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  1. "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed from a
    number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many more
    things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one tour. Be
    careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading yourself, or
    filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember this.

    Ammon'd opodeldoc. Fishing-tackle. Paper.
    Axe (in cover). Flour (prepared). " collars.
    Axle-grease. Frying-pan. Pens.
    Bacon. Guide-book. Pepper.
    Barometer (pocket). Half-barrel. Pickles.
    Bean-pot. Halter. Pins.
    Beans (in bag). Hammer. Portfolio.
    Beef (dried). Hard-bread. Postage stamps.
    Beeswax. Harness (examine!). Postal cards.
    Bible. Hatchet. Rope.
    Blacking and brush. Haversack. Rubber blanket.
    Blankets. Ink (portable bottle). " coat.
    Boxes. Knives (sheath, table, " boots.
    Bread for lunch. pocket and butcher.) Sail-needle.
    Brogans (oiled). Lemons. Salt.
    Broom. Liniment. " fish.
    Butter-dish and cover. Lunch for day or two. " pork.
    Canned goods. Maps. Salve.
    Chalk. Matches and safe. Saw.
    Cheese. Marline. Shingles (for plates).
    Clothes-brush. Meal (in bag). Shirts.
    Cod-line. Meal-bag (see p. 32). Shoes and strings.
    Coffee and pot. Medicines. Slippers.
    Comb. Milk-can. Soap.
    Compass. Molasses. Song-book.
    Condensed milk. Money ("change"😉. Spade.
    Cups. Monkey-wrench. Spoons.
    Currycomb. Mosquito-bar. Stove (utensils in bags).
    Dates. Mustard and pot. Sugar.
    Dippers. Nails. Tea.
    Dishes. Neat's-foot oil. Tents.
    Dish-towels. Night-shirt. " poles.
    Drawers. Oatmeal. " pins.
    Dried fruits. Oil-can. Tooth-brush.
    Dutch oven. Opera-glass. Towels.
    Envelopes. Overcoat. Twine.
    Figs. Padlock and key. Vinegar.
    Firkin (see p. 48). Pails Watch and key.

    What!
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17575/17575-h/17575-h.htm

    Bryan
    Dorzet

  2. It gets better
    "DRAWERS. If you wear drawers, better turn them inside out, so that the
    seams may not chafe you. They must be loose."

    Mind boggling time

    Bryan
    Dorzet

  3. On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:55:34 GMT, "Bryan Hall"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |"For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed from a
    |number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    |horseback-riding.

    There are another 17,000 books on Gutenburg.
    Well worth a look, but then I am biased.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  4. Bryan Hall said:

    It gets better
    "DRAWERS. If you wear drawers, better turn them inside out, so that the
    seams may not chafe you. They must be loose."

    Mind boggling time

    "You can send home by mail or express your soiled underclothes that
    are too good to lose or to be washed by your unskilled hands."

    Yet more boggling.
    --
    Let us have a moment of silence for all Americans who
    are now stuck in traffic on their way to a health club
    to ride a stationary bicycle. -
    Congressman Earl Blumenauer (Oregon)

  5. Dave Fawthrop said:

    There are another 17,000 books on Gutenburg.
    Well worth a look, but then I am biased.

    Try these for some ancient accounts of Wales;

    Wild Wales by George Borrow, 1862
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext96/wwals10.txt

    Baldwin's Itinerary Through Wales by Giraldus Cambrensis, 1191
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/itwls10.txt

    Description of Wales by Giraldus Cambrensis, 1194
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/dscwl10.txt

    Paul

  6. Bryan Hall said:

    Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg
    13]overloading yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage.
    Be sure to remember this.

    Thanks, just the thing to help with my lightweight camping. ;-)

    Musn't forget the axle grease, oiled brogans, monkey wrench and firkin.

    Paul

  7. Paul Saunders said:
    Quoted message said:

    Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg
    13]overloading yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage.
    Be sure to remember this.

    Thanks, just the thing to help with my lightweight camping. ;-)

    Musn't forget the axle grease, oiled brogans, monkey wrench

    Quoted message said:

    and firkin.

    Titanium?

    Judith

  8. "Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:

    "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed from
    a number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many
    more things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one
    tour. Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading
    yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember
    this.

    snip list

    Quoted message said:

    Dutch oven.

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  9. I always remember the firkin

    Firkin this, firkin that

    ;-)

    "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Bryan Hall said:

    Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg
    13]overloading yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage.
    Be sure to remember this.

    Thanks, just the thing to help with my lightweight camping. ;-)

    Musn't forget the axle grease, oiled brogans, monkey wrench and firkin.

    Paul

  10. Ahah! Dried fruit! Well, there's a sop to the Victorian Health Foodies!
    Seems quite a basic list to me.What's happened to the case of Chateau
    Latour, a bottle or two of Port, the odd Aspidistra for ambience, and a box
    of cigars?

    Robert

    "Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed from
    a number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many
    more things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one
    tour. Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading
    yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember
    this.

    Ammon'd opodeldoc. Fishing-tackle. Paper.
    Axe (in cover). Flour (prepared). " collars.
    Axle-grease. Frying-pan. Pens.
    Bacon. Guide-book. Pepper.
    Barometer (pocket). Half-barrel. Pickles.
    Bean-pot. Halter. Pins.
    Beans (in bag). Hammer. Portfolio.
    Beef (dried). Hard-bread. Postage stamps.
    Beeswax. Harness (examine!). Postal cards.
    Bible. Hatchet. Rope.
    Blacking and brush. Haversack. Rubber blanket.
    Blankets. Ink (portable bottle). " coat.
    Boxes. Knives (sheath, table, " boots.
    Bread for lunch. pocket and butcher.) Sail-needle.
    Brogans (oiled). Lemons. Salt.
    Broom. Liniment. " fish.
    Butter-dish and cover. Lunch for day or two. " pork.
    Canned goods. Maps. Salve.
    Chalk. Matches and safe. Saw.
    Cheese. Marline. Shingles (for plates).
    Clothes-brush. Meal (in bag). Shirts.
    Cod-line. Meal-bag (see p. 32). Shoes and strings.
    Coffee and pot. Medicines. Slippers.
    Comb. Milk-can. Soap.
    Compass. Molasses. Song-book.
    Condensed milk. Money ("change"😉. Spade.
    Cups. Monkey-wrench. Spoons.
    Currycomb. Mosquito-bar. Stove (utensils in bags).
    Dates. Mustard and pot. Sugar.
    Dippers. Nails. Tea.
    Dishes. Neat's-foot oil. Tents.
    Dish-towels. Night-shirt. " poles.
    Drawers. Oatmeal. " pins.
    Dried fruits. Oil-can. Tooth-brush.
    Dutch oven. Opera-glass. Towels.
    Envelopes. Overcoat. Twine.
    Figs. Padlock and key. Vinegar.
    Firkin (see p. 48). Pails Watch and key.

    What!
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17575/17575-h/17575-h.htm

    Bryan
    Dorzet

  11. On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:01:15 +0100, "theo" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |
    |"Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    |news:[email hidden]...
    |> "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed from
    |> a number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    |> horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many
    |> more things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one
    |> tour. Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading
    |> yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember
    |> this.
    |
    |snip list
    |
    |> Dutch oven.
    |
    |Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    It is a cooking pot which can be put on top of a fire or gas ring to use as
    an oven. I have used a large aluminium pan as a Dutch Oven while
    camping, not with much success.

    There is lots on Google, mainly American.
    http://papadutch.home.comcast.net/dutch-oven-intro.htm#Intro

    I think they may be a little heavy for the backpackers ;-)
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Please quote, with quote
    character, previous post sniped to only the bit you are replying to.
    Threads often contain 100s of posts dozens layers deep. Other people
    use different newsreaders, they do not see or do what you see and do.

  12. The message <[email hidden]>
    from "theo" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Dutch Oven - 1. an iron or earthenware container with a cover used for
    stews, etc. 2. a metal box, open in front, for cooking in front of an
    open fire. (Collins)

    Given the camping connection I think the 2nd definition was intended.

    --
    Roger Chapman so far this year nothing

  13. Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "theo" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Dutch Oven - 1. an iron or earthenware container with a cover used for
    stews, etc. 2. a metal box, open in front, for cooking in front of an
    open fire. (Collins)

    Given the camping connection I think the 2nd definition was intended.

    Note that most newer Dutch Ovens have rounded lids while the "real" ones
    have flat lids with a rim.
    This allows coals to be piled on top of the oven and give a better heat
    distribution. Apparently it makes a big difference when using it to bake.

    I've never seen anything called a Dutch Oven that was not cast iron here in
    America.

  14. Paul Saunders said:

    Dave Fawthrop wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are another 17,000 books on Gutenburg.
    Well worth a look, but then I am biased.

    Quoted message said:

    Try these for some ancient accounts of Wales;

    Quoted message said:

    Wild Wales by George Borrow, 1862
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext96/wwals10.txt

    Quoted message said:

    Baldwin's Itinerary Through Wales by Giraldus Cambrensis, 1191
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/itwls10.txt

    Quoted message said:

    Description of Wales by Giraldus Cambrensis, 1194
    http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/dscwl10.txt

    There's an old book from the very early days of British mountaineering
    I once saw and would like to find again. All I can remember is a
    photograph of three aristocratic looking gents in tweed jackets,
    plus fours, nailed boots, and coils of hemp rope over their shoulders
    looking up at Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh and speculating that the
    ascent might take a few hours.

    Having discovered it less than an hour they classified Arthur's
    Seat as "deceptive".

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  15. "theo" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:


    "Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:

    "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed
    from a number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many
    more things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one
    tour. Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading
    yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember
    this.

    snip list

    Quoted message said:

    Dutch oven.

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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    Quoted message said:


    "Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:

    "For convenience the following list is inserted here. It is condensed
    from a number of notes made for trips of all sorts, except boating and
    horseback-riding. It is by no means exhaustive, yet there are very many
    more things named than you can possibly use to advantage upon any one
    tour. Be careful not to be led astray by it into [Pg 13]overloading
    yourself, or filling your camp with useless luggage. Be sure to remember
    this.

    snip list

    Quoted message said:

    Dutch oven.

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  17. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)


    Of course it's a pan! But it's a /big/ pan :-)
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  18. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)


    Of course it's a pan! But it's a /big/ pan :-)
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  19. "Fran" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)


    Of course it's a pan! But it's a /big/ pan :-)
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.> --

    That depends. The smallest is 8 inch (= normal size), the biggest is 16
    inch. My mother used such a pan to make a rice-recipe or erwtensoep (= split
    pea soup).

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  20. "Fran" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please describe a Dutch oven for me ?

    Thanks for the explanation, gents. I presume it's a heritage from the
    eighteenth century or so but it still looks like a pan to me :-)


    Of course it's a pan! But it's a /big/ pan :-)
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.> --

    That depends. The smallest is 8 inch (= normal size), the biggest is 16
    inch. My mother used such a pan to make a rice-recipe or erwtensoep (= split
    pea soup).

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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