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  1. I'm a racing newbie. Unattached, cat 5 junior. Nothing spectacular. I
    have no coach, and am unattached. I have had a bit of trouble staying
    in any type of race shape as I was unable to train for about 6 weeks
    this summer. When i first got a bike i could legally race with at the
    end of april, i made it my goal to be able to race in a month. As you
    can imagine I didn't build up a great base. What type of training
    should I do to improve crit preformance? Or should I concentrate on
    building up a solid base for the cross season?

    Would it be in my best interest to join a team? Are there any decent
    clubs in the mass area?

  2. Zamboli said:

    I'm a racing newbie. Unattached, cat 5 junior. Nothing spectacular. I
    have no coach, and am unattached. I have had a bit of trouble staying
    in any type of race shape as I was unable to train for about 6 weeks
    this summer. When i first got a bike i could legally race with at the
    end of april, i made it my goal to be able to race in a month. As you
    can imagine I didn't build up a great base. What type of training
    should I do to improve crit preformance? Or should I concentrate on
    building up a solid base for the cross season?

    Would it be in my best interest to join a team? Are there any decent
    clubs in the mass area?

    Sounds like you're mostly missing base miles. Are you riding daily?
    It's the place to start.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Richard Adams said:
    Zamboli said:

    I'm a racing newbie. Unattached, cat 5 junior. Nothing spectacular. I
    have no coach, and am unattached. I have had a bit of trouble staying
    in any type of race shape as I was unable to train for about 6 weeks
    this summer. When i first got a bike i could legally race with at the
    end of april, i made it my goal to be able to race in a month. As you
    can imagine I didn't build up a great base. What type of training
    should I do to improve crit preformance? Or should I concentrate on
    building up a solid base for the cross season?

    Would it be in my best interest to join a team? Are there any decent
    clubs in the mass area?

    Sounds like you're mostly missing base miles. Are you riding daily?
    It's the place to start.

    Well, he's missing everything. But aside from getting in enough miles,
    try to do intervals, which will generally get your speed up. Hill
    repeats are a nice painful drill.

    Once you have enough base mileage to finish a crit, and have done enough
    intervals to finish with the pack, you can look at your sprint. Either
    that or work more on absolute speed and breakaway during races. Most Cat
    5 packs are disorganized enough that getting three strong riders to
    break together is an excellent way to get on the podium any race.

    Clubs and teams help primarily for the training benefits, which amount
    to riding with stronger riders. At Cat 5, team tactics won't amount to
    much except for teams that are unusually strong at that level (and if
    they are, then those riders usually upgrade really quickly).

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

  4. Quoted message said:

    From: Ryan Cousineau

    Quoted message said:

    Once you have enough base mileage to finish a crit, and have done enough
    intervals to finish with the pack, you can >look at your sprint.

    Suggested ($.02 value) interval method:

    On a flat road with telephone poles alongside, practice "sprinting" for one
    "pole distance", then resting while mostly pedaling for two. Then stand again,
    right at the "start" line the pole makes across the road, roll up a moderate
    gear, practice your (race-winning) bike throw at every "finishing" pole before
    you sit. Keep the effort easy, to where you're "not doing anything" on each
    jump, and build up the number of repeats over time. Do short "sets" (5
    repeats?) at first, some real "rest" in between sets. You can vary the recovery
    level there, be conservative for starters. Go to longer sets and more sets
    before increasing the gear size and effort. IOW, don't come home wiped out the
    first few times you do this. Focus on smooth stands, sits, throws and "seeing"
    lines across the road. This applies to IV-V crit racing where they jump out of
    the saddle for every corner exit and then sit back down for the straight, very
    stressful, un-smooth on/off/on/off effort and something you'll probably only
    see in races unless you practice for it. And that bike toss... Funny how many
    people don't know how to throw at the line.

    Oh yeah, do these jumps alone so you can pay attention and perform at your own
    pace, and practice riding in the drops.

    That expanded. Oh well: "Worked for me". --TP

  5. Quoted message said:

    Well, he's missing everything. But aside from getting in enough miles,
    try to do intervals, which will generally get your speed up. Hill
    repeats are a nice painful drill.

    Once you have enough base mileage to finish a crit, and have done enough
    intervals to finish with the pack, you can look at your sprint. Either
    that or work more on absolute speed and breakaway during races. Most Cat
    5 packs are disorganized enough that getting three strong riders to
    break together is an excellent way to get on the podium any race.

    Clubs and teams help primarily for the training benefits, which amount
    to riding with stronger riders. At Cat 5, team tactics won't amount to
    much except for teams that are unusually strong at that level (and if
    they are, then those riders usually upgrade really quickly).

    I ride just about every day. But should I be doing more interval
    training? Or going on 50 mile rides? I have 2 training crits a week I
    can use for speed work. After my 6 week sebaticle. I am now back to
    the point where I am finishing with the pack. Now i want the aerobic
    capacity to be able to break away. And also to work on a decent
    sprint.
    What seperates the training necessary to compete at Cat 5 and higer
    catagories? Miles?

  6. Quoted message said:

    (Zamboli)

    Quoted message said:

    I am finishing with the pack. Now i want the aerobic
    capacity to be able to break away. And also to work on a decent
    sprint.
    What seperates the training necessary to compete at Cat 5 and higer
    catagories? Miles?

    You didn't say that earlier. Oh well.

    Motor pacing. I'll spare details pending your report on your motorpacing
    activities <g>. --TP

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Zamboli

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, he's missing everything. But aside from getting in enough miles,
    try to do intervals, which will generally get your speed up. Hill
    repeats are a nice painful drill.

    Once you have enough base mileage to finish a crit, and have done enough
    intervals to finish with the pack, you can look at your sprint. Either
    that or work more on absolute speed and breakaway during races. Most Cat
    5 packs are disorganized enough that getting three strong riders to
    break together is an excellent way to get on the podium any race.

    Clubs and teams help primarily for the training benefits, which amount
    to riding with stronger riders. At Cat 5, team tactics won't amount to
    much except for teams that are unusually strong at that level (and if
    they are, then those riders usually upgrade really quickly).

    I ride just about every day. But should I be doing more interval
    training? Or going on 50 mile rides? I have 2 training crits a week I
    can use for speed work. After my 6 week sebaticle. I am now back to
    the point where I am finishing with the pack. Now i want the aerobic
    capacity to be able to break away. And also to work on a decent
    sprint.
    What seperates the training necessary to compete at Cat 5 and higer
    catagories? Miles?

    8-12 hours a week is plenty-if you learn how to train efficiently
    (smart).

    -WG

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