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  1. I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some 7
    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge investing
    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

  2. "Stefan Pavlik" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some


    7

    Quoted message said:

    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is


    are

    Quoted message said:

    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge


    investing

    Quoted message said:

    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve


    Freewheel hubs and cassette hubs are not interchangeable. A freewheel is
    threaded onto the hub, and has the freewheeling / ratcheting mechanism
    contained in the cluster of cogs. A cassette is slid onto splined fittings
    and held in place by a threaded lockring; the freewheeling / ratcheting
    mechanism is built into the hub (the freehub).
    --
    mark

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  3. Stefan Pavlik said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some 7
    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge investing
    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

    Do you mean is the indexing compatible? Sounds like you are looking to
    buy complete wheels- hub, rim, spokes. Obviously you can't put a
    freewheel on a cassette hub or vica versa.

    I would imagine that there might be some adjustment on the derailleur
    stop settings- that the cassette and freewheel might not sit in
    exactly the same location left to right. A simple adjustment.

  4. mark said:


    "Stefan Pavlik" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub.
    I was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even
    some


    7

    Quoted message said:

    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is


    are

    Quoted message said:

    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and
    solid discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge


    investing

    Quoted message said:

    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve


    Freewheel hubs and cassette hubs are not interchangeable. A freewheel is
    threaded onto the hub, and has the freewheeling / ratcheting mechanism
    contained in the cluster of cogs. A cassette is slid onto splined fittings
    and held in place by a threaded lockring; the freewheeling / ratcheting
    mechanism is built into the hub (the freehub). --
    mark

    Quoted message said:


    Freewheel cogs and cassette cogs are not interchangeble. But a wheel with
    a 7 speed freewheel is interchangeable with a wheel with a 7 speed
    freewheel. (Assuming the freewheel and cassette are both spaced OK for
    indexing.)

    Having bought Mercian Cycles last three 7 speed freewheels, it would seem
    freewheels are becoming as rare as hen's teeth - I would advise against a
    wheel requiring a freewheel.

    Robert

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some 7
    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge investing
    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Compatible in what sense? If you mean indexing wise, it depends on the
    freewheel. Shimano freewheels will be compatible with indexiing. Suntour
    freewheels probably won't be compatible.
    -----------
    Alex

  6. Stefan Pavlik said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some 7
    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge investing
    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    If you have indexed shifting, the freewheel needs to have the same
    spacing between sprockets as the cassette had, which is probably at
    least 95% likely to be the case for 7-speed freewheels. Even if the
    freewheel supplied with a given wheel isn't compatible, the problem
    can be overcome by swapping to one that's spaced to match what you
    need. If you're using friction shifting, there is no problem in this
    area in any event. Possible axle length issues are trivial and their
    solutions are easy.
    --
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  7. "Stefan Pavlik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I have older 7spd road bike. It has a Shimano RSX rear cassette/hub. I
    was looking on Ebay and have have seen some HED disc wheels and even some 7
    spd tubular rear wheels that use freewheel not cassette. My question is are
    they compatible? I would like to experiment with tubular wheels and solid
    discs on my older bike (usually cheaper) before I make the plunge investing
    $1000+ for my good bike. I know the spacing is 126mm but like I said, just
    don't know compatibility of freewheel-vs-cassette.

    Any info or places I can find this out would be of great help

    Thanks in advance, Steve

    I think you are asking whether a wheel with freewheel can be used to
    replace one with cassette/freehub. If so the answer is yes. The
    method of holding the sprockets in place is immaterial as far as the
    chain is concerned. They end up in the same place, more or less, so
    there is no problem with replacing your current wheel/cassette with a
    new wheel/freewheel provided the OLN dimension is the same.

    If old and new parts are Shimano 7-speed then there should be no
    indexing problems (I assume indexed shifters on most 7-speeds) as
    Shimano cassette and freewheels have the same spacing between
    sprockets (see http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sp-ss.html for
    details). If mixing makes of lever and freewheel then you need to
    check the sprocket spacing carefully.

    Of course, technically a freehub design is better, but freewheel
    equipment is, as you observe, readily and cheaply available, being
    just about as unfashionable as you can get these days (down-tube
    friction levers excepted). Having said that I have bikes with many
    1000's of miles on freewheels with no problems (except removing those
    damned Suntour 2-peg ones).

    Andrew Webster

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