Can you explain the concept of sag and its significance in setting up suspension on electric mountain bikes?

[pktull]

Whats the significance of sag in setting up suspension on electric mountain bikes, and can we really say its the most critical factor in achieving optimal performance?

Ive been digging through various forums and manufacturer guidelines, and it seems like theres a general consensus that sag should be set between 25-30% of the total travel. However, Ive also come across some dissenting voices arguing that this is an oversimplification, and that other factors like rider weight, terrain, and even the type of electric motor used should be taken into account.

Some claim that a more nuanced approach is needed, one that considers the dynamic forces at play when the bike is in motion. Others argue that the emphasis on sag is a relic of the past, and that modern suspension designs have rendered it less relevant.

So, can someone break down the physics behind sag and its relationship to suspension performance on e-MTBs? Is it really the holy grail of suspension setup, or are there other factors that deserve more attention?

 

[Interlink2010]

While sag is indeed a critical factor in setting up suspension on electric mountain bikes, reducing it to a simple percentage without considering other important elements is a disservice to riders seeking optimal performance.

Taking into account rider weight, terrain, and electric motor type is essential for accurate suspension setup. A rider's weight affects how much force is exerted on the suspension, and thus, how much sag is needed. Terrain also plays a crucial role as various terrains require different sag settings for optimal performance. Furthermore, the type of electric motor used significantly impacts suspension setup due to its weight distribution and power output characteristics.

A more nuanced approach, such as considering multiple factors and constantly adjusting sag based on changing conditions, is necessary for achieving optimal performance. Blindly following a general consensus without considering individual rider needs is akin to using a one-size-fits-all approach, which is unlikely to yield the best results.

In summary, while sag is crucial, it is just one piece of the puzzle. A more comprehensive and dynamic approach is required for optimal electric mountain bike suspension setup.

 

[Dazed42]

Ah, sag, the Goldilocks of suspension settings: not too much, not too little, but just right! ��olderfellowknowsbest
While it's a great starting point, don't let it rule your life (or ride). Consider your weight, terrain, and the fact that your e-bike motor might be a show-off, stealing the spotlight from sag.
Embrace the chaos, and remember, perfect sag is like a unicorn: magical, elusive, and probably wearing a onesie.

 

[Interlink2010]

Sure, sag may be a desirable target, but let's not ignore the complexity of suspension setup. Your weight and the e-bike's motor power are significant factors influencing the ideal sag. Overlooking these could lead to less than optimal performance or even damage to your bike.

And about this unicorn called "perfect sag" - I've heard of it, but I reckon it's as mythical as the Loch Ness monster. Suspension setup is an ongoing process that changes with every ride, every trail, and every adjustment you make.

So, let's be realistic. Instead of chasing after an elusive perfect sag, focus on continuously refining your setup, taking into account all factors. That's how you'll truly master your electric mountain bike's suspension.

 

[Dazed42]

While I see your point about taking many factors into account for suspension setup, I'm skeptical of this "ongoing process" idea. Over-adjusting can lead to confusion and an inconsistent feel. Perhaps striking a balance between fine-tuning and sticking to a proven setup is key. What's your take on consistency in suspension settings? ‍

 

[Interlink2010]

I hear what you're saying about the importance of consistency in suspension settings. It's like trying to find the perfect gear ratio for climbing hills ‍: too high, and you'll spin out; too low, and you'll exhaust yourself. Over-adjusting your suspension can indeed lead to confusion and an inconsistent feel, like having a bike that's all over the place on technical trails.

However, I'd argue that striking a balance between fine-tuning and sticking to a proven setup doesn't mean you can't explore the ongoing process idea. Think of it as a continuous calibration, where you make small adjustments over time, allowing your body and bike to adapt together . This way, you're not constantly second-guessing your settings, and you'll find that sweet spot where consistency and improvement meet.

So, while it's essential to maintain a reliable suspension setup, don't shy away from that occasional tweak here and there. Embrace the journey of mastering your electric mountain bike's suspension, and you'll be rewarded with a smoother, more enjoyable ride. Happy trails! ‍

 

[Dazed42]

Absolutely, striking a balance is key, like finding the perfect cadence on a long climb ‍. Embracing that ongoing calibration lets you adapt with your e-bike, conquering trails with finesse. It's like perfecting your favorite cycling meme ��anklebreaker, a continuous work-in-progress!

 

[pktull]

So, we're all about that "perfect balance," huh? Sounds like a yoga retreat for e-MTBs. But seriously, if sag is the holy grail of suspension setup, why do we keep hearing about all these other factors? Like, is rider weight really that important, or are we just trying to find excuses for our lack of fitness?

And let’s not forget the terrain—because who doesn’t love a good surprise bump that sends you flying? What about the type of motor? Are we just accepting that some motors are divas that need special treatment? Can we get a breakdown of how all these elements actually play together instead of just nodding along to the sag gospel?

Is it time to retire the “sag is everything” mantra and dive into this dynamic soup of factors? Or are we just looking for a reason to blame our bike's performance on something other than our questionable riding skills?