Cancellara's physique

thunder said:

how do you get and keep a physique like this when you ride 20k miles a year, the guy's legs are like Theo Bos when on the track.

Yup. The guy is built like a brick [censored]. An odd build for a roadman.

Bro Deal said:

Yup. The guy is built like a brick [censored]. An odd build for a roadman.

...and very odd for a guy who rode the Tour mountains like a greyhound.

whiteboytrash said:

...and very odd for a guy who rode the Tour mountains like a greyhound.

you see, this is why I love this forum. And missed it.

Such innuendo would have you out on your [censored] on the DP.

The nickname Spartacus fits well. Give that dude a pair of sandals and a sword.

Bro Deal said:

The nickname Spartacus fits well. Give that dude a pair of sandals and a sword.

the most absurd ride was in last years Tour of Switzerland when he broke away in the last kilometres of a stage. It looked like he was on a motorbike, and the peloton were a bunch of juniors.

I think the Norwegian Boason Hagen did the same thing in l'Avenir a few years ago.

There will always be guys who are head and shoulders above the competition even in a clean sport, but you can see [censored] when you see it. Someone can tell Steve that. I pride myself on the "know it when I see it" paradigm of picking a doper. Unlike Hombre, I ain't limited myself to non-Americans, or non-Australians. I am an equal opportunity doping McCarthiest.

I saw him at the Worlds in 05. Big boy. I reckon he has fined down a bit since then.

thunder said:

how do you get and keep a physique like this when you ride 20k miles a year, the guy's legs are like Theo Bos when on the track.

Apparently all you have to do is more stretching. Stretching is the key to bigger legs and better TT times. I know this cos that is what the man said on the telly and in the interviewz.

In mitigation Cancellara was a class act as a junior, underage rider.
His pedigree as a talent is unquestioned.

However like WBT says, his climbing during last years TDF was phenomenal.
For a "roadman" to be able to climb the way he did, was exceptional in my opinion.
Reminded me of Hincapie in 2005.

Unlike Hincapie though, Canc had a stellar junior/underage career.

limerickman said:

In mitigation Cancellara was a class act as a junior, underage rider.
His pedigree as a talent is unquestioned.

However like WBT says, his climbing during last years TDF was phenomenal.
For a "roadman" to be able to climb the way he did, was exceptional in my opinion.
Reminded me of Hincapie in 2005.

Unlike Hincapie though, Canc had a stellar junior/underage career.

but they start em young. L'Hotellerie, Ricco, Sevilla, noted jnr dopers, don't see why Cancellara any different.

Proof is, the phenomenal tt in the second world jnr champs he won. Average time was faster than Ullrich's winning time.

Ofcourse, different day, different pro rated climbing ratio, lesser distance.

Hincapie was a gun junior.

classic1 said:

Hincapie was a gun junior.

so was Roulston

thunder said:

but they start em young. L'Hotellerie, Ricco, Sevilla, noted jnr dopers, don't see why Cancellara any different.

Proof is, the phenomenal tt in the second world jnr champs he won. Average time was faster than Ullrich's winning time.

Ofcourse, different day, different pro rated climbing ratio, lesser distance.

Junior world TT champion 98 and 99 and second in the u23 world TT's in 2000.
Palmares at Mapei/Fasso and then CSC is pretty impressive.
Squinzi (Mapei) reckoned that Cancellara was going to be a future GT champion.

I do take your point though.

classic1 said:

Hincapie was a gun junior.

Hincapie was a good junior rider by US cycling standards.

He was not a ggod junior rider by European/World standards though.

whiteboytrash said:

...and very odd for a guy who rode the Tour mountains like a greyhound.

ssd

limerickman said:

Hincapie was a good junior rider by US cycling standards.

He was not a ggod junior rider by European/World standards though.

That's BS, he was a good junior rider by any standard. He was one of the top junior's in the world in 1990-91 and the favorite going into the 1991 junior world's in pursuit and the RR. Just because he didn't race primarily in Europe as a junior doesn't mean he couldn't hang. He's probably the best junior the US produced other than LeMond and now possibly Phinney. Whatever you think of Hincapie, he isn't a johnny come lately who finds his form at age 30.

fscyclist said:

That's BS, he was a good junior rider by any standard. He was one of the top junior's in the world in 1990-91 and the favorite going into the 1991 junior world's in pursuit and the RR. Just because he didn't race primarily in Europe as a junior doesn't mean he couldn't hang. He's probably the best junior the US produced other than LeMond and now possibly Phinney. Whatever you think of Hincapie, he isn't a johnny come lately who finds his form at age 30.

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fscyclist said:

That's BS, he was a good junior rider by any standard. He was one of the top junior's in the world in 1990-91 and the favorite going into the 1991 junior world's in pursuit and the RR. Just because he didn't race primarily in Europe as a junior doesn't mean he couldn't hang. He's probably the best junior the US produced other than LeMond and now possibly Phinney. Whatever you think of Hincapie, he isn't a johnny come lately who finds his form at age 30.

He sure did learn to climb well past the age of 30. Especially considering all the meat he packed onto his legs.

jimmypop said:

He sure did learn to climb well past the age of 30. Especially considering all the meat he packed onto his legs.

Alright...so he found his climbing form at age 30.

limerickman said:

Junior world TT champion 98 and 99 and second in the u23 world TT's in 2000.
Palmares at Mapei/Fasso and then CSC is pretty impressive.
Squinzi (Mapei) reckoned that Cancellara was going to be a future GT champion.

I do take your point though.

I agree Lim. I also thought he would be a GT winner. Still think he can. If Big Mig can, so can Cancellara.

See the 2002 Tour of Germany Queen stage. Cancellara was about 21, 22. He finished ahead of Basso.

Note: old 2.1 cat Tour of Germany. And also, only cat 2 climbs, perhaps cat 1. Point is, he was not shelled the first sign the road pointed uphill.

Compare to Rogers. Rogers, 10th Tour de France, and could have ridden a few spots higher is not working for Kloden.

Canc climbed better, and timetrialed better than Rogers at that age. Now you cannot compare tt class. Cancellara is one of the classiest tters I have seen. Up there with Mig. He needs to get his formula right during the Tour. No comparison between Armstrong and Cancellara in the tt. If Cancellara gets the formula right, he will put close to 4 minutes into his nearest GC rider, over 100kms.