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  1. Hey Sandy
    We all know about our buddy Pound, but what about Briner? What I can
    find about him looks pretty decent, but it's not enough to really form
    an opinion on.
    Thanks
    Bill C

  2. Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    Bill C <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    Hey Sandy
    We all know about our buddy Pound, but what about Briner? What I can
    find about him looks pretty decent, but it's not enough to really form
    an opinion on.
    Thanks
    Bill C

    I am not distracted by such a nomination. The entire process of finalizing
    (don't even suggest it's arbitration!) the penalties is so loaded that it
    offends any student of dispute resolution.

    The appeal panel must be composed of 2/3 national federation nominated
    panelists, whose loyalty to disciplinary action, to their home federations,
    and consequently to the UCI, is unquestioned.

    Much better if the current Grand Tour cartel decided to use other governing
    bodies, such as UFOLEP in France. I'll bet the US has its own version.
    --
    Bonne route !

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

  3. "Sandy" a écrit profondement:

    | Much better if the current Grand Tour cartel decided to use other governing
    | bodies, such as UFOLEP in France. I'll bet the US has its own version.

    I've been advocating that for ages. And yes, the USA has a rival
    association to the UCI but I forget what it is called and it isn't
    very well active but does have spotty support across the country.

    And for three seasons now I've personally had a UFOLEP license.

    I'll never have a UCI License again

    --
    Davey Crockett
    -
    Stick the ProTour where the Sun Don't Shine
    -
    Driving a Stake through the
    Heart of the Politically Correct

  4. Davey Crockett said:


    Well to my way of thinking, something has to change, and change
    both drastically and very soon too or cycling is in big trouble.

    The races are falling by the wayside in droves and besides the doping
    debacle, cost is the major factor.

    And the same holds true for the teams/sponsors

    We managed for around a hundred years with virtually no interference
    from the UCI and I bet we could do so again.

    WHERE ARE THEY NOW??

    Admittedly, many of these are long gone, and some have changes names,
    but there are still an incredible number that have disappeared
    recently or were started up and run for a year or two before being
    abandoned. And these are only the major events. Literally Thousands of
    local and national events have disappeared too.

    <snipped>

    Let's see, MLB set all kinds of records this year, the Superbowl was
    the second highest rated piece of TV in US history, and aren't they
    having doping "problems" too?
    Here's the latest from the folks running our favorite sport:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb05news2

    Ballan requests CONI hearing
    quoted:

    Riders and staff complained of the timing of the visit, which started
    at 23:00 and lasted until 3:30 Tuesday morning. Torri called for the
    night controls and sent four testers to the Italian ProTour team's
    camp, however, according to the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) rules,
    tests should be carried out between the hours of 7:00 and 22:00

    Swiss cycling in financial troubles
    quoted:

    According to the website of the German cycling federation, rad-net.de,
    Swiss Cycling is looking for 100,000 to 300,000 Swiss franc (62,000 to
    185,000 euro). Two Swiss Cycling officials have sent a mailing to
    members, asking them to look for private sponsors who would be willing
    to donate a minimum of 600 franc (370 euro).

    The financial problems are apparently not new. Five of the group's
    eight directors have resigned in the last few months, including the
    finance director.

    Nice job folks. Coming soon to the US courtesy of USAC's inferiority
    complex.
    Bill C

  5. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    The financial problems are apparently not new. Five of the group's
    eight directors have resigned in the last few months, including the
    finance director.

    The problem is that no one can count on the UCI or the grand tour leaders to
    be stable enough to support a real sport.

    UCI made a huge mistake when they tried to take over cycling. That was a
    silly move even coming from the sort of people who believe that insulting
    their own member riders and trying to destroy their own sport instead of
    trying to overcome the real problems is a logical way to go.

  6. Bill C said:

    Let's see, MLB set all kinds of records this year, the Superbowl was
    the second highest rated piece of TV in US history, and aren't they
    having doping "problems" too?

    dumbass,

    do you think the the result of the superbowl will be reversed 6 mos.
    from now when plaxico buress is found to have taken kenacort for this
    ankle.

    do you even think there are post-superbowl dope tests ? no, the NFL
    designed the system, so that can never happen. they're not stupid.

    on the other hand everyone in cycling is. the UCI is a high school
    clique, the team managers are all shady and the organizers are a bunch
    of passive aggressive queens that will never take a stand.

  7. On Feb 6, 12:55 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bill C said:

    Let's see, MLB set all kinds of records this year, the Superbowl was
    the second highest rated piece of TV in US history, and aren't they
    having doping "problems" too?

    dumbass,

    do you think the the result of the superbowl will be reversed 6 mos.
    from now when plaxico buress is found to have taken kenacort for this
    ankle.

    do you even think there are post-superbowl dope tests ? no, the NFL
    designed the system, so that can never happen. they're not stupid.

    on the other hand everyone in cycling is. the UCI is a high school
    clique, the team managers are all shady and the organizers are a bunch
    of passive aggressive queens that will never take a stand.

    Pretty much agreed. I'm not sure that cyclists bend the rules anymore
    than in other sports we just handle it miserably.
    Bill C

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