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  1. I'm more of a 'Utility' that 'Recreational' cyclists, but that does mean
    I'up at crack of dawn (or before) and cycle in all weathers some 10+
    miles each day.

    This morning my 7 speed Nexus hub was reluctant to go into lower gears
    once I'd been in a high one.
    This ain't the first time I've so suffered on very cold mornings, but it
    is first time this year.

    I think it is due to fricton in the cable run, due to buildup of grot
    and moisture.
    What lubricant, if any, do others use in such cables?
    Should I be finding the time to replace such cables each Autumn?

    It is a real pain to set off from the lights, or at a mini r'about and
    discover you are in second highest instead of the lowest gear!

    A couple of years ago the cable to the hub brake became so frozen that
    after an application I had to get off bike and bang lever on hub with a
    spanner as cable wouldn't release it!

    And it wasn't even cold enough to freeze my beard this morning!

    (I gather neither Napolean nor [censored] got to Moscow because their
    machinery/guns wouldn't work in the cold)

    Jim Chisholm

  2. "J. Chisholm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm more of a 'Utility' that 'Recreational' cyclists, but that does mean
    I'up at crack of dawn (or before) and cycle in all weathers some 10+ miles
    each day.

    This morning my 7 speed Nexus hub was reluctant to go into lower gears
    once I'd been in a high one.
    This ain't the first time I've so suffered on very cold mornings, but it
    is first time this year.

    I think it is due to fricton in the cable run, due to buildup of grot and
    moisture.
    What lubricant, if any, do others use in such cables?
    Should I be finding the time to replace such cables each Autumn?

    Cables should get replaced when they need replacing. I don't generally
    lubricate cables heavily, but I also run full length outers and tend not to
    ride when it's absolutely perishing. I'd use something like 5w30 motor oil
    or 3 in 1 as it'll stay thin at low temperatures.

  3. Doki said:

    Cables should get replaced when they need replacing. I don't generally
    lubricate cables heavily, but I also run full length outers and tend not
    to ride when it's absolutely perishing. I'd use something like 5w30
    motor oil or 3 in 1 as it'll stay thin at low temperatures.

    Note that many cables these days are pre-lubricated with special stuff,
    and may not take kindly to having ordinary oil dripped in there with it.
    Try it and see, obviously, you have nothing to lose if it was already
    stuffed, but it may be time for a new one.

    -dan

  4. In message <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    writes

    Quoted message said:
    Doki said:

    Cables should get replaced when they need replacing. I don't
    generally lubricate cables heavily, but I also run full length outers
    and tend not to ride when it's absolutely perishing. I'd use
    something like 5w30 motor oil or 3 in 1 as it'll stay thin at low
    temperatures.

    Note that many cables these days are pre-lubricated with special stuff,
    and may not take kindly to having ordinary oil dripped in there with
    it. Try it and see, obviously, you have nothing to lose if it was
    already stuffed, but it may be time for a new one.


    I use the "dry" teflon lubricant. Its very thin and mobile and works its
    way down if you carefully dribble it in from the top. Its useful on long
    Brompton cables.

    --
    bob

  5. J. Chisholm said:

    Should I be finding the time to replace such cables each Autumn?

    I replaced my front brake cable (inner and outer) last night, after it
    froze for the third time this winter. The difference it made to the
    feel and responsiveness of the brake and to my stopping power was
    incredible (helped, no doubt, by the new front brake that I installed at
    the weekend).

    The old cable was sopping wet when I pulled it out. I can only think
    that the water got in during the Exmouth Exodus in June and hasn't been
    able to get out again.

    I know you were asking about gear cables, but cables is cables. If
    you're suffering at all with cable sticking, and especially cable
    freezing, I don't think you'll regret spending a few quid and half an
    hour replacing both the inner and the outer (not much point just
    replacing the inner, if the outer is full of [censored]).

    YMMV, but doing it every Autumn might be overkill. Although this was
    the 4th time I've changed the inner cable on this bike, the outer had
    been on there since I bought the bike 7 years ago. It's been fine until
    the last few months.

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  6. J. Chisholm said:

    (I gather neither Napolean nor [censored] got to Moscow because their
    machinery/guns wouldn't work in the cold)

    I thought it was buttons in Napolean's case. The tin buttons on their
    uniforms turned to weak, powdery grey tin due to the cold hence they
    were all running around starkers (and once you do that, other bits
    quickly stop working thanks to the cold).

    Some, or all, of the above may of course be nonsense/urban legend or
    other such havers.

    Graeme

  7. Graeme Dods said:
    J. Chisholm said:

    (I gather neither Napolean nor [censored] got to Moscow because their
    machinery/guns wouldn't work in the cold)

    I thought it was buttons in Napolean's case. The tin buttons on their
    uniforms turned to weak, powdery grey tin due to the cold hence they
    were all running around starkers (and once you do that, other bits
    quickly stop working thanks to the cold).


    So the parts of the usual rape and pilage would be difficult (;-)?

    Jim Chisholm

  8. Graeme Dods said:
    J. Chisholm said:

    (I gather neither Napolean nor [censored] got to Moscow because their
    machinery/guns wouldn't work in the cold)

    I thought it was buttons in Napolean's case. The tin buttons on their
    uniforms turned to weak, powdery grey tin due to the cold hence they
    were all running around starkers (and once you do that, other bits
    quickly stop working thanks to the cold).

    Some, or all, of the above may of course be nonsense/urban legend or
    other such havers.

    Graeme

    Well apart from anything else Napoleon (and most of his army) did get
    to Moscow. It was the getting back again that proved problematic...

    Napoleon's guns would have worked in the cold, not having the same
    problems of fuel turning to jelly that the german army did.

    Dave

    Dave

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