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  1. Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

  2. i'd be wary of 'hucking' (as the Pace cycles website says) this thing
    down anything....but that said, it looks very pimp and i'd love to have
    one... the problem with carbon fiber is, if it's scratched or gouged in
    any way, it's basically trashed....

    some redflags here are:
    rider weight restrictions, 210 lbs??
    titanium crown-while light, doesn't replace aluminum as a stiffer AND
    lighter alternative, only lighter
    if the carbon makes contact with boulders, curbs, etc, it's days are
    drastically numbered!

    Vee said:

    Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

  3. Performancebike.com even sells a house brand CXcross fork now for under
    $200. Don't know if I'd trust them day after day off road, but if you
    commute on your CXbike--it's not too expensive and shaves a very decend
    chunk of weight off the front end.

    The fork linked to sure is pretty extraordinary light though, A pound
    for the whole thing. Nice.

  4. The pace fork generally has a good reputation. As long as you are using
    it as intended its a great fork and is supposed to help soak up some
    trail buzz. I used one for a while, and still have it in fact but have
    since put a steel fork back on as I want the option to let loose once
    in a while. I have to say I haven't noticed any difference in the
    'trail buzz' either.

  5. Vee said:

    Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

    I have just a couple minor questions.
    What's the intended use?
    Where do you ride?
    How much do you weigh?
    How much will your life really improve with a $350 rigid fork?
    Are you already using discs, or will you need to add them to the
    expense since this puppy doesn't have V-posts?

    /s

  6. Scott Gordo said:
    Vee said:

    Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

    I have just a couple minor questions.
    What's the intended use?
    Where do you ride?
    How much do you weigh?
    How much will your life really improve with a $350 rigid fork?
    Are you already using discs, or will you need to add them to the
    expense since this puppy doesn't have V-posts?

    /s

    Do these questions need an answer? I mean, Pace and Winwood are
    representing their forks as suitable for mountain biking. Are the
    forks up to it or not?

    If you insist on more context: assume the rider weighs less than Pace's
    weight limit (210 lbs). Assume the bike will be ridden off-road, and
    will bounce over rocks and probably crash into trees every now and
    then. Nothing beyond the limits of what's possible with a rigid fork
    in a competent cross-country rider's hands.

    I wouldn't be comfortable riding one off road because I've never seen
    or heard of anybody doing so, and I would personally love to go through
    life without ever breaking a fork. Is that rational? They work for
    roadies and CX racers...

    -Vee

  7. Vee said:
    Scott Gordo said:
    Vee said:

    Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

    I have just a couple minor questions.
    What's the intended use?
    Where do you ride?
    How much do you weigh?
    How much will your life really improve with a $350 rigid fork?
    Are you already using discs, or will you need to add them to the
    expense since this puppy doesn't have V-posts?

    /s

    Do these questions need an answer? I mean, Pace and Winwood are
    representing their forks as suitable for mountain biking. Are the
    forks up to it or not?

    If you insist on more context: assume the rider weighs less than Pace's
    weight limit (210 lbs). Assume the bike will be ridden off-road, and
    will bounce over rocks and probably crash into trees every now and
    then. Nothing beyond the limits of what's possible with a rigid fork
    in a competent cross-country rider's hands.

    I wouldn't be comfortable riding one off road because I've never seen
    or heard of anybody doing so, and I would personally love to go through
    life without ever breaking a fork. Is that rational? They work for
    roadies and CX racers...

    -Vee

    My apologies. You're correct. My questions were totally irrelevant.
    These forks are advertized as mountainbike forks. so they're obviously
    up for anything within the gamut of what falls under 'mtb'.

    Have fun!

    /s

  8. Vee said:
    Scott Gordo said:
    Vee said:

    Pace and Winwood make carbon fiber forks for off-road use:

    https://www.pacecycles.com/product.asp?catID=2&subcat=462
    http://www.winwoodbike.com/purist.html

    Has anyone tried either? Opinions about safety and durability?

    -Vee

    I have just a couple minor questions.
    What's the intended use?
    Where do you ride?
    How much do you weigh?
    How much will your life really improve with a $350 rigid fork?
    Are you already using discs, or will you need to add them to the
    expense since this puppy doesn't have V-posts?

    /s

    Do these questions need an answer? I mean, Pace and Winwood are
    representing their forks as suitable for mountain biking. Are the
    forks up to it or not?

    If you insist on more context: assume the rider weighs less than Pace's
    weight limit (210 lbs). Assume the bike will be ridden off-road, and
    will bounce over rocks and probably crash into trees every now and
    then. Nothing beyond the limits of what's possible with a rigid fork
    in a competent cross-country rider's hands.

    I wouldn't be comfortable riding one off road because I've never seen
    or heard of anybody doing so, and I would personally love to go through
    life without ever breaking a fork. Is that rational? They work for
    roadies and CX racers...

    -Vee

    Since you haven't gotten too many useful answers I'll say something
    even though I don't like carbon forks and haven't ridden either of
    these... most likely, just like other carbon forks, they're plenty
    strong enough for their intended use - XC, with a rider within the
    weight limit, doing stuff that the mfg specifies as okay, which I bet
    for both of these consists of only the lighter, more abuse-free
    definition of "XC." And just like other carbon forks, they'll be prone
    to damage from loads they're not intended for, such as what occurs
    during a crash, and the damage will sometimes be virtually invisible
    and lead to spontaneous failure if use is continued. So no, they
    probably wouldn't generally be up to crashing into trees, and the
    manufacturer's instructions are probably to replace the fork if
    anything remotely resembling crashing into a tree in a way that might
    involve the fork occurs.

    The nature of carbon forks as civilians experience them is that they're
    inherently strong, because carbon is very strong stuff, but they do
    have these issues with potential fragility after potential abuse has
    occurred. There are now a lot of carbon forks in the hands of people
    who aren't exactly concerned with abiding by the "this might break if
    it's ever been crashed" thing, and failure is not an epidemic problem
    and, hopefully, it won't ever be. But it does happen, and the
    circumstances aren't predictable.

  9. Vee said:

    I wouldn't be comfortable riding one off road because I've never seen
    or heard of anybody doing so

    Loads of people us the Pace rigids in the UK. Like I said they have a
    very good rep. Often there are topics on forums from people looking to
    get a pair but nervous of their durability asking if anyone has ever
    had a set fail and the answer is usually 'no'.

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2210985&t=2210985#reply_2210985

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2199023&t=2199023#reply_2199023

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2144310&t=2144310#reply_2144310

  10. spademan o---) * said:
    Vee said:

    I wouldn't be comfortable riding one off road because I've never seen
    or heard of anybody doing so

    Loads of people us the Pace rigids in the UK. Like I said they have a
    very good rep. Often there are topics on forums from people looking to
    get a pair but nervous of their durability asking if anyone has ever
    had a set fail and the answer is usually 'no'.

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2210985&t=2210985#reply_2210985

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2199023&t=2199023#reply_2199023

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=2144310&t=2144310#reply_2144310

    Thanks for the links. Some of those guys said they broke the Pace
    carbon fork. I guess what I was getting at is, carbon fiber seems like
    an implausible material for a mountain bike fork, and hearing that
    other people have broken them is enough to deter me. I don't know if
    that's rational or not, since CF handlebars and seatposts are common on
    mountain bikes, and those parts are just as critical as forks...

    -Vee

  11. One bloke said he broke a set, another had his run over. Ah well I
    kinda agree with you anyway but the evidence suggests otherwise.

  12. i would buy it if i were building up a singlespeed for specifically
    moderate terrain, and nothing more.

  13. Ah I didn't realise they were a singlespeed fork, I'm so sorry I got
    misxed up and thought they could be used on geared bikes as well <slaps
    head> what a dumbass I must be.

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