Cavities Double After Fluoridation

Disgusting usage of statistics! Absoulutely twisted usage of logic applied
to a prejudiced outcome.

"NYSCOF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A new study reveals pre-school children's tooth decay rates doubled after
fluoridation became Kentucky law.

In 1987, 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities. That number

increased

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to 47% in 2001, according to the July/August 2003 journal, "Pediatric
Dentistry."(1)

Over 96% of Kentucky water systems add fluoride since a 1977 Kentucky law
compelled water suppliers serving over 1,500 individuals to fluoridate,

aimed

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to reduce tooth decay by up to 60%(2)(3). Fluoride supplements are

prescribed

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to children without fluoridated water(3).

But cavities didn't decline at all. In fact, 57% of Kentucky third- and
sixth-graders also developed tooth decay.

"...untreated decay and caries experience have increased since the state's

1987

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survey. The state's levels also appear to be much worse than national

levels

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for these same indices," concludes authors Hardison et al., summarizing

"The

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2001 Kentucky Children's Oral Health Survey..."

It turns out, these children need dentists more than fluoride. Forty-three
percent of preschoolers suffered with festering teeth. "There are a lot of
places, Appalachia being one, where kids do not always get the dental care

that

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they need," said Jim Cecil, administrator of Oral Health Programs for the
Kentucky Department of Public Health in an AP wire story(4). "Oral disease

is

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reaching a crisis level for children across the country and here in

Kentucky,"

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he said.

A Kentucky dentist "shocked by a dramatic increase in the dental decay

rate"

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found poor diet to be the culprit(5).

Besides water company expenses for fluoridation equipment, chemicals,

housing,

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etc, surveillance, alone, cost Kentucky $350,000 yearly(2).

A reporter recently freely entered a Pennsylvania water treatment plant,
unwatched for twenty minutes with toxic concentrations of fluoride

chemicals

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unguarded(6). Fluoride is odorless and tasteless. An Alaskan man died when

his

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community water supplier accidentally poured in too much fluoride(7).

"We must remove all fluoride chemicals from water plants before a disaster
occurs. Obviously fluoridation isn't even reducing tooth decay. So why

risk an

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incident?" says lawyer Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition

Opposed

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to Fluoridation.

Silicofluorides, used by over 91% of U.S. fluoridating communities are

linked

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to children's higher blood-lead levels which, in turn, is linked to higher
rates of tooth decay.(8)

Fluoride at doses slightly above dentists' recommendations can also cause
cavities, according to Burt, Eklund, et al, in the dental textbook,

"Dentist,

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Dental Practice, and the Community." (9)

Cavity crises occur in many fluoridated cities:
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof2/_pgg5.php3

More accidents: http://www.fluoridealert.org/accidents.htm

References

(1) Pediatric Dentistry 2003 Jul-Aug;25(4):365-72

The 2001 Kentucky Childrens Oral Health Survey: findings for children ages

24

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to 59 months and their caregivers.

Hardison JD, Cecil JC, White JA, Manz M, Mullins MR, Ferretti GA.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_
uids=13678102&dopt=Abstract

(2) Dental Public Health Activities & Practices, Oral Health Program,

Kentucky

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Department of Health

http://www.astdd.org/bestpractices/pdf/DES20001KYfluoridationsurveillance.pd
f

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(3) "Kentucky's A Leader in Water Fluoridation; Celebrates National

Children's

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Dental Health Month," February 6, 2003

http://chs.ky.gov/chs/news/newsreleases/2003/nr020603.doc

(4)The Associated Press
Monday 26 November 2001
"Dental Clinic Helps Rural Children"
http://www.fluoridealert.org/news/734.html

(5) "Are we failing in our public health mission?" by Sue Feeley

http://kdhc.org/healthcamp.htm

(6) Pittsburgh Tribune Review, "Chemical Plants Still Vulnerable," by Carl
Prine, November 16, 2003

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/news/p_49388.html

(7) New England Journal of Medicine 1994 Jan 13, "Acute fluoride poisoning

from

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a public water system,"
Gessner BD, Beller M, Middaugh JP, Whitford GM

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_
uids=8259189&dopt=Abstract

(8)
http://www.enn.com/direct/display-release.asp?objid=D1D1364E000000F3D38279
C8E77A5E55

(9)
http://www.enn.com/direct/display-release.asp?objid=D1D1364E000000F3B58DC8
CBA01A092E

Web site:

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

"NYSCOF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A new study reveals pre-school children's tooth decay rates doubled after
fluoridation became Kentucky law.

In 1987, 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities. That number

increased

Quoted message said:

to 47% in 2001, according to the July/August 2003 journal, "Pediatric
Dentistry."(1)

Over 96% of Kentucky water systems add fluoride since a 1977 Kentucky law
compelled water suppliers serving over 1,500 individuals to fluoridate,

aimed

Quoted message said:

to reduce tooth decay by up to 60%(2)(3). Fluoride supplements are

prescribed

Quoted message said:

to children without fluoridated water(3).

But cavities didn't decline at all. In fact, 57% of Kentucky third- and
sixth-graders also developed tooth decay.

"...untreated decay and caries experience have increased since the state's

1987

Quoted message said:

survey. The state's levels also appear to be much worse than national

levels

Quoted message said:

for these same indices," concludes authors Hardison et al., summarizing

"The

Quoted message said:

2001 Kentucky Children's Oral Health Survey..."

Not a big surprise, considering the fluoride additive used in water
treatment plants is an industrial waste product from the fertilizer and/or
aluminum industry. It's also the active ingredient in many rat poisons. But
the gov'mint says it's good for ya, so it must be true.

I believe the real cause of tooth decay is primarily a magnesium deficiency,
caused by the over-consumption of refined sugar. Magnesium is used up
metabolizing sugar, which provides nothing to assist in its own digestion.
Without adequate magnesium, the body can't utilize calcium effectively,
leading to internally weakened teeth and bones (osteoporosis). Tooth decay
is the first sign of osteoporosis.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Gymmy Bob said:

Disgusting usage of statistics! Absoulutely twisted usage of logic applied
to a prejudiced outcome.

For once, I actually agree with Gym Bob. The study, at least as
presented here, does not show what NYSCOF claims it does. Too much
is left out.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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"NYSCOF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A new study reveals pre-school children's tooth decay rates doubled after
fluoridation became Kentucky law.

In 1987, 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities. That number

increased

Quoted message said:

to 47% in 2001, according to the July/August 2003 journal, "Pediatric
Dentistry."(1)

Over 96% of Kentucky water systems add fluoride since a 1977 Kentucky law
compelled water suppliers serving over 1,500 individuals to fluoridate,

aimed

Quoted message said:

to reduce tooth decay by up to 60%(2)(3). Fluoride supplements are

prescribed

Quoted message said:

to children without fluoridated water(3).

But cavities didn't decline at all. In fact, 57% of Kentucky third- and
sixth-graders also developed tooth decay.

"...untreated decay and caries experience have increased since the state's

1987

Quoted message said:

survey. The state's levels also appear to be much worse than national

levels

Quoted message said:

for these same indices," concludes authors Hardison et al., summarizing

"The

Quoted message said:

2001 Kentucky Children's Oral Health Survey..."

It turns out, these children need dentists more than fluoride. Forty-three
percent of preschoolers suffered with festering teeth. "There are a lot of
places, Appalachia being one, where kids do not always get the dental care

that

Quoted message said:

they need," said Jim Cecil, administrator of Oral Health Programs for the
Kentucky Department of Public Health in an AP wire story(4). "Oral disease

is

Quoted message said:

reaching a crisis level for children across the country and here in

Kentucky,"

Quoted message said:

he said.

A Kentucky dentist "shocked by a dramatic increase in the dental decay

rate"

Quoted message said:

found poor diet to be the culprit(5).

Besides water company expenses for fluoridation equipment, chemicals,

housing,

Quoted message said:

etc, surveillance, alone, cost Kentucky $350,000 yearly(2).

A reporter recently freely entered a Pennsylvania water treatment plant,
unwatched for twenty minutes with toxic concentrations of fluoride

chemicals

Quoted message said:

unguarded(6). Fluoride is odorless and tasteless. An Alaskan man died when

his

Quoted message said:

community water supplier accidentally poured in too much fluoride(7).

"We must remove all fluoride chemicals from water plants before a disaster
occurs. Obviously fluoridation isn't even reducing tooth decay. So why

risk an

Quoted message said:

incident?" says lawyer Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition

Opposed

Quoted message said:

to Fluoridation.

Silicofluorides, used by over 91% of U.S. fluoridating communities are

linked

Quoted message said:

to children's higher blood-lead levels which, in turn, is linked to higher
rates of tooth decay.(8)

Fluoride at doses slightly above dentists' recommendations can also cause
cavities, according to Burt, Eklund, et al, in the dental textbook,

"Dentist,

Quoted message said:

Dental Practice, and the Community." (9)

Cavity crises occur in many fluoridated cities:
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof2/_pgg5.php3

More accidents: http://www.fluoridealert.org/accidents.htm

References

(1) Pediatric Dentistry 2003 Jul-Aug;25(4):365-72

The 2001 Kentucky Childrens Oral Health Survey: findings for children ages

24

Quoted message said:

to 59 months and their caregivers.

Hardison JD, Cecil JC, White JA, Manz M, Mullins MR, Ferretti GA.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_
uids=13678102&dopt=Abstract

(2) Dental Public Health Activities & Practices, Oral Health Program,

Kentucky

Quoted message said:

Department of Health

http://www.astdd.org/bestpractices/pdf/DES20001KYfluoridationsurveillance.pd
f

Quoted message said:

(3) "Kentucky's A Leader in Water Fluoridation; Celebrates National

Children's

Quoted message said:

Dental Health Month," February 6, 2003

http://chs.ky.gov/chs/news/newsreleases/2003/nr020603.doc

(4)The Associated Press
Monday 26 November 2001
"Dental Clinic Helps Rural Children"
http://www.fluoridealert.org/news/734.html

(5) "Are we failing in our public health mission?" by Sue Feeley

http://kdhc.org/healthcamp.htm

(6) Pittsburgh Tribune Review, "Chemical Plants Still Vulnerable," by Carl
Prine, November 16, 2003

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/news/p_49388.html

(7) New England Journal of Medicine 1994 Jan 13, "Acute fluoride poisoning

from

Quoted message said:

a public water system,"
Gessner BD, Beller M, Middaugh JP, Whitford GM

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_
uids=8259189&dopt=Abstract

(8)
http://www.enn.com/direct/display-release.asp?objid=D1D1364E000000F3D38279
C8E77A5E55

(9)
http://www.enn.com/direct/display-release.asp?objid=D1D1364E000000F3B58DC8
CBA01A092E

Web site:

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

ƒ®Èé RådicaL said:

"NYSCOF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A new study reveals pre-school children's tooth decay rates doubled after
fluoridation became Kentucky law.

In 1987, 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities. That number

increased

Quoted message said:

to 47% in 2001, according to the July/August 2003 journal, "Pediatric
Dentistry."(1)

Over 96% of Kentucky water systems add fluoride since a 1977 Kentucky law
compelled water suppliers serving over 1,500 individuals to fluoridate,

aimed

Quoted message said:

to reduce tooth decay by up to 60%(2)(3). Fluoride supplements are

prescribed

Quoted message said:

to children without fluoridated water(3).

But cavities didn't decline at all. In fact, 57% of Kentucky third- and
sixth-graders also developed tooth decay.

"...untreated decay and caries experience have increased since the state's

1987

Quoted message said:

survey. The state's levels also appear to be much worse than national

levels

Quoted message said:

for these same indices," concludes authors Hardison et al., summarizing

"The

Quoted message said:

2001 Kentucky Children's Oral Health Survey..."

Not a big surprise, considering the fluoride additive used in water
treatment plants is an industrial waste product from the fertilizer and/or
aluminum industry. It's also the active ingredient in many rat poisons. But
the gov'mint says it's good for ya, so it must be true.

I believe the real cause of tooth decay is primarily a magnesium deficiency,
caused by the over-consumption of refined sugar. Magnesium is used up
metabolizing sugar, which provides nothing to assist in its own digestion.
Without adequate magnesium, the body can't utilize calcium effectively,
leading to internally weakened teeth and bones (osteoporosis). Tooth decay
is the first sign of osteoporosis.

Any studies to confirm this theory ?

WB
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Disgusting usage of statistics! Absoulutely twisted usage of logic applied

Quoted message said:

to a prejudiced outcome.

For once, I actually agree with Gym Bob. The study, at least as
presented here, does not show what NYSCOF claims it does. Too much is left

out.

What's left out. Fluoridation started in 1977 promising to reduce tooth decay
by up to 60%. Don't have statistics for 1977 but in 1987 23% of preschool
children have cavities. In 2001 double that amount have cavities. We didn't
make this up, the Kentucky Depatment of Health provides the statistics.

If you are looking for confounding factors, tooth decay statistics seldom if
ever factor in variables when touting fluoridation.

However, if you look at the references, you'll see one Kentucky dentists did
her own investigation and was satisfied that Kentucky children were
sufficiently fluoridated and that junk food was the source of their decay.

Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential to health. Lack of fluoride does
not cause cavities and, obviously, poor diet cannot be fixed by fluoride. So
why are you spending your money and mine putting fluoride into everyone's water
supply.

Unfortunately, the *belief* that ingested fluoride reduces tooth decay is what
perpetuates the practice of fluoridation which is not based on any sound
science at all.

New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof
http://tinyurl.com/ad9k

Fluoride Action Network
http://www.fluoridealert.org

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NYSCOF said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Disgusting usage of statistics! Absoulutely twisted usage of logic applied
to a prejudiced outcome.

For once, I actually agree with Gym Bob. The study, at least as
presented here, does not show what NYSCOF claims it does. Too much is left

out.

What's left out. Fluoridation started in 1977 promising to reduce tooth decay
by up to 60%. Don't have statistics for 1977 but in 1987 23% of preschool
children have cavities. In 2001 double that amount have cavities. We didn't
make this up, the Kentucky Depatment of Health provides the statistics.

If you are looking for confounding factors, tooth decay statistics seldom if
ever factor in variables when touting fluoridation.

However, if you look at the references, you'll see one Kentucky dentists did
her own investigation and was satisfied that Kentucky children were
sufficiently fluoridated and that junk food was the source of their decay.

That's what I was assuming, actually. The increasingly sugared
American diet is no surprise, particularly in poorer communities.

The interesting question, however, is what would have happened had
their been no fluoridation change.

Quoted message said:

Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential to health. Lack of
fluoride does not cause cavities and, obviously, poor diet cannot be
fixed by fluoride. So why are you spending your money and mine
putting fluoride into everyone's water supply.

Hey, up yours, NYSCOF. I'm not doing anything of the sort.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Quoted message said:

That's what I was assuming, actually. The increasingly sugared
American diet is no surprise, particularly in poorer communities.

The interesting question, however, is what would have happened had
their been no fluoridation change.

After over 50 years of water fluoridation, many children in Newburgh,
New York have more cavities and more fluoride-caused discolored teeth
(dental fluorosis) than children in never-fluoridated Kingston, New
York, according to a New York State Department of Health study.
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof/_pgg2.php3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential to health. Lack of
fluoride does not cause cavities and, obviously, poor diet cannot be
fixed by fluoride. So why are you spending your money and mine
putting fluoride into everyone's water supply.

Hey, up yours, NYSCOF. I'm not doing anything of the sort.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

NYSCOF
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nysocf