My Centaur shifters (10 speed) were working perfectly normaly up until this morning's ride, When I satrted to shift this morning, instead of the usual click-click as I shift my right hand shifter shifted quietly and smoothly (in a bad-no feedback sort of way), almost as if some elves had snuck into the shop and rounded off some gear teeth. The shifts still hold; no gear slipage, but the jack of a ratcheting feel has me concerned---plus the lack of feedback means I have to pay more attention to shifting. Interestingly, I still get a ratchet sound when the levers return anter I've pushed them; its the "push" phase that's eirily/ distressingly/ oddly silent.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
I have brand new Centaur 10 speed(about 400 miles). My right hand shifter never had a ratcheting feel. I only get a click when I shift to the next bigger cog. I do not feel any feedback in the lever when it returns back to the starting position. In other words, some feel until it indexes, then smooth feel back.
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My Centaur shifters (10 speed) were working perfectly normaly up until this morning's ride, When I satrted to shift this morning, instead of the usual click-click as I shift my right hand shifter shifted quietly and smoothly (in a bad-no feedback sort of way), almost as if some elves had snuck into the shop and rounded off some gear teeth. The shifts still hold; no gear slipage, but the jack of a ratcheting feel has me concerned---plus the lack of feedback means I have to pay more attention to shifting. Interestingly, I still get a ratchet sound when the levers return anter I've pushed them; its the "push" phase that's eirily/ distressingly/ oddly silent.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Eric Douglas
This may be similar to mine, last year. My thumb shift lever would fall away, no resistance, and no shift, part of the time. The lever behind the brake lever worked normally, as I recall, and the bike would stay in gear. One small drop of oil was required on each end of the pivot pin for the pawl that pushes the gear wheel when the thumb button is pushed. Roll the handlebar side of the lever cover up and over the thumb button. (Don't worry, the rubber will not rip.) Oil the pivot pin, which is located near the base of the thumb lever. Roll the rubber back into position. That's all. __o Keep on Ridin' `\ < (*)/(*) *********************************************** * Al Williams [email hidden] * * San Jose CA Chief Cyclist, DNRC * ***********************************************
The change in the shifting happened sudddenly; one day it was clicking away, the first thing next ride, no clicks.
When I push the right-hand shifter levers I get no clicks--no sound at all. The shifting itself is perfectly normal--it's just the lack of positive clicks creates a feedback/ interface problem.
The change in the shifting happened sudddenly; one day it was clicking away, the first thing next ride, no clicks.
When I push the right-hand shifter levers I get no clicks--no sound at all. The shifting itself is perfectly normal--it's just the lack of positive clicks creates a feedback/ interface problem.
The sound naturally quitens as the parts wear in. It's not a problem when you can still *feel* the clicks through your fingers/thumbs. You will get used to it as long as the indexing hasn't actually softened too much and you can feel the index stops.
But if it's worse than that, the spring carrier may be broken. Worn springs can also cause the symptoms but usually more gradually. (The Ergo is able to ratchet even when no clicks can be felt at all).
Same thing happened to mine. It's the detent springs giving out in the ratchet mechanism. It will keep working for a while, but you will eventually loose all indexing. You need to get some new springs in there.
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The change in the shifting happened sudddenly; one day it was clicking away, the first thing next ride, no clicks.
When I push the right-hand shifter levers I get no clicks--no sound at all. The shifting itself is perfectly normal--it's just the lack of positive clicks creates a feedback/ interface problem.
My Centaur shifters (10 speed) were working perfectly normaly up until this morning's ride, When I satrted to shift this morning, instead of the usual click-click as I shift my right hand shifter shifted quietly and smoothly (in a bad-no feedback sort of way), almost as if some elves had snuck into the shop and rounded off some gear teeth. The shifts still hold; no gear slipage, but the jack of a ratcheting feel has me concerned---plus the lack of feedback means I have to pay more attention to shifting. Interestingly, I still get a ratchet sound when the levers return anter I've pushed them; its the "push" phase that's eirily/ distressingly/ oddly silent.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
Is this something that someone who is comfortable getting into the guts of a bike might attempt or is it best left to the more experienced? I usually try to do my own repairs but I'm quite wary of components involving springs and tension. In my experience small parts end up flying off in all directions sometimes never to be recovered.
Also, if I choose to attempt the repair myself, where might I procure the parts?
There's a bunch of references on the web how to rebuild, review them and then decide. First time is frustrating, from then on, goes pretty quickly.
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You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
Is this something that someone who is comfortable getting into the guts of a bike might attempt or is it best left to the more experienced? I usually try to do my own repairs but I'm quite wary of components involving springs and tension. In my experience small parts end up flying off in all directions sometimes never to be recovered.
Also, if I choose to attempt the repair myself, where might I procure the parts?
You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
Is this something that someone who is comfortable getting into the guts of a bike might attempt or is it best left to the more experienced? I usually try to do my own repairs but I'm quite wary of components involving springs and tension. In my experience small parts end up flying off in all directions sometimes never to be recovered.
Also, if I choose to attempt the repair myself, where might I procure the parts?
Taking it apart is easy, reassmbly, particularly when getting the flat spring in place properly, can be challenging. We have all small parts, BTW
You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
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Is this something that someone who is comfortable getting into the guts of a bike might attempt or is it best left to the more experienced? I usually try to do my own repairs but I'm quite wary of components involving springs and tension. In my experience small parts end up flying off in all directions sometimes never to be recovered.
Also, if I choose to attempt the repair myself, where might I procure the parts?
You either broke/split the spring carrier(EC-RE-111) or one of the springs. Easy to fix anywhere that 'qui si parla Campagnolo' If none, send it to me for a 1 day turnaround
Is this something that someone who is comfortable getting into the guts of a bike might attempt or is it best left to the more experienced? I usually try to do my own repairs but I'm quite wary of components involving springs and tension. In my experience small parts end up flying off in all directions sometimes never to be recovered.
Also, if I choose to attempt the repair myself, where might I procure the parts?
I replaced the Ergo body on my 2003 Centaur shifter a few weeks ago. Took 2.5 hours. I used the manuals and descriptions shown on Mr. Muzi's website. There are not that many small parts. Hardest part was trying to get the center bushing to slip over the flats on the center rod. One of the springs rides against the center rod so its challenging to force the sporing aside for the bushing to slip into its very specific spot. My rebuild was on the left lever. Right may be a bit more challenging. But I will be taking apart my Chorus right lever in a few weeks to see if anything needs replacing. I bought the Ergo body from Branford Bike. After reassembling everything I discovered I was missing a finger lever return spring. My local bike shop was able to get it from QBP in a week.
