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  1. On our club ride today I was commenting on one of my riding partners
    bike "gruppo". I asked him how much he had paid for his Campy "Record"
    gruppo. He, not being a native speaker of English but pretty sharp when
    it involves English grammer, told me I had used the verb form of the
    word "Record" and not the noun form. He asked me what the correct
    pronunciation was. I couldn't tell him as I don't know how the Italians
    say it. So which is it, "Record" as in world record" or "Record" as in
    record a video?"

    Kenny

  2. Kenny Lee said:

    On our club ride today I was commenting on one of my riding partners
    bike "gruppo". I asked him how much he had paid for his Campy
    "Record" gruppo. He, not being a native speaker of English but
    pretty sharp when it involves English grammer, told me I had used
    the verb form of the word "Record" and not the noun form. He asked
    me what the correct pronunciation was. I couldn't tell him as I
    don't know how the Italians say it. So which is it, "Record" as in
    world record" or "Record" as in record a video?"

    In Italian the accent falls on the second syllable but "record" not
    ending in a vowel is obviously a foreign word and is understandable in
    either pronunciation by Italians who are accustomed to these
    differences from neighbor countries as are most Europeans. I think he
    is putting you on.

    Meanwhile:

    Some reasons to be grateful if you grew up speaking English:
    1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
    2) The farm was used to produce produce.
    3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
    4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
    5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
    6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
    7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time
    to present the present.
    8) At the Army base, a bass was painted on the head of a bass drum.
    9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
    10) I did not object to the object.
    11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
    12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
    13) They were too close to the door to close it.
    14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
    15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
    16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
    17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
    18) After a number of Novocaine injections, my jaw got number.
    19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
    20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
    21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
    22) I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
    23) There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple
    nor pine in pineapple.
    24) English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in
    France.
    25) Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are
    meat.
    26) Quicksand works slowly; boxing rings are square; and a guinea pig
    is not from Guinea nor is it a pig.
    27) And why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing,
    grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?
    28) If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth
    beeth?
    29) One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese?
    30) Doesn't it seem crazy you can make amends but not one amend.
    31) If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one
    of them, what do you call it? Is it an odd, or an end?
    32) If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?
    33) If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
    34) In what language do people recite at a play and play at a
    recital?
    35) Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?
    36) Drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
    37) Have noses that run and feet that smell?
    38) How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise
    man and a wise guy are opposites?
    39) You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which
    your house can burn up, as it burns down, in which you fill in a
    form by filling it out, and in which, an alarm goes off by going
    on.
    40) English was invented by people, not computers; and it reflects
    the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race
    at all.
    41) He didn't bother to record when the record was set.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  3. Quoted message said:

    In Italian the accent falls on the second syllable but "record" not
    ending in a vowel is obviously a foreign word and is understandable in
    either pronunciation by Italians who are accustomed to these
    differences from neighbor countries as are most Europeans.

    Very informative. Thanks as usual.
    Kenny

  4. Quoted message said:
    Kenny Lee said:

    On our club ride today I was commenting on one of my riding partners
    bike "gruppo". I asked him how much he had paid for his Campy
    "Record" gruppo. He, not being a native speaker of English but
    pretty sharp when it involves English grammer, told me I had used
    the verb form of the word "Record" and not the noun form. He asked
    me what the correct pronunciation was. I couldn't tell him as I
    don't know how the Italians say it. So which is it, "Record" as in
    world record" or "Record" as in record a video?"

    In Italian the accent falls on the second syllable but "record" not
    ending in a vowel is obviously a foreign word and is understandable in
    either pronunciation by Italians who are accustomed to these
    differences from neighbor countries as are most Europeans. I think he
    is putting you on.

    Meanwhile:

    Some reasons to be grateful if you grew up speaking English:
    1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
    2) The farm was used to produce produce.
    3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
    4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
    5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
    6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
    7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time
    to present the present.
    8) At the Army base, a bass was painted on the head of a bass drum.
    9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
    10) I did not object to the object.
    11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
    12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
    13) They were too close to the door to close it.
    14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
    15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
    16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
    17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
    18) After a number of Novocaine injections, my jaw got number.
    19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
    20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
    21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
    22) I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
    23) There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple
    nor pine in pineapple.
    24) English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in
    France.
    25) Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are
    meat.
    26) Quicksand works slowly; boxing rings are square; and a guinea pig
    is not from Guinea nor is it a pig.
    27) And why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing,
    grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?
    28) If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth
    beeth?
    29) One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese?
    30) Doesn't it seem crazy you can make amends but not one amend.
    31) If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one
    of them, what do you call it? Is it an odd, or an end?
    32) If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?
    33) If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
    34) In what language do people recite at a play and play at a
    recital?
    35) Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?
    36) Drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
    37) Have noses that run and feet that smell?
    38) How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise
    man and a wise guy are opposites?
    39) You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which
    your house can burn up, as it burns down, in which you fill in a
    form by filling it out, and in which, an alarm goes off by going
    on.
    40) English was invented by people, not computers; and it reflects
    the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race
    at all.
    41) He didn't bother to record when the record was set.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]


    How about they're waiting there for their turn.
    This language could drive a foreigner up a wall.
    Of course in French every thing has to have a sex.
    Is it le table or la table?
    Bill Baka

  5. Bill Baka said:

    How about they're waiting there for their
    turn. This language could drive a
    foreigner up a wall. Of course in French
    every thing has to have a sex. Is it le
    table or la table?
    Bill Baka

    Worse, while we only have to deal with silent letters, while the French
    have silent syllables! Ever visit Cannes (pronounced "Can"😉?

    - -

    "May you have the winds at your back,
    And a really low gear for the hils!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  6. Bill Baka said:

    How about:

    Quoted message said:

    They're waiting there for their turn.

    That's nice and terse. I added it to the list. Thanks,

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:

    How about:

    Quoted message said:

    They're waiting there for their turn.

    That's nice and terse. I added it to the list. Thanks,

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

    There is a sentence wher you can use the word "that" in five different
    conjunctions, but I cannot remember it.....

    BTW

    Love that list Herr Doctor...🙂

  8. H M Leary said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:

    How about:

    Quoted message said:

    They're waiting there for their turn.

    That's nice and terse. I added it to the list. Thanks,

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

    There is a sentence wher you can use the word "that" in five different
    conjunctions, but I cannot remember it.....

    BTW

    Love that list Herr Doctor...🙂

    He said that it was that "that" that that man used.

  9. Quoted message said:

    41) He didn't bother to record when the record was set.


    I read 'Red Reed'. Did you read it already? Our club is all
    ready to read it.

  10. Neil Brooks said:
    H M Leary said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Bill Baka writes:

    > How about:

    > They're waiting there for their turn.

    That's nice and terse. I added it to the list. Thanks,

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

    There is a sentence wher you can use the word "that" in five different
    conjunctions, but I cannot remember it.....

    BTW

    Love that list Herr Doctor...🙂

    He said that it was that "that" that that man used.

    God help the stutterer.

    Ron

  11. "H M Leary" wrote

    Quoted message said:


    There is a sentence wher you can use the word "that" in five different
    conjunctions, but I cannot remember it.....

    How about this one for stacking words: On the exam, Jack, where Jill had had
    "had had" had had "had". "Had had" had had the teacher's approval.

    Sorry to be so completely OT.

  12. "RonSonic" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:30:15 GMT, "Neil Brooks" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    H M Leary said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] wrote:

    > Bill Baka writes:
    >
    >> How about:
    >
    >> They're waiting there for their turn.
    >
    > That's nice and terse. I added it to the list. Thanks,
    >
    > Jobst Brandt
    > [email hidden]

    There is a sentence wher you can use the word "that" in five different
    conjunctions, but I cannot remember it.....

    BTW

    Love that list Herr Doctor...🙂

    He said that it was that "that" that that man used.

    God help the stutterer.

    Ron

    Well, there is a "record" useage sentence too.
    The record man wanted to record a music record, but he had trouble with the
    record player while trying to record a record inside the recording studio
    located on 34 Record Street..

    The verb usage is pronounced with emphasis on the "or" but not in the noun
    usage.

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