"Carbon footprint"

Chris Malcolm said:

Isn't the centre of York an experimental traffic jam?

It's one of the longest running experiments I've ever seen!

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Stevie D said:

POHB said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

Also avoid buying and schlepping water.

Also applies if you shop by car, that's what all those pipes are for.

True, but it applies to other liquids as well. If you're wanting to
buy any drinks in quantity, be they bottled water, lemonade, wine etc,
they will be heavy.

For the lemonade get a Sodastream. The CO2 cyclider is not that heavy and
will carbonate a lot of liquid. No way round the wine however.

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Stevie D said:

Every time I have to drive in the centre of York, I wish I could have
gone by bike or by bus.

Every time I need to cross the centre of York on a bus, I wish I could
have been on a bike. It could just be the route I use, but crossing town
on a bus is painfully slow.
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Chris Johns

Paul Luton said:

Quoted message said:

True, but it applies to other liquids as well. If you're wanting to
buy any drinks in quantity, be they bottled water, lemonade, wine etc,
they will be heavy.

Quoted message said:

For the lemonade get a Sodastream. The CO2 cyclider is not that heavy and
will carbonate a lot of liquid. No way round the wine however.

I get (pretty much all) my wine from Virgin Wines. They deliver it to your
house, and if you're not in they will leave it in a shed or wherever, or
with a neighbour.

I think at least some of the other wine sellers do a similar thing.
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Chris Johns

Chris Johns said:

Every time I need to cross the centre of York on a bus, I wish I could
have been on a bike. It could just be the route I use, but crossing town
on a bus is painfully slow.

It is, but at least on a bus you can relax and read a book/newspaper,
rather than having to concentrate on the traffic like you do in a car.

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Quoting Stevie D <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

True, but it applies to other liquids as well. If you're wanting to
buy any drinks in quantity, be they bottled water, lemonade, wine etc,
they will be heavy.

I get beer and apple juice by trailer - no problem. I moved four dozen
beer bottles once when our local Safeway discounted their entire stock to
half price, and that's _rather_ more than a week's supply...
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David Damerell said:

Quoting Stevie D <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

True, but it applies to other liquids as well. If you're wanting to
buy any drinks in quantity, be they bottled water, lemonade, wine etc,
they will be heavy.

I get beer and apple juice by trailer - no problem. I moved four dozen
beer bottles once when our local Safeway discounted their entire stock to
half price, and that's _rather_ more than a week's supply...

I sometimes do the shopping with my trailer - I can get a full
supermarket trolley load in the trailer, so unless people go round the
supermarket with 2 trollies it's hardly a limiting factor.

(Although I've never understood this bizarre idea of buying bottled
water at the supermarket. Most people can't tell the difference in a
blind tasting.)

Paul Rudin said:

(Although I've never understood this bizarre idea of buying bottled
water at the supermarket. Most people can't tell the difference in a
blind tasting.)

I used to think the same way until I moved to London in the 80's. In
Manchester (where I grew up) the tap water was clean and fresh, in London it
tasted like it had been through several other people first (which it had!)

I also found out what shaving foam was for, as soap doesn't work there
either.

Tom
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Chris Johns said:

Paul Luton said:

Quoted message said:

True, but it applies to other liquids as well. If you're wanting to
buy any drinks in quantity, be they bottled water, lemonade, wine etc,
they will be heavy.

Quoted message said:

For the lemonade get a Sodastream. The CO2 cyclider is not that heavy and
will carbonate a lot of liquid. No way round the wine however.

I get (pretty much all) my wine from Virgin Wines. They deliver it to your
house, and if you're not in they will leave it in a shed or wherever, or
with a neighbour.

Not with /my/ neighbours they won't! :-) But then again, I think
they're beer drinkers.

Quoted message said:

I think at least some of the other wine sellers do a similar thing.
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Chris Johns

Tom said:

Paul Rudin <[email hidden]> wrote:
I used to think the same way until I moved to London in the 80's. In
Manchester (where I grew up) the tap water was clean and fresh, in London it
tasted like it had been through several other people first (which it had!)

It varies from place to place. In my first London flat it was horrible
and I generalised that all London water was bad, but half a mile away
it is fine.

On a recent holiday up a mountain I was very disappointed to find the
tap water was vile. It turned out that it came from a fresh mountain
spring, but had so much disolved mineral content that it would quickly
fur up all the pipes and heaters if they didn't shove it through a huge
water softener first, which made it taste horrible. Had to buy bottled
until I found that across the road they had a different supply.