

    You cannot pay me enough to walk in front of active ground based
    radar antenna within a 1000 feet, but beyond that I would not worry. The
    Radar uses a narrow beamwidth antenna which concentrates the RF Energy into
    a narrow field that rotates. I have no qualms about working under the
    antenna at a 50,000 watt broadcast station or the 1,000,000 watt ERP TV
    station while on the ground or nearby because the antennae are far enough
    away that my exposure is way below the safe limits.

    Oddly enough I am 52 and have outlived in absolute years two of Dad's
    siblings who died from cancer. One died at 45 and the other at 49. They did
    not work around RF, X-Ray, ionizing or non-ionizing sources. I have had
    kidney stones several times and one could surmise that RF caused the stones
    but then Dad had stones, he had two other brothers who had stones and his
    mother had stones. Sounds more like a genetic/dietary thing to me especially
    since we grew up in the Carolina Stone Belt.

    By the way, if you are so convinced of your position why do you hide behind
    a bogus e-mail address? Surely you know how to set up a temporary e-mail
    address on yahoo or msn?

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    BTW: I guess you don't need that door on your microwave anymore either.

    "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well if the energy from towers is so dangerous why are not all the ham


    radio

    Quoted message said:

    operators dead at a young age? They have a bunch of old fossils on the
    microphones. Hams are allowed to operate with 1500 watts output power at
    lower frequencies which is in many cases more then a lot of commercial
    broadcast stations. When they use special antennas they can have


    effective

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    radiated powers of over 10,000 watts. Some hams even have thier towers


    right

    Quoted message said:

    next to thier bedrooms. Your average cell tower transmitter power is


    only

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    50 watts or so.

    By the way ELF Microwaves is an OXYMORON!
    ELF is extremely low frequency (approximately 10 KHz)while microwaves


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    frequencies above about 900 MHz. That is several orders of magnitude
    difference. And for what it is worth the studies indicate the link


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leukemia and high power electric lines doesn't exist.

    Gadzooks, if you look at the electric field produced by your housewiring


    the

    Quoted message said:

    electric field density from it is much greater than any electric field


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    possibly may be exposed to from overhead utility lines.

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  16. whiplash said:

    Oddly enough I am 52 and have outlived in absolute years two of Dad's
    siblings who died from cancer. One died at 45 and the other at 49. They did
    not work around RF, X-Ray, ionizing or non-ionizing sources. I have had
    kidney stones several times and one could surmise that RF caused the stones
    but then Dad had stones, he had two other brothers who had stones and his
    mother had stones.

    Do you have cataracts?

    --
    Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

  17. Thanx for the basic physics and math lessons. I didn't require.

    As a person involved with various electromagnetic generated types of fields
    you sound knowledgable, at least in the elementary physics of the beast.
    This basic knowledge should cause you to understand the dangers of
    electromagnetic radiation in some situations and know it should not be made
    light of like some of the self proclaimed experts shooting their mouths off,
    do here. The ridiculling of a cautious person only shows immaturity, as far
    as the safety aspects go and my comments were made to exemplify those
    ridiculous comments.

    You should also know thet RF energy and Xray energy are exactly the same
    energy exept for frequency and radiate in exactly the same way unless
    controlled. I think you studied this in your basic parallelling radiography
    technique studies in your first year of training.

    I do not know who you are but I didn't assume anything about you and, as far
    as I know, did not address you in any way.

    Have a nice day.

    "whiplash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good Morning Bob

    If I was an X-Ray Tech I would stand behind the lead wall due to the
    repeated exposure. Even the patient exposure is limited not only by the
    X-Ray intensity but by the TOTAL EXPOSURE. (Intensity X Time) When you
    consider the amount of time that an X-Ray tech spends around the X-Ray
    source and multiply that by the extremely low exposure then you will see


    why

    Quoted message said:

    there is a lead wall. Yeah the patient is exposed to a higher level but


    for

    Quoted message said:

    a much much shorter period of time. The X-ray tech is there day after day.

    One thing to understand is that RF Radiation is DIFFERENT than
    X-RAY's. RF Radiation unless controlled by a directive antenna will


    emanate

    Quoted message said:

    from the antenna in a nearly spherical pattern. As a consequence the


    energy

    Quoted message said:

    found at a point distant from the antenna is lower than the energy right
    next to the antenna. It is governed by good old mother nature and the


    energy

    Quoted message said:

    decreases as a function of 1/R(Squared). Every time you double the


    distance

    Quoted message said:

    the energy decreases by a factor of four. If you doubt this, there is a


    good

    Quoted message said:

    book that in the very first chapter covers this base material. The book is
    titled "The Radar Handbook " by Skoloff. Anyone with a passing grade in
    9th grade algebra can read the very first chapter. If you live near a good
    size burg then it may be in the library. If it isn't then the library can
    borrow it
    from another that has it.

    You are incorrect in assuming that I do not use a door on the microwave
    oven. The oven operates in the 750-1000 watt range and being right next to
    it without appropriate shielding is not smart. (Remember the field


    intensity

    Quoted message said:

    drops as a function of distance based on the inverse square law . Plot
    1/r(squared) on a sheet of graph paper for better visualization) I can


    stand

    Quoted message said:

    right next to the oven. I usually can't get next to a cell tower antenna.
    Ever wonder why there are interlocks on the microwave door so it will not
    operate with the door cracked open ever so slightly.

    Your cell phone on the other hand operates at a power level of 300
    mW(milliwatts): that is 0.3 watts. (Your flashlight bulb burns more power


    or

    Quoted message said:

    do flashlights represent a threat to you?) The antenna is not very


    efficient

    Quoted message said:

    so the radiated energy is down from the 300 mW. The tissue heating if you
    place the antenna right next to your head is NOT SIGNIFICANT because of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    area, tissue mass, and power distribution.

    Also when you place the cell phone antenna right next to your head the
    antenna detunes and the transmitter output drops below the 300 mW. Again


    any

    Quoted message said:

    risk from the RF Radiation is going to be level of exposure times the time
    duration of the exposure.

    I have used cell phones for years, worked in broadcast and radar


    facilities

    Quoted message said:

    were the transmitter outputs ranged from 50,000 watts to 1,000,000 watts


    ERP

    Quoted message said:

    (Effective Radiated Power).

    You cannot pay me enough to walk in front of active ground based
    radar antenna within a 1000 feet, but beyond that I would not worry. The
    Radar uses a narrow beamwidth antenna which concentrates the RF Energy


    into

    Quoted message said:

    a narrow field that rotates. I have no qualms about working under the
    antenna at a 50,000 watt broadcast station or the 1,000,000 watt ERP TV
    station while on the ground or nearby because the antennae are far enough
    away that my exposure is way below the safe limits.

    Oddly enough I am 52 and have outlived in absolute years two of Dad's
    siblings who died from cancer. One died at 45 and the other at 49. They


    did

    Quoted message said:

    not work around RF, X-Ray, ionizing or non-ionizing sources. I have had
    kidney stones several times and one could surmise that RF caused the


    stones

    Quoted message said:

    but then Dad had stones, he had two other brothers who had stones and his
    mother had stones. Sounds more like a genetic/dietary thing to me


    especially

    Quoted message said:

    since we grew up in the Carolina Stone Belt.

    By the way, if you are so convinced of your position why do you hide


    behind

    Quoted message said:

    a bogus e-mail address? Surely you know how to set up a temporary e-mail
    address on yahoo or msn?

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    BTW: I guess you don't need that door on your microwave anymore either.

    "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well if the energy from towers is so dangerous why are not all the ham


    radio

    Quoted message said:

    operators dead at a young age? They have a bunch of old fossils on the
    microphones. Hams are allowed to operate with 1500 watts output power


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lower frequencies which is in many cases more then a lot of commercial
    broadcast stations. When they use special antennas they can have


    effective

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    radiated powers of over 10,000 watts. Some hams even have thier towers


    right

    Quoted message said:

    next to thier bedrooms. Your average cell tower transmitter power is


    only

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    50 watts or so.

    By the way ELF Microwaves is an OXYMORON!
    ELF is extremely low frequency (approximately 10 KHz)while microwaves


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    frequencies above about 900 MHz. That is several orders of magnitude
    difference. And for what it is worth the studies indicate the link


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leukemia and high power electric lines doesn't exist.

    Gadzooks, if you look at the electric field produced by your


    housewiring

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    electric field density from it is much greater than any electric field


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    possibly may be exposed to from overhead utility lines.

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dclatestonmctowerarrays25may02.shtml

  18. Mxsmanic <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    whiplash said:

    Oddly enough I am 52 and have outlived in absolute years two of Dad's
    siblings who died from cancer. One died at 45 and the other at 49. They


    did

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    not work around RF, X-Ray, ionizing or non-ionizing sources. I have had
    kidney stones several times and one could surmise that RF caused the


    stones

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    but then Dad had stones, he had two other brothers who had stones and


    his

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    mother had stones.

    Do you have cataracts?

    My father seldom uses his cell phone, and has had no speeding tickets.
    I use my cell phone moderately, and have had two speeding tickets (but beat
    both).

    My sister and her son each use their cell phones incessantly, and each have
    had many speeding tickets. I believe there is a correlation:

    As many people have noted with regard to X-ray technicians, lead is an
    effective shielding agent. So, in response to exposure to cell phone
    radiation, the body starts absorbing lead from nutrients and the
    environment, lead that would ordinarily be eliminated. Lead is a very heavy
    element, and as a result it tends to collect in the lowest parts of the
    body - the feet. The lead-weighted feet then press down on the automobile
    accelerator pedal with greater force, causing the cell-phone-afflicted
    person to drive over the speed limit.

  19. So is there a correlation between kidney stones and speeding tickets?
    They are currently running a 2:1 ratio and I have had 6 speeding
    violations.
    Of course I have had so many X-rays everyone has lost count. The miltary
    does like to document everything, inside and out. Ouch, there goes the flank
    pain again, I think I need a couple of Dilaudid.

    "Robert E. Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Mxsmanic <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    whiplash said:

    Oddly enough I am 52 and have outlived in absolute years two of Dad's
    siblings who died from cancer. One died at 45 and the other at 49.


    They

    Quoted message said:

    did

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not work around RF, X-Ray, ionizing or non-ionizing sources. I have


    had

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kidney stones several times and one could surmise that RF caused the


    stones

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but then Dad had stones, he had two other brothers who had stones and


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mother had stones.

    Do you have cataracts?

    My father seldom uses his cell phone, and has had no speeding tickets.
    I use my cell phone moderately, and have had two speeding tickets (but


    beat

    Quoted message said:

    both).

    My sister and her son each use their cell phones incessantly, and each


    have

    Quoted message said:

    had many speeding tickets. I believe there is a correlation:

    As many people have noted with regard to X-ray technicians, lead is an
    effective shielding agent. So, in response to exposure to cell phone
    radiation, the body starts absorbing lead from nutrients and the
    environment, lead that would ordinarily be eliminated. Lead is a very


    heavy

    Quoted message said:

    element, and as a result it tends to collect in the lowest parts of the
    body - the feet. The lead-weighted feet then press down on the automobile
    accelerator pedal with greater force, causing the cell-phone-afflicted
    person to drive over the speed limit.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Gymmy Bob said:

    Thanx for the basic physics and math lessons. I didn't require.

    As a person involved with various electromagnetic generated types of fields
    you sound knowledgable, at least in the elementary physics of the beast.
    This basic knowledge should cause you to understand the dangers of
    electromagnetic radiation in some situations and know it should not be made
    light of like some of the self proclaimed experts shooting their mouths off,
    do here. The ridiculling of a cautious person only shows immaturity, as far
    as the safety aspects go and my comments were made to exemplify those
    ridiculous comments.

    You should also know thet RF energy and Xray energy are exactly the same
    energy exept for frequency and radiate in exactly the same way unless
    controlled. I think you studied this in your basic parallelling radiography
    technique studies in your first year of training.

    So's light. So be sure to stay in totally dark rooms.

    You can't be too careful.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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