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  1. Cause Of (Correctly Defined) Schizophrenia

    13 December 2003

    I have observed, that a very clearly established and also very easy
    to understand cause of Schizophrenia, is:

    'Craving for being "loved" or "desired" by a Criminal Mind.'

    In reality, that means:

    A craving for feeling and experiencing the sensation
    and lies and Energies of the Delusion - provided by
    a Criminal Mind - of "being loved by him,"

    as you have seen people who craved to be
    "loved" or "approved of," by [censored].

    And as you know, a Criminal Mind has only a most
    intense but hidden Hate for anyone,

    and as you know, the only thing a Criminal Mind
    "desires" from those he is pretending to "love," is
    to obtain and to control the creation of Life Energy,

    from the person who is 'craving for his "love"
    or for his "approval,"

    from the person who is craving to feel or
    experience the lies that are given to him by
    the Criminal Mind, to experience these as
    "truth," for the person who is craving to feel
    the sensations that the Criminal Mind
    provides, which "prove" the lies to be "not
    lies but truth."

    He provides that Delusion for his victims, who are
    desirous to feel that "he is a good person," by
    providing that Delusion for them:

    "There is no Hate from him" for them, "there
    is no Ugliness from him" for them, "it feels
    great to love him and be admired by him," and
    so on.

    This is what the victims crave to feel, crave
    to experience as "true," by means of the
    Delusion that the Criminal Mind projects at
    them.

    And physical distance, as you certainly
    have found out, is not an important
    factor, because Life Energy (by which
    the Delusion is created and felt) is
    projected across any distance, and that
    instantly.

    Maybe this is the cause of all Schizophrenia, the workable cause,
    that gives you a handle to return a person to being himself,

    even if only long enough to get him to look at and to describe
    with enough honesty those compulsive feelings he craves from
    the Criminal Mind.

    You get the victim to look at the Criminal Mind who creates the
    Delusion(s) craved, by which the Criminal Mind causes him to suffer
    Schizophrenia.

    After all, that feeling (projecting that Energy at his
    intended victims) is the main tool that is used by any
    Criminal Mind, to acquire and to control his victims.

    Criminal Minds will not change, they will not stop their activity,
    and they can not be changed - they are eternal Criminally Minded
    souls, as you can read elsewhere - but you can change his victims

    if these victims are honest and desirous enough to look at how
    a Criminal Mind keeps them trapped in Hell, and, if these
    victims are desirous to get out of that Hell,

    much like a Drug Addict has to have the desire to get
    free of Drugs, and be capable of accepting your help.

    Of course, Criminal Minds do not like to hear anything of this from
    me, or from you, and they do not want their victims to know about
    anything of this, because it makes their victims less controlled,
    or even free of them:

    Spiritual Slavery is - so to speak - being abolished by me.

    Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
    human rights philosopher and poet

    'God gave Solomon wisdom
    and very great insight,
    and a breadth of understanding
    as measureless
    as the sand on the seashore.'

    1 Kings 4:29
    __________
    References:

    - 'Understanding Eternal Criminally Minded Individuals'
    (24 November 2003) {HRI 20031124}
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0311240851.34352064%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    - 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind (Version 2.0)
    - {HRI 20021018-V2.0}' (18 October 2002 - V2.0 on 10 October 2003)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0310101357.3ecabe19%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    - 'Fine Particle Physics To Understand Persistent, Violent
    Psychotics' (27 Feb 2003)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0302271444.1b9b5a4f%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    This adds to and confirms the correct definition, as stated in

    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Definition Of Schizophrenic
    25 November 2002

    Definition of Schizophrenic:

    Someone who can not choose, or does not want to choose,
    between being (spiritually of course) with good people or
    (spiritually of course) being with an evil individual or
    individuals.

    When he (spiritually of course) is connected to good people, he is
    normal and rational.

    When he is (spiritually of course) connected to an evil individual or
    to evil individuals, then he is highly irrational, and his thoughts
    are guided by Hate and destruction or by ridicule for others:
    He has become a different personality.

    This swaps back and forth as his present (of course spiritual)
    alliance dictates, and it makes it seem, as if he has a split
    personality - one time good and rational, the other time irrational
    and destructive - hence the original term Schizophrenic, if used and
    defined correctly.

    This definition can be widely used, not to accuse, not to restrain,
    never to drug, but to remedy any person who himself is not evil but
    who switches back from being good to being evil according to his
    (spiritual, of course) alliance to, or (spiritual of course)
    domination by, an evil individual.

    (End Definition)

    As you see, the definition can be applied to understand and to cure
    the condition. This is the nature of any correct definition - a
    nature or quality of definition that is well known in the field of
    engineering physics, from which I came.

    And that is the way I define terms and concepts.*

    (For the next paragraph, which continues about correct
    definitions and about the above-mentioned one, you need the
    definition of Evil🙂

    Evil is defined as the intention and activity of destroying
    life and awareness of life.**

    All psychological and psychiatric conditions trace back to a refusal
    or inability to face evil.

    The refusal to face and state and hold a viewpoint on evil - a
    refusal that again results from someone's intention to hide evil -
    has made any psychological and any psychiatric term always
    impossible to define or use towards really relieving a condition.

    Certain people won't understand the above sentence, some will
    make sure that others won't understand the above sentence.
    (If you refuse to face evil, you won't understand the
    paragraph.)

    And so the term 'Schizophrenic' was used nowadays (let's say at the
    end of the 20th century) even to describe the total opposite, yes,
    to describe a person who IS aware of evil and who DOES choose
    between good and evil and thereby keeps his sanity...****

    Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
    human rights philosopher and poet

    Footnotes:

    (...)

    Copyright 2002, 2003 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
    and poet
    This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
    anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)
    who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to
    others who might be able to learn from it.
    None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
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  2. Through the decades, there have been various theories. In the 50's and 60's
    the schizophregenic mother was a current theory. A person becomes so
    attached to his mother, who behaves unreasonably toward him, and he develops
    a theory that if he defies her he will kill her (as when she fakes heart
    attacks) or that if he defies her she will kill him.

    In the 70's and 80's that shifted to the double-bind theory, in which a
    person is placed in a logical paradox, and the only way to escape it was to
    get crazy.

    Since that time it has become more and more apparent that schizophrenia is a
    physical brain disease. In various ways the brains of schizophrenics have
    been observed to different from normal brains.

    A current theory is in regard to the mother catching a viral infection
    during pregnancy, though which disease varies from one study to another.

    "Koos Nolst Trenite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cause Of (Correctly Defined) Schizophrenia

    13 December 2003

    I have observed, that a very clearly established and also very easy
    to understand cause of Schizophrenia, is:

    'Craving for being "loved" or "desired" by a Criminal Mind.'

    In reality, that means:

    A craving for feeling and experiencing the sensation
    and lies and Energies of the Delusion - provided by
    a Criminal Mind - of "being loved by him,"

    as you have seen people who craved to be
    "loved" or "approved of," by [censored].

    And as you know, a Criminal Mind has only a most
    intense but hidden Hate for anyone,

    and as you know, the only thing a Criminal Mind
    "desires" from those he is pretending to "love," is
    to obtain and to control the creation of Life Energy,

    from the person who is 'craving for his "love"
    or for his "approval,"

    from the person who is craving to feel or
    experience the lies that are given to him by
    the Criminal Mind, to experience these as
    "truth," for the person who is craving to feel
    the sensations that the Criminal Mind
    provides, which "prove" the lies to be "not
    lies but truth."

    He provides that Delusion for his victims, who are
    desirous to feel that "he is a good person," by
    providing that Delusion for them:

    "There is no Hate from him" for them, "there
    is no Ugliness from him" for them, "it feels
    great to love him and be admired by him," and
    so on.

    This is what the victims crave to feel, crave
    to experience as "true," by means of the
    Delusion that the Criminal Mind projects at
    them.

    And physical distance, as you certainly
    have found out, is not an important
    factor, because Life Energy (by which
    the Delusion is created and felt) is
    projected across any distance, and that
    instantly.

    Maybe this is the cause of all Schizophrenia, the workable cause,
    that gives you a handle to return a person to being himself,

    even if only long enough to get him to look at and to describe
    with enough honesty those compulsive feelings he craves from
    the Criminal Mind.

    You get the victim to look at the Criminal Mind who creates the
    Delusion(s) craved, by which the Criminal Mind causes him to suffer
    Schizophrenia.

    After all, that feeling (projecting that Energy at his
    intended victims) is the main tool that is used by any
    Criminal Mind, to acquire and to control his victims.

    Criminal Minds will not change, they will not stop their activity,
    and they can not be changed - they are eternal Criminally Minded
    souls, as you can read elsewhere - but you can change his victims

    if these victims are honest and desirous enough to look at how
    a Criminal Mind keeps them trapped in Hell, and, if these
    victims are desirous to get out of that Hell,

    much like a Drug Addict has to have the desire to get
    free of Drugs, and be capable of accepting your help.

    Of course, Criminal Minds do not like to hear anything of this from
    me, or from you, and they do not want their victims to know about
    anything of this, because it makes their victims less controlled,
    or even free of them:

    Spiritual Slavery is - so to speak - being abolished by me.

    Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
    human rights philosopher and poet

    'God gave Solomon wisdom
    and very great insight,
    and a breadth of understanding
    as measureless
    as the sand on the seashore.'

    1 Kings 4:29
    __________
    References:

    - 'Understanding Eternal Criminally Minded Individuals'
    (24 November 2003) {HRI 20031124}


    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0311240851.34352064%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    Quoted message said:


    - 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind (Version 2.0)
    - {HRI 20021018-V2.0}' (18 October 2002 - V2.0 on 10 October 2003)


    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0310101357.3ecabe19%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    Quoted message said:


    - 'Fine Particle Physics To Understand Persistent, Violent
    Psychotics' (27 Feb 2003)


    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0302271444.1b9b5a4f%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    Quoted message said:

    This adds to and confirms the correct definition, as stated in

    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Definition Of Schizophrenic
    25 November 2002

    Definition of Schizophrenic:

    Someone who can not choose, or does not want to choose,
    between being (spiritually of course) with good people or
    (spiritually of course) being with an evil individual or
    individuals.

    When he (spiritually of course) is connected to good people, he is
    normal and rational.

    When he is (spiritually of course) connected to an evil individual or
    to evil individuals, then he is highly irrational, and his thoughts
    are guided by Hate and destruction or by ridicule for others:
    He has become a different personality.

    This swaps back and forth as his present (of course spiritual)
    alliance dictates, and it makes it seem, as if he has a split
    personality - one time good and rational, the other time irrational
    and destructive - hence the original term Schizophrenic, if used and
    defined correctly.

    This definition can be widely used, not to accuse, not to restrain,
    never to drug, but to remedy any person who himself is not evil but
    who switches back from being good to being evil according to his
    (spiritual, of course) alliance to, or (spiritual of course)
    domination by, an evil individual.

    (End Definition)

    As you see, the definition can be applied to understand and to cure
    the condition. This is the nature of any correct definition - a
    nature or quality of definition that is well known in the field of
    engineering physics, from which I came.

    And that is the way I define terms and concepts.*

    (For the next paragraph, which continues about correct
    definitions and about the above-mentioned one, you need the
    definition of Evil🙂

    Evil is defined as the intention and activity of destroying
    life and awareness of life.**

    All psychological and psychiatric conditions trace back to a refusal
    or inability to face evil.

    The refusal to face and state and hold a viewpoint on evil - a
    refusal that again results from someone's intention to hide evil -
    has made any psychological and any psychiatric term always
    impossible to define or use towards really relieving a condition.

    Certain people won't understand the above sentence, some will
    make sure that others won't understand the above sentence.
    (If you refuse to face evil, you won't understand the
    paragraph.)

    And so the term 'Schizophrenic' was used nowadays (let's say at the
    end of the 20th century) even to describe the total opposite, yes,
    to describe a person who IS aware of evil and who DOES choose
    between good and evil and thereby keeps his sanity...****

    Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
    human rights philosopher and poet

    Footnotes:

    (...)

    Copyright 2002, 2003 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
    and poet
    This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
    anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)
    who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to
    others who might be able to learn from it.
    None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
    or religious agenda, but only to educate and encourage people
    to judge un-dominated and for themselves about any organizations
    or individuals.
    Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
    PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
    (address unreadable for internet robots
    - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)

  3. 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'

    (Version 2.0) - {HRI 20021018-V2.0}'
    (18 October 2002 - V2.0 on 10 October 2003)

    can be read at

    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0310101357.3ecabe19%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

  4. Leonardo Been said:

    'The Mafia Code Against Mankind'

    (Version 2.0) - {HRI 20021018-V2.0}'
    (18 October 2002 - V2.0 on 10 October 2003)

    can be read at

    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0310101357.3ecabe19%40posting.google.com&output=gplain


    That article is [censored].
    You know nothing of the Mafiosa
    There is a dead fish on 07K6P4

  5. [email hidden] (Koos Nolst Trenite) wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Cause Of (Correctly Defined) Schizophrenia

    13 December 2003

    I have observed, that a very clearly established and also very easy
    to understand cause of Schizophrenia, is:

    'Craving for being "loved" or "desired" by a Criminal Mind.'

    I have observed, that KOOK Nolst Trenite is an idiot.

  6. Some 'bipeds'* have not only been feathered, but have also been
    tarred.

    Their showing this to you, gives me the opportunity,
    to refer to

    * 'Fine Particle Physics To Understand Persistent, Violent Psychotics'
    (27 Feb 2003)
    ______________
    to be found at:
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0302271444.1b9b5a4f%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    With Mirth in this holiday season of Myrrh and Merry,

    I remain as always,

    Leonardo etc. Been
    'It is of no use walking
    anywhere to preach
    unless our walking
    is our preaching.'

    Saint Francis of Assisi
    ___________________________
    for light and merry reading:

    - 'The Lapwing's Eggs' (12 September 2001)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0311241236.757a8452%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    Copyright 2003 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
    and poet
    This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
    anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)
    who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to
    others who might be able to learn from it.
    None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
    or religious agenda, but only to educate, and to encourage people
    to judge un-dominated and for themselves about any organizations
    or individuals.
    Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
    PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
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  7. What disgusts me about this is that Schizophrenics are referred to as
    a criminal type here.

    Some of our greatest thinkers, recently, in some research I read have
    concluded many geniuses all had schizophrenic tendencies a lot of the
    time, though privately. These names:

    Einstein
    Da Vinci
    Newton

    Now one must assume here Iam not calling all schizophreniacs geniuses
    with exceptional IQ. It has been remarked that some with low IQ, and
    the phenomena - "latent inhibition" cannot handle this mental disorder
    at all and descend into psychosis. Then again, that is not to say
    that I am concluding that people of low IQ cannot handle the disorder.

    Sometimes, we just have to accept people for who they are. Boxing
    people up is just plain wrong.

  8. Teaching To Read

    04 May 2003

    Though people can be taught to write what they want to say, teaching
    them to read is a wholly different matter, because

    reading involves the perception and understanding of what
    another being communicates to you.

    So maybe the first step in teaching to read, certainly the most basic
    thing to teach about it (but not to criminal minds*), is that

    reading is about perceiving (sensing) and (thereby then) under-
    standing another being

    - in this case, the person who wrote the words that you
    are reading.**

    In teaching someone to play a musical instrument, there is also a
    basic thing often omitted: That you want to produce a sound (a tone)
    you like to hear, and that you like others to hear, and that
    expresses emotion.***

    Leonardo etc. Been

    ___________
    Footnotes:

    * 'Detecting Criminal Minds By Their Intentional Omission Of Truth'
    (19 August 2002 - Version 1.2)
    http:[email hidden]&output=gplain

    ** Merely the tools, of an alphabet and a collection of words, do
    not necessarily then make a person able to read, even though he
    or she is believed, and is made to believe, to have acquired
    that skill.

    *** 'Writing Technique and Basics of Music - Feeling versus
    Intelligence' (1 July 2002)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209121401.405de354%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    'Genuine Art - Producing It, Recognizing it' (20 Dec 2002)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0212221504.60a0655c%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    ___________
    Reference:

    - 'If You Were Alive Now... in response to "If Bach Lived Today ..."'
    (2 May 2003)
    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0305020712.486f8ce3%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

    Copyright 2003 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
    and poet
    This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
    anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)
    who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to
    others who might be able to learn from it.
    None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
    or religious agenda, but only to educate, and to encourage people
    to judge un-dominated and for themselves about any organizations
    or individuals.
    Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
    PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
    (address unreadable for internet robots
    - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)

  9. Thank you for mentioning my name with these august thinkers.

  10. Schizophrenia is a tough topic, especially if someone you know might
    be schizophrenic. I have to take exception to suggestions up this
    thread about "the" cause of schizophrenia. Firstly, on pedagogical
    grounds: that any time you have just one hypothesis or model, that's a
    good sign you're going wrong.

    And secondly, there doesn't seem to be a single cause of
    schizophrenia. For a survey of the topic that looked good to me, see
    the January 2004 issue of Scientific American.

    Cheers -- Martha Adams

  11. [email hidden] (Koos Nolst Trenite) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A bunch of schizophrenic [censored].

    Before you waste a second of your time reading anything this loon or
    any of his/her/its reincarnations (Leonardo Been aka reincarnation of
    Leonardo DeVinci) writes, you should have a look at:

    http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite.htm

    SBH

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