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  1. Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.
    Thus its addition to wheat gluten and rice protein isolate.

    Steve

  2. Steve Pope said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.

    I can't parse this sentence. Help?

    Serene

  3. Serene-y the Meanie said:

    Steve Pope wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't parse this sentence. Help?

    The customers test the batches of gluten for protein content.
    Because melamine is a cheap nitrogen-containing substance
    of about the right molecular weight, and the testing is not
    that specific, it boosts the result of the test.

    So the belief is the melamine was deliberately added to boost
    profits.

    Steve

  4. Steve Pope said:
    Serene-y the Meanie said:

    Steve Pope wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't parse this sentence. Help?

    The customers test the batches of gluten for protein content.
    Because melamine is a cheap nitrogen-containing substance
    of about the right molecular weight, and the testing is not
    that specific, it boosts the result of the test.

    So the belief is the melamine was deliberately added to boost
    profits.

    But did they know it was poison?

    (I will go google this myself. I'm just boggled, is all.)

    Serene

  5. Serene-y the Meanie said:
    Steve Pope said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.

    I can't parse this sentence. Help?

    Serene

    The Chinese wheat gluten (and rice protein, and one other product that I
    can't remember) company spiked low-quality products with melamine
    because it's cheap and it gives a false-positive when they test for
    protein -- it makes the low-grade gluten test like high-grade.

    Allegedly.

    Best regards,
    Bob

  6. Serene-y the Meanie said:
    Steve Pope said:
    Serene-y the Meanie said:

    Steve Pope wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    > Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    > melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't parse this sentence. Help?

    The customers test the batches of gluten for protein content.
    Because melamine is a cheap nitrogen-containing substance
    of about the right molecular weight, and the testing is not
    that specific, it boosts the result of the test.

    So the belief is the melamine was deliberately added to boost
    profits.

    But did they know it was poison?

    (I will go google this myself. I'm just boggled, is all.)

    It is also being reported in corn gluten in South Africa now.

    As far as knowing it was poison, it is still not clear whether the
    melamine is the actual poison or a marker for the foods with the
    poison. There could be something else that hasn't been found, but
    happens to be in the same batches of gluten.

    It does seem pretty likely that he melamine was added intentionally to
    make the gluten seem like it was higher quality.

  7. (Steve Pope) said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.
    Thus its addition to wheat gluten and rice protein isolate.

    Steve

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_503671.html

    excerpt:

    The Trib learned yesterday that melamine-contaminated feed was fed to
    hogs.The FDA, U.S. Department of Agriculture and the California Department
    of Food and Agriculture are investigating.

    Some animals that are believed to have eaten the contaminated food were
    slaughtered and sold as food before authorities learned their feed had been
    contaminated, said Nancy Lungren, spokeswoman for the California agriculture
    department.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/crmartin1

  8. "Steve Pope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.
    Thus its addition to wheat gluten and rice protein isolate.

    Steve


    It gets better . . . after reading two different stories, I am not sure if
    the recalled pet food was fed to hogs or if the hogs had their own melamine
    laced food, but whatever. Hogs for the human food chain have been fed the
    doped food. http://tinyurl.com/2xdxvu

  9. Serene-y the Meanie said:
    Quoted message said:

    So the belief is the melamine was deliberately added to boost
    profits.

    Quoted message said:

    But did they know it was poison?

    They probably gauged it was relatively non-toxic since that's
    what the sparse literature suggested. Unfortunately this
    proved not to be true, for cats especially.

    Food that was fatal to a cat in Marin County tested 50 ppm
    melamine. Some of the wheat gluten samples were 7% melamine
    (if you're trying to fudge a test, then you need more than
    a few ppm of it).

    Steve

  10. Steve Pope said:

    Acording to an article in USA Today, the motive was the
    melamine passes for protein in the customer's testing.
    Thus its addition to wheat gluten and rice protein isolate.

    It's not like this kind of thing hasn't happened before, in fact, many times
    before. It's happened with wine, it's happened with olive oil, and who knows
    what else.

    Do people remember the deliberate spiking of Austrian wine with antifreeze
    to give lower quality wine more sweetness so it could be sold for more? This
    was back in the early 1980s from what I recall. Some people have no problem
    putting others health at serious risk, even to the point of killing many, so
    they can generate bigger profits. I think that Gordon Gecko's famous line in
    the movie "Wall Street" is quite true in real life for some businessmen, and
    not just on Wall Street: "Greed is Good"

    As much as we might like to believe otherwise, I'm certain that the ethical
    and moral standards that businesses operate under in China are much weaker
    than in the USA. It's as if they are still in the late 1800s, when the
    conditions such as described in Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" were
    prevalent. When we buy food from there, we are subjecting ourselves to all
    those problems of eras past. It's as if the clock has been turned back on
    food safety.

    --
    wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

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