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  1. Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale
    doing a one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the
    mens' cross country. Because I'd missed the fact that last
    nights programme started twenty minutes earlier than
    Sunday's I missed the womens cross-country.

    Cedric Gracia, also on Cannondale, was either second or
    third in the men's downhill (I forget which and I can't find
    a website to confirm) - however I don't feel so excited
    about that because it isn't really cycling if you get a
    cable car to do the hard work.

    I think the guy who won the four-cross was on a Nicolai but
    I didn't see the bike long enough to be really sure.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon

    ;; my other
    religion is Emacs

  2. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale
    doing a one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in
    the mens' cross country. Because I'd missed the fact that
    last nights programme started twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more
    coverage still to come? Which channel? When?

    Rich

  3. in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman

    (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6s2gp1-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see
    Cannondale doing a one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel
    Paulissen) in the mens' cross country. Because I'd missed
    the fact that last nights programme started twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more
    coverage still to come? Which channel? When?

    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it. It was extremely
    well done, in my opinion. Clearly not very expensively
    produced, and with a little bit of acknowledgement of a non-
    biking audience - not much technicality and apart from
    Honda no brand names got mentioned (although the
    commentators did comment on the Lefties on the winning XC
    bikes). There was some helicopter overhead coverage which
    worked well for the top of the downhill and for good
    sections of the XC, and a lot of trackside cameras at
    different points on the track - some obviously hand-held.
    Although we only got coverage of the top few downhillers
    runs and of that only about a minute and a half out of each
    (four and a bit minute) run, we got about fifteen minutes
    coverage of the Mens' Crosscountry (and, as I switched on
    twenty minutes after last night's program had started and
    the Womens' XC coverage was just finishing) presumably
    fifteen minutes of the Womens' XC as well.

    The anchor was a rather gushing woman I didn't recognise,
    who did an OK-ish job. The commentary teams consisted of
    one experienced TV sports commentator and one experienced
    cyclist, and this worked well (wasn't the same commentary
    team for all events). The commentators had done their
    homework and were able to give bits of background on each
    rider, and the cyclist was able to comment on things like
    lines and technicalities. In the introduction to the
    downhill programme the cyclist member of the commentator
    team did a run down the course himself with a helmet
    camera and described it as he experienced it, which was
    good watching.

    The interviews, although quite brief, were quite good too,
    and it was interesting to see the Irish chap from the UCI,
    and also the Sports Minister, being interviewed. The
    implication from both interviews is that we would see more
    high quality mountain bike competition in Scotland and that
    there would be more promotion of it - the guy from the UCI
    was extremely complimentary about the organisation of the
    event, and about the crowds, which were apparently bigger
    (more than 10,000 - 15,000 got mentioned on last night's
    programme) than are common at cycling events.

    Personally I'd have liked to see much more about the bikes -
    the only one we saw in much detail was the much-hyped
    Honda[1] (Greg Minnaar) which won the Mens' Downhill.
    However all in all it was good television
    - one hour forty minutes in all - which for a general
    audience I think would have been at least as interesting
    as 'Ski Sunday', which, in format, it very much resembled.

    I personally didn't go much for the four-cross event - too
    short to be interesting, I thought, although tactics were
    interesting (that Steve Peat is a maniac - but a very
    capable maniac). The downhill probably made the best
    television as television, although for me the XC was the
    best bit. And what was really good about it, for me, was
    watching the guys on the course on bikes not that different
    from mine and knowing that in the immortal words 'I could do
    that' - not fast enough to compete with those guys, of
    course, but there was nothing on the XC course which looked
    technically beyond me.

    Worth staying up late for.

    [1] This bike has a bottom bracket gearbox of precisely the
    type I've been suggesting for some time. However,
    because it's not a URT it has a fairly complex chain-
    line which must cost a bit in efficiency.

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    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
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  4. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it. It was extremely
    well done, in my opinion. Clearly not very expensively
    produced, and with a little bit of acknowledgement of a
    non-biking audience - not much technicality and apart from
    Honda no brand names got mentioned (although the
    commentators did comment on the Lefties on the winning XC
    bikes). There was some helicopter overhead coverage which
    worked well for the top of the downhill and for good
    sections of the XC, and a lot of trackside cameras at
    different points on the track - some obviously hand-held.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    However all in all it was good television
    - one hour forty minutes in all - which for a general
    audience I think would have been at least as interesting
    as 'Ski Sunday', which, in format, it very much
    resembled.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Worth staying up late for.

    Sounds like excellent coverage. I can see you're only trying
    to make me feel jealous 😉

    Quoted message said:

    This bike has a bottom bracket gearbox of precisely the
    type I've been suggesting for some time. However, because
    it's not a URT it has a fairly complex chain-line which
    must cost a bit in efficiency.

    --

    Ah, that would be this one then: img15.photobucket.c-img15.photobucket.c-
    om/albums/v45/Sylvain/1%20Fort%20Bill%20people%20a
    nd%20bikes/cbikes12honda.jpg
    Mmm. I saw some of your postings about bb gearboxes on rbt.
    Now that would be an interesting toy to play with.

    Rich

  5. Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale
    doing a one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in
    the mens' cross country. Because I'd missed the fact that
    last nights programme started twenty minutes earlier than
    Sunday's I missed the womens cross-country.

    Cedric Gracia, also on Cannondale, was either second or
    third in the men's downhill (I forget which and I can't
    find a website to confirm) - however I don't feel so
    excited about that because it isn't really cycling if you
    get a cable car to do the hard work.

    Wish there was a cable car where I go downhill racing...
    it's all push back to the top. And before you say "ride it",
    it really is too steep and a bike with 38:11-26 gearing &
    170 cranks that weighs 20kilos is a real bugger to ride up
    hill. I use a XC bike for that ;o)

    As a sport, I'd say it's more about sprint/strength than the
    more traditional cycling and it's focus on stamina, hence
    the fact that Mr Garcia enjoys a beer or three between each
    days racing, there's not such a focus on fitness, although
    it's getting more competetive. One of the real benefits of
    it is that at the moment it's quite fashionable for kids to
    get a tough bike and take it downhill, meaning that they're
    getting out and actually exercising, and on a bike! so it's
    good for that...

    Of course I'm happy to take all the abuse about DH not being
    proper biking... or indeed will answer any sensible
    questions posed.

    AndyC

    Aston Hill regular.

  6. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Richard

    Goodman (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see
    Cannondale doing a one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel
    Paulissen) in the mens' cross country. Because I'd
    missed the fact that last nights programme started
    twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more
    coverage still to come? Which channel? When?

    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it.

    We'll all be rushing for a Sky 'free to view' setup now.
    They brag they have more TV channels than Freeview, but
    mostly they seem to be all the regional variations of the
    main BBC terrestrial channels.

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