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  1. A problem developed recently with my fairly new
    cassette/chain. Both are 6 months old, and I've ridden
    about 1,500 miles/2400 km with them. While I'm pedaling,
    it will suddenly feel like the chain is slipping. Upon
    investigation, however, the chain is securely attached to
    the cassette cogs, chainring, & derailleur cogs. The chain
    is NOT slipping. Basically, the wheel will briefly NOT be
    propelled forward by the cassette as the chain pulls on
    the cassette cog. It happens with each cassette cog and
    every gear I have tried. If there is resistance, such as
    while pedaling up a hill, there seems to be no slippage.
    It tends to happen on mostly flat roads. I can induce it
    by stopping my pedaling momentarily. The next pedaling
    stroke will usually have slippage before my pedaling
    causes the rear wheel to propel the bike forward. But it
    most commonly happens suddenly as I'm simply pedaling
    normally on a flat road.

    Does anyone have an idea what is causing the problem, and if
    it can be fixed?

    Thanks, Eric

  2. You have freewheel problems, specifically the ratchet/pawls are somehow not engaging. Some are spring loaded, others are driven.

    You didn't mention what brand of freehub you have but I would guess its a sprung pawl type. Dirt or hardened grease will do this. It needs to be disassembled and relubed. You might need a bearing and pawl spring swap too.

  3. (Eric) said:

    Does anyone have an idea what is causing the problem, and
    if it can be fixed?

    It sounds like the grease in the freehub has congealed and
    is causing the pawls to stick. Try dripping a little low-
    viscosity lubricant into the works. Disassembling the
    freehub is not a procedure that should be attempted blindly,
    and many (if not most) can be lubed without dismantling.
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  4. I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and
    was able to easily fix it. It was neither the cassette, nor
    the chain, nor the chainwheel, nor the rear derailleur. The
    bike happens to have an internal rear hub shifter which is
    an equivalent of a triple chainring up front. There is a
    cable and miniature chain which controls it via a derailleur-
    type lever on the handlebars. Either the miniature chain
    slipped a notch, or the cable stretched. It was causing
    something funky to sporadically happen to the hub shifter,
    even though I was having no problem shifting it. I noticed
    the cable flickering strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the
    miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately
    disappeared. Thanks for your responses.

    Eric

  5. I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and
    was able to easily fix it. It was neither the cassette, nor
    the chain, nor the chainwheel, nor the rear derailleur. The
    bike happens to have an internal rear hub shifter which is
    an equivalent of a triple chainring up front. There is a
    cable and miniature chain which controls it via a derailleur-
    type lever on the handlebars. Either the miniature chain
    slipped a notch, or the cable stretched. It was causing
    something funky to sporadically happen to the hub shifter,
    even though I was having no problem shifting it. I noticed
    the cable flickering strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the
    miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately
    disappeared. Thanks for your responses.

    Eric

  6. eric-<< While I'm pedaling, it will suddenly feel like the
    chain is slipping.

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    << Basically, the wheel will briefly NOT be propelled
    forward by the cassette as the chain pulls on the cassette
    cog. >><BR><BR>

    Sounds like the pawl system in your rear hub is broken or
    sticky. Depends on the make on whether it can be repaired or
    needs replacement. If shimano, and two pawl ststem, with one
    'damaged' breaking the other can really hurt-be careful.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
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  7. Eric said:

    I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and
    was able to easily fix it. It was neither the cassette,
    nor the chain, nor the chainwheel, nor the rear
    derailleur. The bike happens to have an internal rear hub
    shifter which is an equivalent of a triple chainring up
    front. There is a cable and miniature chain which
    controls it via a derailleur-type lever on the
    handlebars. Either the miniature chain slipped a notch,
    or the cable stretched. It was causing something funky to
    sporadically happen to the hub shifter, even though I was
    having no problem shifting it. I noticed the cable
    flickering strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the
    miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately
    disappeared. Thanks for your responses.

    This part is known as the "indicator chain".

    I suggest carrying a spare, since if it breaks you will be
    stuck in high range (1.36:1 overdrive). I had this happen on
    a SRAM Spectro 3x7 hub.

    There is a “false neutral” that can accidentally be engaged
    in the SRAM/Sachs 3x7 hub (and presumably the 3-speed Sachs
    Torpedo hub on which it is based). I am not aware if this
    occurs with the SRAM 3x7/8/9 DualDrive hub that has
    different internals.

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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