Carb as percentage

Bear said:

Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents. If
anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
Cheers.

Hi Bear,
I like using the percents also. I try and keep mine to: fat: 60%, protein
28% and carbs: 12%. My diet usually works out to a bit less fat and a bit
more protein, but that's what I strive for.
HTH, Monica 🙂
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Bear wrote:
|| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
|| grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents.
|| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?

It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you appetite
suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too. I'd say 5 to 10
percent would not be too far off for a lot of folks.

Bear said:

Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?

Just FYI the liver doesn't care what percentage carbs are. It deals
with total quantity, nothing else. That's why LC diets are set up
with gram limits, not percent limits.

HOWEVER most moderate-carb plans use percentages, ranging from 33% for
isocaloric to a 50/30/20 split for "moderate carb".

Roger Zoul said:

Bear wrote:
|| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
|| grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents.
|| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?

It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you appetite
suppression.

????

Skinny

I think he meant "your carb level needs to be LOW enough to give you
appetite suppression".

Skinny said:

Roger Zoul said:

Bear wrote:
|| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
|| grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents.
|| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?

It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you appetite
suppression.

????

-----
Bev

Yes, low enough but no lower than that....this is a LOW carb newsgroup.

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| I think he meant "your carb level needs to be LOW enough to give you
|| appetite suppression".
||
|| on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:06 GMT, Skinny <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:30 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
|||
|||| Bear wrote:
|||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
|||||| than by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
|||||| percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
||||
|||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
|||| appetite suppression.
|||
||| ????
||
|| -----
|| Bev

DJ Delorie wrote:
|| "Bear" <[email hidden]> writes:
||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
||| grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
||| percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
||
|| Just FYI the liver doesn't care what percentage carbs are. It deals
|| with total quantity, nothing else. That's why LC diets are set up
|| with gram limits, not percent limits.

That's a good point. At a certain point on the carb scale (in grams)
you'll shift out of or into ketosis and that is not a function of percent of
carbs. But it can be stated in those terms of you eat a certain calorie
level.

||
|| HOWEVER most moderate-carb plans use percentages, ranging from 33%
|| for isocaloric to a 50/30/20 split for "moderate carb".

Thanks Ig. I'll give some thought to what you've said. I can't dispute the
problems I've had in the past.
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Quoted message said:

Bear, if you permit me to say one thought. You are asking a great
question, and my personal answer is that tracking percentages is
useful. Just in case you want to create a diet of your own that tracks
some variable that is not tracked by standard diets: You had a lot of
troubles, previously, trying to invent your own diet and stray from
diets that are known to work. My suggestion is that if you want to
really lose weight, to stick to some known good diet 100%, with no
deviations whatsoever. At least until you get very close to, or right
to, normal weight.

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Hey Monica,
I was thinking about you this morning and wondering how you're doing. That
is helpful to me.

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Quoted message said:

Bear said:

Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents. If
anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
Cheers.

Hi Bear,
I like using the percents also. I try and keep mine to: fat: 60%,

protein

Quoted message said:

28% and carbs: 12%. My diet usually works out to a bit less fat and a bit
more protein, but that's what I strive for.
HTH, Monica 🙂
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"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you appetite
suppression.

Good point Roger.
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Warning. I thought your 5-10 percent looked low so I did some fiddling
around with my numbers in FitDay. I am for 40-45 grams of carb per day and
noted that my percentages in FitDay were often above 10%. However, when I
did some calculating I realized that the percentage figure they give for
carbs on the Weight Goal screen includes the fiber grams. So if you use
FitDay for tracking percentages, keep this in mind. You will have to do
your own calculation for net carbs.

In news:[email hidden],
Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
| Bear wrote:
||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
||| grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents.
||| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
|
| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
| appetite suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too. I'd
| say 5 to 10 percent would not be too far off for a lot of folks.

Actually, the % should be right because the carbs calories don't include any
fiber calories. So to get the % of carbs, do 4 * (total carbs -
fiber)/total calories * 100.

for guys like me and bear, the % maybe lower than for you and those lighter
than us, since, as DJ pointed out, the body doesn't work on % but on grams.
So the higher the calorie level one eats at, the lower the % will be for a
given level of carbs.

Oh, I'm looking at a different screen than the Weight Goal Screen. I'm
looking at the Calories Eaten Today table. That might explain the
difference.

FOB wrote:
|| Warning. I thought your 5-10 percent looked low so I did some
|| fiddling around with my numbers in FitDay. I am for 40-45 grams of
|| carb per day and noted that my percentages in FitDay were often
|| above 10%. However, when I did some calculating I realized that the
|| percentage figure they give for carbs on the Weight Goal screen
|| includes the fiber grams. So if you use FitDay for tracking
|| percentages, keep this in mind. You will have to do your own
|| calculation for net carbs.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
||| Bear wrote:
||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than
||||| by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
||||| percents.
||||| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
|||
||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
||| appetite suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too. I'd
||| say 5 to 10 percent would not be too far off for a lot of folks.

I guess you mean what percent of your total day's food is carbs/protein/fat.

What I'd find useful would be a reference saying what the percents are
within each food.

For example my Kettle brand almond butter says:
serving size 28
fat 16
carb 6
pro 5

Roughly I translate that into round numbers as:
fat 50%
carb 20
pro 20

Looks like carb is the clear loser, so.... 🙂

Skinny
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Bear said:

Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than by
grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of percents. If

anyone

Quoted message said:

does, what percent/day for weight loss?
Cheers.

7% for me. YMMV

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Yes, low enough but no lower than that....this is a LOW carb newsgroup.

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| I think he meant "your carb level needs to be LOW enough to give you
|| appetite suppression".
||
|| on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:06 GMT, Skinny <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:30 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
|||
|||| Bear wrote:
|||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
|||||| than by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
|||||| percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
||||
|||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
|||| appetite suppression.
|||
||| ????
||
|| -----
|| Bev

FitDay has some strange inconsistencies. On the Weight Goal screen the
Carbs figure is net carbs, on the Calories Eaten the carbs figure includes
fiber. But on the Weight Goal screen the % of calories column shows the
percentage for total carbs, that's the same figure used in Calories eaten.
Bad programming as the line on WG says Carbs (not Fiber) but the percentage
is for total carbs.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Actually, the % should be right because the carbs calories don't include any
fiber calories. So to get the % of carbs, do 4 * (total carbs -
fiber)/total calories * 100.

for guys like me and bear, the % maybe lower than for you and those lighter
than us, since, as DJ pointed out, the body doesn't work on % but on grams.
So the higher the calorie level one eats at, the lower the % will be for a
given level of carbs.

Oh, I'm looking at a different screen than the Weight Goal Screen. I'm
looking at the Calories Eaten Today table. That might explain the
difference.

FOB wrote:
|| Warning. I thought your 5-10 percent looked low so I did some
|| fiddling around with my numbers in FitDay. I am for 40-45 grams of
|| carb per day and noted that my percentages in FitDay were often
|| above 10%. However, when I did some calculating I realized that the
|| percentage figure they give for carbs on the Weight Goal screen
|| includes the fiber grams. So if you use FitDay for tracking
|| percentages, keep this in mind. You will have to do your own
|| calculation for net carbs.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
||| Bear wrote:
||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather than
||||| by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
||||| percents.
||||| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
|||
||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
||| appetite suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too. I'd
||| say 5 to 10 percent would not be too far off for a lot of folks.

Might have something to do with it being free! 🙂

FOB wrote:
|| FitDay has some strange inconsistencies. On the Weight Goal screen
|| the Carbs figure is net carbs, on the Calories Eaten the carbs
|| figure includes fiber. But on the Weight Goal screen the % of
|| calories column shows the percentage for total carbs, that's the
|| same figure used in Calories eaten. Bad programming as the line on
|| WG says Carbs (not Fiber) but the percentage is for total carbs.
||
||
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
|| Actually, the % should be right because the carbs calories don't
|| include any fiber calories. So to get the % of carbs, do 4 *
|| (total carbs - fiber)/total calories * 100.
||
|| for guys like me and bear, the % maybe lower than for you and those
|| lighter than us, since, as DJ pointed out, the body doesn't work on
|| % but on grams. So the higher the calorie level one eats at, the
|| lower the % will be for a given level of carbs.
||
|| Oh, I'm looking at a different screen than the Weight Goal Screen.
|| I'm looking at the Calories Eaten Today table. That might explain
|| the difference.
||
|| FOB wrote:
|||| Warning. I thought your 5-10 percent looked low so I did some
|||| fiddling around with my numbers in FitDay. I am for 40-45 grams of
|||| carb per day and noted that my percentages in FitDay were often
|||| above 10%. However, when I did some calculating I realized that
|||| the percentage figure they give for carbs on the Weight Goal screen
|||| includes the fiber grams. So if you use FitDay for tracking
|||| percentages, keep this in mind. You will have to do your own
|||| calculation for net carbs.
||||
|||| In news:[email hidden],
|||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
||||| Bear wrote:
||||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
||||||| than
||||||| by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
||||||| percents.
||||||| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
|||||
||||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
||||| appetite suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too.
||||| I'd say 5 to 10 percent would not be too far off for a lot of
||||| folks.

Ok,thanks. Do you happen to know how this relates to us who are low-carbing
for BG control rather than weight loss?

Skinny
------------

Roger Zoul said:

Yes, low enough but no lower than that....this is a LOW carb newsgroup.

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| I think he meant "your carb level needs to be LOW enough to give you
|| appetite suppression".
||
|| on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:06 GMT, Skinny <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:30 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
|||
|||| Bear wrote:
|||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
|||||| than by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
|||||| percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
||||
|||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
|||| appetite suppression.
|||
||| ????
||
|| -----
|| Bev

I have the paid version.

In news:[email hidden],
Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
| Might have something to do with it being free! 🙂
|
| FOB wrote:
||| FitDay has some strange inconsistencies. On the Weight Goal screen
||| the Carbs figure is net carbs, on the Calories Eaten the carbs
||| figure includes fiber. But on the Weight Goal screen the % of
||| calories column shows the percentage for total carbs, that's the
||| same figure used in Calories eaten. Bad programming as the line on
||| WG says Carbs (not Fiber) but the percentage is for total carbs.
|||
|||
||| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||| news:[email hidden]...
||| Actually, the % should be right because the carbs calories don't
||| include any fiber calories. So to get the % of carbs, do 4 *
||| (total carbs - fiber)/total calories * 100.
|||
||| for guys like me and bear, the % maybe lower than for you and those
||| lighter than us, since, as DJ pointed out, the body doesn't work on
||| % but on grams. So the higher the calorie level one eats at, the
||| lower the % will be for a given level of carbs.
|||
||| Oh, I'm looking at a different screen than the Weight Goal Screen.
||| I'm looking at the Calories Eaten Today table. That might explain
||| the difference.
|||
||| FOB wrote:
||||| Warning. I thought your 5-10 percent looked low so I did some
||||| fiddling around with my numbers in FitDay. I am for 40-45 grams
||||| of carb per day and noted that my percentages in FitDay were often
||||| above 10%. However, when I did some calculating I realized that
||||| the percentage figure they give for carbs on the Weight Goal
||||| screen includes the fiber grams. So if you use FitDay for
||||| tracking percentages, keep this in mind. You will have to do
||||| your own calculation for net carbs.
|||||
||||| In news:[email hidden],
||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
|||||| Bear wrote:
|||||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
|||||||| than
|||||||| by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea of
|||||||| percents.
|||||||| If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
||||||
|||||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
|||||| appetite suppression. BG control might also be an issue, too.
|||||| I'd say 5 to 10 percent would not be too far off for a lot of
|||||| folks.

Skinny wrote:
|| Ok,thanks. Do you happen to know how this relates to us who are
|| low-carbing for BG control rather than weight loss?
||

Not really. However, your meter will be your guide (mine is!!).

As you may know, carb level with also depend on activity level too, so more
activity the high in carbs you can go, in general. But those who have BG
issues are in a world of their own, imo. Your body has to tell you what to
do (IME).

||
|| Skinny
|| ------------
||
||
|| On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:30:46 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
||
||| Yes, low enough but no lower than that....this is a LOW carb
||| newsgroup.
|||
||| Bev-Ann wrote:
||||| I think he meant "your carb level needs to be LOW enough to give
||||| you appetite suppression".
|||||
||||| on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:06 GMT, Skinny <[email hidden]> wrote:
|||||
|||||| On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:30 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
||||||
||||||| Bear wrote:
||||||||| Just wondering if anyone tracks carbs as a percentage rather
||||||||| than by grams/day? I started using fitday and I like the idea
||||||||| of percents. If anyone does, what percent/day for weight loss?
|||||||
||||||| It will depend. Your carb level needs to be enough to give you
||||||| appetite suppression.
||||||
|||||| ????
|||||
||||| -----
||||| Bev