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  1. I want to put a bit of lube on the rear derailleur cable where it slips into
    the last bit of housing above the derailleur. This was demo'd to me once,
    how to get the housing out of the guides etc, but for the life of me I can't
    remember which derailleur position is the one that gives you the longest
    cable - largest or smallest cog. It all feels the same to me. I couldn't
    find this tidbit on the Park Tool site, or my copy of Zinn, they just tell
    you to put a few drops of lube right there.

    With all the mud I've been in lately, I know I need to do this. Thanks guys.

    P.

  2. small change said:

    I want to put a bit of lube on the rear derailleur cable where it slips into
    the last bit of housing above the derailleur. This was demo'd to me once,
    how to get the housing out of the guides etc, but for the life of me I can't
    remember which derailleur position is the one that gives you the longest
    cable - largest or smallest cog. It all feels the same to me. I couldn't
    find this tidbit on the Park Tool site, or my copy of Zinn, they just tell
    you to put a few drops of lube right there.

    With all the mud I've been in lately, I know I need to do this. Thanks guys.

    P.

    I believe it's the smallest cog, often called the highest gear.

    Matt

  3. MattB said:
    small change said:

    I want to put a bit of lube on the rear derailleur cable where it
    slips into the last bit of housing above the derailleur. This was
    demo'd to me once, how to get the housing out of the guides etc, but
    for the life of me I can't remember which derailleur position is the
    one that gives you the longest cable - largest or smallest cog. It
    all feels the same to me. I couldn't find this tidbit on the Park
    Tool site, or my copy of Zinn, they just tell you to put a few drops
    of lube right there.

    With all the mud I've been in lately, I know I need to do this.
    Thanks guys.

    P.

    I believe it's the smallest cog, often called the highest gear.

    Matt

    OK, that's what I thought too... but even with the cable in that position, I
    can't get enough slack to pull the housings out of the keepers. Last time I
    said the hell with it, I was worried about breaking the cable so I just put
    a couple of drops on the cable right above the housing and just did a bunch
    of manual shifting.

    And yes, the drive train performs just fine so I do not want to change any
    tensions.

    P.

  4. You still need to move the derailer in with one hand to get slack.
    Just did it last night.

  5. A bent wire coathanger, looks like a fish hook, to hold the derailleur up
    toward the chain stay, will make life easier.

    The eye of the hook is open a bit to hold the derailleur arm, the large
    hook is over the chain stay.

    Also a "must have" for your camelback, to do chain repairs!

    --
    DTW .../\.../\.../\...

    I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
    The rest, I've just wasted.
    "

  6. Wow, it's a wonder I've been able to repair my chain for the last 25
    years. Will the wonders never cease?

  7. D T W .../\... said:

    A bent wire coathanger, looks like a fish hook, to hold the
    derailleur up toward the chain stay, will make life easier.

    The eye of the hook is open a bit to hold the derailleur arm, the
    large hook is over the chain stay.

    Also a "must have" for your camelback, to do chain repairs!

    more [censored] to put in my bag?

    P.

  8. G.T. said:

    You still need to move the derailer in with one hand to get slack.
    Just did it last night.

    OK. Got it, thanks. Now the next question would be TriFlow, Prolink or
    Dumonde Tech? Seeing as my most thorought scrub job took the drive train
    down to the metal.

    P.

  9. Well, definitely not TriFlow, Triflow is no longer a member of my
    household. I use Phil Tenacious. Can't comment on your other two
    options.

  10. G.T. said:

    Well, definitely not TriFlow, Triflow is no longer a member of my
    household. I use Phil Tenacious. Can't comment on your other two
    options.

    What's wrong with it, from your point of view? That one was a gift.

    p.

  11. Well, it looks nice and smells great in the beginning but it turns into
    a soupy, gritty, gummy mess in no time. I've never used Prolink but
    the marketing material sounds better than TriFlow. Use the absolute
    minimal amount you can get on the inner wire whichever you choose.

  12. G.T. said:

    Well, it looks nice and smells great in the beginning but it turns
    into a soupy, gritty, gummy mess in no time.

    LOL, couldn't be any worse than this.
    http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/penny/biking/images/c-fieldmud.jpg

    I've never used Prolink

    Quoted message said:

    but the marketing material sounds better than TriFlow. Use the
    absolute minimal amount you can get on the inner wire whichever you
    choose.

    yes, I know that. Thanks for all the help. Now, I just have to stay on the
    road so I can keep the drivetrain nice and clean.

    P.

  13. small change said:

    I want to put a bit of lube on the rear derailleur cable where it
    slips into the last bit of housing above the derailleur. This was
    demo'd to me once, how to get the housing out of the guides etc, but
    for the life of me I can't remember which derailleur position is the
    one that gives you the longest cable - largest or smallest cog. It
    all feels the same to me. I couldn't find this tidbit on the Park
    Tool site, or my copy of Zinn, they just tell you to put a few drops
    of lube right there.

    With all the mud I've been in lately, I know I need to do this.
    Thanks guys.

    I've read the other replies, but here's what I do: Shift to the LARGEST cog
    in back, stop the wheel, and then click the shifter to release cable tension
    (it helps to pull the cable through the middle casing as you click). Then
    you can easily pop the housing(s) from the stops and slide over the cable.
    (I lube with White Lightning to avoid the gunk that usually comes with
    oil-based goops; GT using Tenacious Oil is simply madness gone more amock
    than usual!)

    Due to last night's rather unwise ride, I'm due to do this procedure before
    I can do /anything/ on the bike. (Deep doo-doo done did it.)

    Bill "tempted to just buy a whole new bike" S.

  14. I use Phil to avoid the gunk that usually comes with
    wax/teflon/silicone/peanut butter-based goops. If you see any gunk
    with good old oil you're just using too much.

  15. G.T. said:

    I use Phil to avoid the gunk that usually comes with
    wax/teflon/silicone/peanut butter-based goops. If you see any gunk
    with good old oil you're just using too much.

    Boy, if it's the same stuff Miles had when we were in Tucson two years ago,
    it's */THICK/*! (Probably why they call it "Tenacious".) Hardly what I
    think of as "good old oil" -- more like STP Oil Treatment.

    To each his or her own, I guess.

    :-P

  16. small change said:

    I can't get enough slack
    P.


    A very common problem for many women.

    --
    Slack

  17. G.T. said:


    "Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    small change said:

    I can't get enough slack
    P.


    A very common problem for many women.

    Bwahahahaha.

    BTW, what happened to the "er"? I thought it was somebody else stalking
    me
    in r.p.d.s-s. Get a 20D or a 350D.

    GT

    hehehe... just trying to clean-up me image. And just in time too.

    I'm all over the 350xt. Glad I waited till after PMA cause I nearly bought
    a D70
    --
    Slack

  18. "Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    G.T. said:


    "Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:39:11 -0800, small change
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I can't get enough slack
    > P.
    >
    >
    A very common problem for many women.

    Bwahahahaha.

    BTW, what happened to the "er"? I thought it was somebody else stalking
    me
    in r.p.d.s-s. Get a 20D or a 350D.

    GT

    hehehe... just trying to clean-up me image. And just in time too.

    I'm all over the 350xt. Glad I waited till after PMA cause I nearly bought
    a D70

    I have my 300 sold to a friend and have my order in for the 350.

    Greg
    --
    "destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late,
    the battles we fought were long and hard,
    just not to be consumed by rock n' roll" - the mekons

  19. Quoted message said:

    I have my 300 sold to a friend and have my order in for the 350.

    Greg

    Are they in stock anywhere?

    --
    Slack

  20. "Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1109904169.098bb8e60640827100c428c8bbf7927b@teranews...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have my 300 sold to a friend and have my order in for the 350.

    Greg

    Are they in stock anywhere?

    Nope. Sometime after 3/22.

    I preordered mine at http://www.canogacamera.com

    Greg
    --
    "Keep music evil" - Cathal Coughlan

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