Calling PEEWIGLET

Peewiglet said:

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:38:05 -0000, Darren G <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

are you using the pw.com or w.co.uk for mail?

<engages brain, does the obvious check, and the mist clears slightly>

assuming it is the latter judging by dns record?

Either will do, in fact; indecisive, you see :-)

I tried to think of a way of protecting one entirely from the
spammers, but in the end I don't suppose that's possible. I still have
my old domain, so if in a couple of years I've been swamped at the new
addresses then I'll probably just revert to it 🙂

With my email redirection service, you can set the 'catchall' address to
something invalid. You then only allow through things to a specific @
address. Then, when the spam becomes to much you just change the specific
bit before the @ to something different instead of abandoning the domain.

The pop email that is part of the hosting that I use also allows you to set
up an auto responder. When I abandon the current main address, I think I
just set up an auto responder on the old main address explaining that I
have abandoned it and pointing to a page in my website how a person can get
my current address.

I think that this does have on-topic relevance though. It must be a pain
for people who have put together a remote system that allows them to pick
up their email via a mobile phone or PDA and then have to download 50 spam
emails to get to the real email. I suspect the solution in that case would
be to have one 'super secret' email address that is never exposed to Usenet
or the web directly.

--
***My real address is m/ike at u/nmusic d/ot co dot u/k (removing /s)
np:
http://www.unmusic.co.uk
http://www.unmusic.co.uk/amh-s-faq.html - alt.music.home-studio FAQ
http://www.unmusic.co.uk/wrap.php?file=vhs.html - vhs purchase log.

Phil Cook <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Stuart said:

And you took a pop at me for posting Off Topic .....

It wasn't you personally. It was the GPS thread rearing it's head
*again* and getting combined with a punctuation rant....

In what way is GPS off topic? Repetitious, yes, but relevant to
walking.
;-)
--
Gordon Harris

Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

John Spencer-Mallory said:

Has anyone heard from the good lady lately?
Her mail address seems to have become inactive and "unknown"!!!

<bounce, bounce...>

Hello Tigger!
--
Gordon Harris

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:23:11 +0000, killermike <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

With my email redirection service, you can set the 'catchall' address to
something invalid. You then only allow through things to a specific @
address. Then, when the spam becomes to much you just change the specific
bit before the @ to something different instead of abandoning the domain. [...]

Hmm... I'm just trying to get my head round how that works in
practise. If I have adomain.com then presumably it's the equivalent
of setting Mailwasher, or similar, to delete everything that doesn't
go directly to my chosen address, e.g. [email hidden] ?

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

Gordon Harris said:

Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

John Spencer-Mallory said:

Has anyone heard from the good lady lately?
Her mail address seems to have become inactive and "unknown"!!!

<bounce, bounce...>

Hello Tigger!

:-) Tee hee... there is a Tigger here, but it's not me. Is Tigger
reading?? ;-)

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:06:46 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:23:11 +0000, killermike <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

With my email redirection service, you can set the 'catchall' address to
something invalid.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Hmm... I'm just trying to get my head round how that works in
practise. If I have adomain.com then presumably it's the equivalent
of setting Mailwasher, or similar, to delete everything that doesn't
go directly to my chosen address, e.g. [email hidden] ?

The best way to think about this is visualise it as follows

Pre-amble:

a. when you have your own domain you have pretty much carte blanche
control over how many e-mail addresses you set up/use and what they
are called.

b. you set these up in your domain hosting account via the "control
panel" that comes with your hosting package.

c. these are all set up following the same format, i.e.
- [email hidden]
- [email hidden]
- [email hidden]
(or @yourdomain.co.uk they're all considered the same in this context)

When you administer the mail boxes for your domain there are a couple
of other things that come to bear.

d. you /should/ always have a [email hidden] (lots of
things get upset if you don't ;-)

e. you have the option to set one of the email accounts as a "catch
all" so that if your domain receives e-mail for an account that does
not have an e-mail mailbox set up then that incoming mail goes into
the mailbox that has been designated the "catch all" mail box <-- this
is the route you can use to catch /some/spam.

f. you also have the option to perform action on mail coming in to
your mailboxes, i.e. hold=default; forward to your mail account with
your ISP; delete all mail received.

To-do List:

1. Make a list of the valid e-mail accounts that you want to accept
mail for

2. got to your domain control panel / mail admin section

3. set up the valid e-mail accounts, i.e. [email hidden] etc.

4a. set up a mailbox for something like [email hidden]
4b. set this mailbox to "catch all"
4c. set the mail control for this mailbox and only this mailbox to
"delete all incoming mail".

The actions in 4 will mean that any mail coming to anything other than
a valid e-mail address is binned.

Sorry, for the long (V)OTpost everyone. PW, if I can help in any other
way drop me an e-mail.

SteveO
--
NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:07:26 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Gordon Harris said:

Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:54:57 -0000, "John Spencer-Mallory"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Has anyone heard from the good lady lately?
>Her mail address seems to have become inactive and "unknown"!!!

<bounce, bounce...>

Hello Tigger!

:-) Tee hee... there is a Tigger here, but it's not me. Is Tigger
reading?? ;-)

shirley you jest???
;-)

<fx: hooohuhoooo!!>

SteveO
--
NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:42:10 +0000, SteveO wrote:

<big snip>

Many thanks! V. helpful stuff 🙂

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

In article <[email hidden]>, SteveO says...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:06:46 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:23:11 +0000, killermike <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

With my email redirection service, you can set the 'catchall' address to
something invalid.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Hmm... I'm just trying to get my head round how that works in
practise. If I have adomain.com then presumably it's the equivalent
of setting Mailwasher, or similar, to delete everything that doesn't
go directly to my chosen address, e.g. [email hidden] ?

The best way to think about this is visualise it as follows

Pre-amble:

a. when you have your own domain you have pretty much carte blanche
control over how many e-mail addresses you set up/use and what they
are called.

b. you set these up in your domain hosting account via the "control
panel" that comes with your hosting package.

c. these are all set up following the same format, i.e.
- [email hidden]
- [email hidden]
- [email hidden]
(or @yourdomain.co.uk they're all considered the same in this context)

When you administer the mail boxes for your domain there are a couple
of other things that come to bear.

d. you /should/ always have a [email hidden] (lots of
things get upset if you don't ;-)

e. you have the option to set one of the email accounts as a "catch
all" so that if your domain receives e-mail for an account that does
not have an e-mail mailbox set up then that incoming mail goes into
the mailbox that has been designated the "catch all" mail box <-- this
is the route you can use to catch /some/spam.

f. you also have the option to perform action on mail coming in to
your mailboxes, i.e. hold=default; forward to your mail account with
your ISP; delete all mail received.

To-do List:

1. Make a list of the valid e-mail accounts that you want to accept
mail for

2. got to your domain control panel / mail admin section

3. set up the valid e-mail accounts, i.e. [email hidden] etc.

4a. set up a mailbox for something like [email hidden]
4b. set this mailbox to "catch all"
4c. set the mail control for this mailbox and only this mailbox to
"delete all incoming mail".

The actions in 4 will mean that any mail coming to anything other than
a valid e-mail address is binned.

alternatively get yourself a mail server you can run on your PC that can
grab /all/ mail for /all/ accounts from your ISP and use that to
sort/filter/apply rules/spam trap/score/etc. and then route to
appropriate mailboxes. This was you get the chance to support multiple
mail accounts and have a spam mailbox that you can, if necessary, review
and recover mail falsely classified as spam from.

Doing this and tuning the filtering rules every few weeks means that the
number of spam making it into my valid mailboxes is 1 or 2 a day.

--
Darren
mail to darren not ng