Campy 8-speed FREEWHEEL???

In article <[email hidden]>, Bruce Gilbert

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Someone asked me to rebuild a wheelset for them. Over the phone they said they had 8 speed Campy
with a freewheel. They said the bike has ergo shifters, from the mid 90's, but has a freewheel
cluster. I never knew about that being made.

Is anyone out there familiar with a setup like that? I have not seen the bike yet, he may be wrong.
I hope so....

Could be a Sachs 8-speed freewheel. Would work fine with Campy 8.

--Paul

Bruce Gilbert said:

Someone asked me to rebuild a wheelset for them. Over the phone they said they had 8 speed Campy
with a freewheel. They said the bike has ergo shifters, from the mid 90's, but has a freewheel
cluster. I never knew about that being made.

Is anyone out there familiar with a setup like that? I have not seen the bike yet, he may be
wrong. I hope so....

Yup. I have seen both Mavic hubs and Sachs New Success hubs with 8 speed Sachs freewheels and Campy
8 speed shifting. I have personally used the Syncro II 8 speed shifting with Sach 8 12x24 freewheel
on an American Classic hub and it worked pretty well actually.

Good Luck!

Terry

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Thanks,

Bruce

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Quoted message said:

Someone asked me to rebuild a wheelset for them. Over the phone they said they had 8 speed Campy
with a freewheel. They said the bike has ergo shifters, from the mid 90's, but has a freewheel
cluster. I never knew

about

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that being made.

Is anyone out there familiar with a setup like that? I have not seen the bike yet, he may be
wrong. I hope so....

Thanks,

Bruce

Yeah, but I used to use the Sachs version of the Ergos with a NS rear derailleur and either a
Shimano 8sp cassette or a Sachs FW.

If it works now, if you re-build the wheel as either a FW or 8sp cassette, it should still work...

Mike

Bruce Gilbert said:

Someone asked me to rebuild a wheelset for them. Over the phone they said they had 8 speed Campy
with a freewheel. They said the bike has ergo shifters, from the mid 90's, but has a freewheel
cluster. I never knew about that being made.

Is anyone out there familiar with a setup like that? I have not seen the bike yet, he may be
wrong. I hope so....

A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup
in the era.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Thanks everyone for your excellent input.

When I see the bike I will let you know exactly what is there.

Bruce

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Bruce Gilbert said:

Someone asked me to rebuild a wheelset for them. Over the phone they

said

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they had 8 speed Campy with a freewheel. They said the bike has ergo shifters, from the mid
90's, but has a freewheel cluster. I never knew

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that being made.

Is anyone out there familiar with a setup like that? I have not seen the bike yet, he may be
wrong. I hope so....

A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup in
the era.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup
in the era.

Sachs FWs were made in both Shimano and Campy spacing. Phil Brown

Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup in
the era.

Sachs FWs were made in both Shimano and Campy spacing.

That might be true, but I've never seen a Shimano-spaced 8-speed Sachs freewheel (and I've
looked for them). None of my suppliers ever offered one, and I never saw one in the Sachs
catalogs of the day.

Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
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Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup in
the era.

Sachs FWs were made in both Shimano and Campy spacing.

That might be true, but I've never seen a Shimano-spaced 8-speed Sachs freewheel (and I've looked
for them). None of my suppliers ever offered one, and I never saw one in the Sachs catalogs of
the day.

I thought Sachs FWs were Sachs FWs. You got what they made... and it was spaced for Sachs shifters
(that just happened to be Campy compatible.)

I ran a lot of these guys over the years, they were all the same...

Mike

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Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
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Unless you use a Sachs rear hub, you have to spend a lot of time replacing Campy axels when they
break. Until I got a Sachs hub, I was replacing bent and broken axels twice a year. The cheapest fix
is to use an Ultegra wheel with an 8 speed Shimano cassette with the Wheels Mfg red spacer kit. If
you rebuild the original, he'll be stuck when some cogs wear out on the Sachs freewheel. They are
very hard to get.

Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup in
the era.

Sachs FWs were made in both Shimano and Campy spacing. Phil Brown

I'd heard that, too. I bought some of those freewheels years ago, and made no mention to the people
I bought them from what kind of shifter I had. Actually, I had friction when I started. But they did
work fine with 8-speed Ergo shifters and a Campy derailleur. There was not that much difference in
spacing between the Campy and Shimano 8-speed, (0.2mm difference, roughly the same as between Campy
and Shimano 9-speed versions), so probably you can use either.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass. _`\(,_ | What are you on?"
--Lance Armstrong (_)/ (_) |

I was under the impression that when Sachs first came out with their 8 speed freewheel, it was with
Shimano spacing and had black spacers. The later models had brown spacers and were spaced the same
as Campy.(5 mm) The Sachs Hub was a great hub. The axel was covered from the threads on the hub to
the locknut to help support the extra weight it carried.

Mike S. said:

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Phil Brown said:

>A Sachs Eight freewheel over a Campagnolo threaded hub with pointy ergos was a common setup in
>the era.

Sachs FWs were made in both Shimano and Campy spacing.

That might be true, but I've never seen a Shimano-spaced 8-speed Sachs freewheel (and I've looked
for them). None of my suppliers ever offered one, and I never saw one in the Sachs catalogs of
the day.

I thought Sachs FWs were Sachs FWs. You got what they made... and it was spaced for Sachs shifters
(that just happened to be Campy compatible.)

I ran a lot of these guys over the years, they were all the same...

Sachs Ergos were made by Campagnolo with an insert for Shimano or Sachs rear changers.

Campagnolo Ergos won't shift a Sachs rear changer without modification.

I can't say we were ever able to find Campagnolo-spaced Sachs freeewheels aftermarket. They came on
new bikes and we sold reworked freewheels with the old spacers refitted when they were worn (
couldn't get reliable delivery on individual cogs)

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971