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  1. Colin Blackburn said:


    On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:46:06 +0100, Mike K Smith <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When did Yorkshire annexe Weardale?

    I'm a Yorkshireman.

    Did they know that when they let you move into the dale?

  2. On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:18:22 +0100, Mike K Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Colin Blackburn said:


    On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:46:06 +0100, Mike K Smith <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When did Yorkshire annexe Weardale?

    I'm a Yorkshireman.

    Did they know that when they let you move into the dale?

    I live on a hill, they can't see me from the dale!

    Colin

  3. Quoted message said:

    Wales? New Zealand? Our Yorkshire sheep do this...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3938591.stm

    Excellent:
    "Several drivers have had to swerve to avoid hitting the animals and
    damaged their cars or been given a terrible shock."

    Heard some idiot wittering on about something similar on the radio a week
    or two ago. He hadn't realised that sheep sleeping in the middle of the
    road, leaping out from behind hedges and playing chicken with cars makes
    the road much safer for villagers - traffic is slowed and the worst drivers
    taken off the road. It also indirectly increases the intelligence of
    sheep.

  4. Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Gawnsoft
    <[email hidden]> breathed:

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:41:28 +0100, Pyromancer
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I tend to do this for any large bumps or areas of very rough surface,
    partly for comfort but also to reduce load on the bike, I'm assuming
    that bent legs on pedals and weight going through the BB is less of a
    strain overall than full upper body weight on saddle and thus straight
    through seat-stays.

    Quoted message said:

    It allows the system to do a lot of fast weight transfer from wheel to
    wheel, thus minimising transient shocks.

    If you sit on the saddle, less weight transfer is possible, and it
    takes longer.

    Thanks for that - so as I thought it is better for both me and the bike.

    In general, is it regarded as OK to stand on the pedals? Years ago, my
    father ran the bicycle hire shop at a holiday camp, and as well as
    normal bikes in all sizes, he also hired out "social cycles", which were
    effectively two bikes welded together into a four wheeled vehicle, with
    bench seats and a steering linkage between the forks. Sometimes people
    would ride these onto the beach, where the wheels sank into the soft
    sand. The (frequently overweight) hirers would then stand on the pedals
    to get more traction and frequently the bottom brackets would fail as a
    result. The "socials" were officially banned from the beach for this
    reason but it still happened occasionally.

    As a result I've always been unsure whether pedal-standing is a good
    idea or not. I do it when freewheeling over rough ground but try and
    avoid using it as a way of gaining extra power, preferring to change
    down and spin more instead.

    Were those old socials really made of cheese (this was 20 years ago!),
    or is this a risk with good bikes too? I ride a cheapish steel MTB.

    --
    - Pyromancer.
    - http://www.inkubus-sukkubus.co.uk <-- Pagan Gothic Rock!
    - http://www.littlematchgirl.co.uk <-- Electronic Metal!
    - http://www.revival.stormshadow.com <-- The Gothic Revival.

  5. Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Mike K
    Smith <[email hidden]> breathed:

    Quoted message said:

    Colin Blackburn wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wales? New Zealand? Our Yorkshire sheep do this...


    *Our Yorkshire sheep*?

    Quoted message said:

    When did Yorkshire annexe Weardale?
    To arms, citizens, and push the invaders back south of the A66!

    'Fraid the greater powers have already spoken, but you do get a choice.
    You can either be annexed by the People's Republic of Yorkshire and
    Lancashire, or become the 51st state of the Democratic Kingdom Of
    Scotland.

    You'll have to decide quickly though, we need to have the internal
    matters settled before building the new union border wall to keep the
    New Northern Alliance safe from those bloody southerners...

    :-)

    --
    - Pyromancer.
    - http://www.inkubus-sukkubus.co.uk <-- Pagan Gothic Rock!
    - http://www.littlematchgirl.co.uk <-- Electronic Metal!
    - http://www.revival.stormshadow.com <-- The Gothic Revival.

  6. Pyromancer said:


    Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Mike K
    Smith <[email hidden]> breathed:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When did Yorkshire annexe Weardale?
    To arms, citizens, and push the invaders back south of the A66!

    'Fraid the greater powers have already spoken, but you do get a choice.
    You can either be annexed by the People's Republic of Yorkshire and
    Lancashire, or become the 51st state of the Democratic Kingdom Of
    Scotland.

    You'll have to decide quickly though, we need to have the internal
    matters settled before building the new union border wall to keep the
    New Northern Alliance safe from those bloody southerners...


    [blushes slightly]
    Ummmm....
    It's my wife's family who are from Weardale, I'm from North Wales
    originally.
    We live in the midst of the southerners these days, though.
    I hope we'd still be allowed visiting rights when the revolution comes.

  7. Pyromancer wrote:
    ...........

    Quoted message said:

    As a result I've always been unsure whether pedal-standing is a good
    idea or not. I do it when freewheeling over rough ground but try and
    avoid using it as a way of gaining extra power, preferring to change
    down and spin more instead.

    Were those old socials really made of cheese (this was 20 years ago!),
    or is this a risk with good bikes too? I ride a cheapish steel MTB.

    Unless your bike is already broken, pedalling whilst stood up will not do
    it any harm. Bikes are designed for it. It's great for getting a quick
    boost of acceleration, or for an alternative method of climbing or just
    for relieving the backside for a bit.

    ~PB

  8. in message <[email hidden]>, Mike K Smith

    (') said:
    Colin Blackburn said:

    Wales? New Zealand? Our Yorkshire sheep do this...


    *Our Yorkshire sheep*?

    When did Yorkshire annexe Weardale?
    To arms, citizens, and push the invaders back south of the A66!

    Boot's on the other foot. Weardale's always been part of Northumberland.
    North of what? North of the Humber. Half those mouthy Yorkshiremen are
    actually northumbrians, just like you.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time.

  9. cattle grids are the work of the devil - especially the ones on winnats pass.

  10. Simon Brooke wrote:

    [About Weardale]

    Quoted message said:

    Boot's on the other foot. Weardale's always been part of Northumberland.
    North of what? North of the Humber. Half those mouthy Yorkshiremen are
    actually northumbrians, just like you.


    I would disagree that Weardale has always been part of Northumberland. Most
    of the territory between the Humber and the border did indeed fall within
    the jurisdiction of the Earls of Northumberland.

    However, following the death of Earl-Bishop Walcher at the hands of an
    angry mob in Gateshead in 1081, Weardale became part of the Palatinate of
    Durham, and was governed by the Prince-Bishop. The villages of Eastgate and
    Westgate mark the gates to the Prince-Bishop's hunting grounds.

    Anyway, it's my wife's family who live in Weardale. My own forebears were
    more likely to have been oppressed by the Earls of Chester in the 11th
    century.

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