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  1. I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen some
    HED disc wheels and even some 7 spd tubular rear wheels that
    use freewheel not cassette. My question is are they
    compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels
    and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I
    make the plunge investing $1000+ for my good bike. I know
    the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just don't know
    compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

  2. "Stefan Pavlik" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen
    some HED disc wheels and even some


    7

    Quoted message said:

    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette.
    My question is


    are

    Quoted message said:

    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular
    wheels and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper)
    before I make the plunge


    investing

    Quoted message said:

    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but
    like I said,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve


    Freewheel hubs and cassette hubs are not interchangeable. A
    freewheel is threaded onto the hub, and has the freewheeling
    / ratcheting mechanism contained in the cluster of cogs. A
    cassette is slid onto splined fittings and held in place by
    a threaded lockring; the freewheeling / ratcheting mechanism
    is built into the hub (the freehub).
    --
    mark

  3. Stefan Pavlik said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen some
    HED disc wheels and even some 7 spd tubular rear wheels
    that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are they
    compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels
    and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I
    make the plunge investing $1000+ for my good bike. I know
    the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just don't know
    compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

    Do you mean is the indexing compatible? Sounds like you are
    looking to buy complete wheels- hub, rim, spokes. Obviously
    you can't put a freewheel on a cassette hub or vica versa.

    I would imagine that there might be some adjustment on the
    derailleur stop settings- that the cassette and freewheel
    might not sit in exactly the same location left to right. A
    simple adjustment.

  4. mark said:


    "Stefan Pavlik" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen
    some HED disc wheels and even some


    7

    Quoted message said:

    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette.
    My question is


    are

    Quoted message said:

    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular
    wheels and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper)
    before I make the plunge


    investing

    Quoted message said:

    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but
    like I said,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve


    Freewheel hubs and cassette hubs are not interchangeable.
    A freewheel is threaded onto the hub, and has the
    freewheeling / ratcheting mechanism contained in the
    cluster of cogs. A cassette is slid onto splined fittings
    and held in place by a threaded lockring; the freewheeling
    / ratcheting mechanism is built into the hub (the
    freehub). -- mark

    Quoted message said:


    Freewheel cogs and cassette cogs are not interchangeble. But
    a wheel with a 7 speed freewheel is interchangeable with a
    wheel with a 7 speed freewheel. (Assuming the freewheel and
    cassette are both spaced OK for indexing.)

    Having bought Mercian Cycles last three 7 speed freewheels,
    it would seem freewheels are becoming as rare as hen's teeth
    - I would advise against a wheel requiring a freewheel.

    Robert

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen some
    HED disc wheels and even some 7 spd tubular rear wheels
    that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are they
    compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels
    and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I
    make the plunge investing $1000+ for my good bike. I know
    the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just don't know
    compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Compatible in what sense? If you mean indexing wise, it
    depends on the freewheel. Shimano freewheels will be
    compatible with indexiing. Suntour freewheels probably won't
    be compatible.
    -----------
    Alex

  6. Stefan Pavlik said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen some
    HED disc wheels and even some 7 spd tubular rear wheels
    that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are they
    compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels
    and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I
    make the plunge investing $1000+ for my good bike. I know
    the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just don't know
    compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    If you have indexed shifting, the freewheel needs to have
    the same spacing between sprockets as the cassette had,
    which is probably at least 95% likely to be the case for 7-
    speed freewheels. Even if the freewheel supplied with a
    given wheel isn't compatible, the problem can be overcome by
    swapping to one that's spaced to match what you need. If
    you're using friction shifting, there is no problem in this
    area in any event. Possible axle length issues are trivial
    and their solutions are easy.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug. Some gardening required to
    reply via email. Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

  7. "Stefan Pavlik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear
    cassette/hub. I was looking on Ebay and have have seen
    some HED disc wheels and even some 7 spd tubular rear
    wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular
    wheels and solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper)
    before I make the plunge investing $1000+ for my good
    bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of
    great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

    I think you are asking whether a wheel with freewheel can be
    used to replace one with cassette/freehub. If so the answer
    is yes. The method of holding the sprockets in place is
    immaterial as far as the chain is concerned. They end up in
    the same place, more or less, so there is no problem with
    replacing your current wheel/cassette with a new
    wheel/freewheel provided the OLN dimension is the same.

    If old and new parts are Shimano 7-speed then there should
    be no indexing problems (I assume indexed shifters on most
    7-speeds) as Shimano cassette and freewheels have the same
    spacing between sprockets (see sheldonbrown.comgloss sp
    ss.html for details). If mixing makes of lever and freewheel
    then you need to check the sprocket spacing carefully.

    Of course, technically a freehub design is better, but
    freewheel equipment is, as you observe, readily and cheaply
    available, being just about as unfashionable as you can get
    these days (down-tube friction levers excepted). Having
    said that I have bikes with many 1000's of miles on
    freewheels with no problems (except removing those damned
    Suntour 2-peg ones).

    Andrew Webster

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