Campy Cage Assembly Replacement

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They have a technical section describing the complete replacement of
pulley cages. Wait for Peter, Sheldon, etc to confirm (or look at the
parts catalog on the Campy site), but the cage plates ought to be
interchangable.

IanD said:

Trying again... my first attempt came back with an erorr - sorry if it
got thru. Anyhow, I damaged the long cage of 03 record rear
derailleur. I am planning on getting it replaced and hopefully I could
do it myself. First off is it possible though to replace this damage
long cage assembly with a medium one (DP-98-37)? Also, does anyone
have instructions on performing this task ?

Thanks again,

Ian in San Diego

IanD-<< First off is it possible though to replace this damage
long cage assembly with a medium one (DP-98-37)? Also, does anyone
have instructions on performing this task ? >><BR><BR>

Esy to do and yes the assembly is available very expensive. In the $90 range
for the whole thing-Rd-RE-502, all of everything including pulleys, bolts, the
whole smear.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

I'd either buy a lesser campy model, use it as is or move the cage to your
older derail. The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.

"Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

IanD-<< First off is it possible though to replace this damage
long cage assembly with a medium one (DP-98-37)? Also, does anyone
have instructions on performing this task ? >><BR><BR>

Esy to do and yes the assembly is available very expensive. In the $90

range

Quoted message said:

for the whole thing-Rd-RE-502, all of everything including pulleys, bolts,

the

Quoted message said:

whole smear.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

wannagofast said:

I'd either buy a lesser campy model, use it as is or move the cage to your
older derail. The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.

About the only difference between Campy Chorus and Campy Centaur is
that the Chorus slant-parallelogram has a hole drilled to lighten the
upper shoulder (where campy used to print things like "Pat. 86", etc.)
and the Centaur is solid - and heavier.

You should be able to buy a centaur derailleur and move the
parallelogram over. However, the medium-cage parallelogram may not
work on a long-cage body, as the spare parts manual says that
short/medium and long are not interchangeable.

They would say this if the angle of the parallelogram was more slanted
for the long-cage derailleur / bigger cassettes. Oddly, though, the
rear tooth capacity on all 3 derailleurs (record, chorus, centaur) is
the same (29T) and so I don't know why they make this claim. Maybe
the springs must be changed too, or something like that.

After doing the swap, you could sell the leftover carcas on ebay for
big $$$ ... :-) :-)

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

wannagofast said:

I'd either buy a lesser campy model, use it as is or move the cage to your
older derail. The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.

About the only difference between Campy Chorus and Campy Centaur is
that the Chorus slant-parallelogram has a hole drilled to lighten the
upper shoulder (where campy used to print things like "Pat. 86", etc.)
and the Centaur is solid - and heavier.

You should be able to buy a centaur derailleur and move the
parallelogram over. However, the medium-cage parallelogram may not
work on a long-cage body, as the spare parts manual says that
short/medium and long are not interchangeable.

They would say this if the angle of the parallelogram was more slanted
for the long-cage derailleur / bigger cassettes. Oddly, though, the
rear tooth capacity on all 3 derailleurs (record, chorus, centaur) is
the same (29T) and so I don't know why they make this claim. Maybe
the springs must be changed too, or something like that.

After doing the swap, you could sell the leftover carcas on ebay for
big $$$ ... :-) :-)

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

wannagofast said:

I'd either buy a lesser campy model, use it as is or move the cage to your
older derail. The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.

About the only difference between Campy Chorus and Campy Centaur is
that the Chorus slant-parallelogram has a hole drilled to lighten the
upper shoulder (where campy used to print things like "Pat. 86", etc.)
and the Centaur is solid - and heavier.

You should be able to buy a centaur derailleur and move the
parallelogram over. However, the medium-cage parallelogram may not
work on a long-cage body, as the spare parts manual says that
short/medium and long are not interchangeable.

They would say this if the angle of the parallelogram was more slanted
for the long-cage derailleur / bigger cassettes. Oddly, though, the
rear tooth capacity on all 3 derailleurs (record, chorus, centaur) is
the same (29T) and so I don't know why they make this claim. Maybe
the springs must be changed too, or something like that.

After doing the swap, you could sell the leftover carcas on ebay for
big $$$ ... :-) :-)

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

wannagofast said:

I'd either buy a lesser campy model, use it as is or move the cage to your
older derail. The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.

About the only difference between Campy Chorus and Campy Centaur is
that the Chorus slant-parallelogram has a hole drilled to lighten the
upper shoulder (where campy used to print things like "Pat. 86", etc.)
and the Centaur is solid - and heavier.

You should be able to buy a centaur derailleur and move the
parallelogram over. However, the medium-cage parallelogram may not
work on a long-cage body, as the spare parts manual says that
short/medium and long are not interchangeable.

They would say this if the angle of the parallelogram was more slanted
for the long-cage derailleur / bigger cassettes. Oddly, though, the
rear tooth capacity on all 3 derailleurs (record, chorus, centaur) is
the same (29T) and so I don't know why they make this claim. Maybe
the springs must be changed too, or something like that.

After doing the swap, you could sell the leftover carcas on ebay for
big $$$ ... :-) :-)

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

wanna writes-"<< The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.
">><BR><BR>

Call shimano usa and price a similar part for a DA rear der....ooops, not even
available."

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

(Qui si parla Campagnolo ) said:

wanna writes-"<< The price of major parts, often makes it cheaper or better to
replace entirely, removing some of the argument of Campy over Shimano.
">><BR><BR>

Quoted message said:

Call shimano usa and price a similar part for a DA rear der....ooops, not even
available."

I recently bought some missing parts for a 1995-6 chorus brakeset that
i got in used condition w/o some parts. First, there is no such thing
as "part available from campagnolo usa", according to the local bike
shop. they had to get it from an independent "campagnolo parts
dealer". "campagnolo usa" does not stock "parts."

then, a piece of critical plastic, to hold the derailleur spring in
place, which is a 2c molding, was charged out to me at $10.00 by LBS.
the cable stop, a piece from dia-compe that is $0.50, was charged out
to me at $15.00 by LBS.

Is my LBS filled with crooks ?? I don't think so.
I think it's more likely that Campagnolo or someone in the supply
chain is very, very greedy.

Campy may stock spare parts for their stuff, but the markup on these
parts is a ridiculous 500%, which is not what i remember seeing in the
bike nashbar catalogues of the 1970's. I remember in those catalogues
that you could build a derailleur from parts for about 200% of the
cost of a retail derailleur, e.g. a 200% markup on spares, not 500%!

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Gillies writes-<< " First, there is no such thing
as "part available from campagnolo usa", according to the local bike
shop. they had to get it from an independent "campagnolo parts
dealer". "campagnolo usa" does not stock "parts." >><BR><BR>

I answered-"Not true, we get small parts from Campagnolo all the time. We are a
'Worldwide proshop' shop but we can get things from them."

"markup is normally related to what they cost the supplier. It is not 500%."

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"