Cable in frame query.

vernon levy said:

I am about to transfer the parts from my Dawes Galaxy onto another Galaxy
frame. The replacement frame has cable in frame ports/entries/thingumybobs.
How do I get the brake cable to exit from the frame as I have had a dry run
and the cable goes past the exit point and hits the down tube? For once,
Sheldon hasn't got the answer.

I can't use the old cable to pull the new cable through as the s/h frame
arrived without cable.

I'm not sure if it is the best method, but last time I needed to do
this, I pushed the empty cable outer through until it was a few mm short
of the exit, then pushed some cable inner in through the other end into
the cable outer to guide it out.

JimP

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all. - DNA

vernon levy said:

I am about to transfer the parts from my Dawes Galaxy onto another Galaxy
frame. The replacement frame has cable in frame ports/entries/thingumybobs.
How do I get the brake cable to exit from the frame as I have had a dry run
and the cable goes past the exit point and hits the down tube? For once,
Sheldon hasn't got the answer.

I can't use the old cable to pull the new cable through as the s/h frame
arrived without cable.

Ah.. you have one without the internal tube.. One trick is to put a
small piece of paper on the end of a cotton thread and use a vacuum
cleaner. Then when you have the cotton through, tie on an inner wire,
then slide the outer down.

Good luck

...d

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vernon levy said:

I am about to transfer the parts from my Dawes Galaxy onto another Galaxy
frame. The replacement frame has cable in frame
ports/entries/thingumybobs.
How do I get the brake cable to exit from the frame as I have had a dry
run
and the cable goes past the exit point and hits the down tube? For once,
Sheldon hasn't got the answer.

I can't use the old cable to pull the new cable through as the s/h frame
arrived without cable.

Ah.. you have one without the internal tube.. One trick is to put a
small piece of paper on the end of a cotton thread and use a vacuum
cleaner. Then when you have the cotton through, tie on an inner wire,
then slide the outer down.

Brilliant :o)

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Ah.. you have one without the internal tube.. One trick is to put a
small piece of paper on the end of a cotton thread and use a vacuum
cleaner. Then when you have the cotton through, tie on an inner wire,
then slide the outer down.

Good luck

I'm looking forwards to the challenge, it will be yet another incremental
step towards my wife becoming convinced that I am insane - vacuuming the
insides of a bike frame. No rational explanation will convince her
otherwise.

-=V=-

vernon levy said:

I am about to transfer the parts from my Dawes Galaxy onto another Galaxy
frame. The replacement frame has cable in frame ports/entries/thingumybobs.
How do I get the brake cable to exit from the frame as I have had a dry run
and the cable goes past the exit point and hits the down tube? For once,
Sheldon hasn't got the answer.

I can't use the old cable to pull the new cable through as the s/h frame
arrived without cable.

TIA

Vernon

Same arrangement on my old Peugeot frame.
Push the outer cable into one end until it has just reached the other
port, so that the open end of the outer is visible.
Stick an old spoke (or similar) into the port, and screw it into the
visible open end of the cable outer.
Push the cable outer a bit further into the tube, using the spoke to
guide/fidget it out the other port. Not hard, just a bit fiddly.
Generally, the ports are on the bottom of the top tube, so gravity is
on your side, and this works fine.

If the above doesn't work out for you, you may find it easier to thread
the inner cable through first, then work the outer along it using it as
a guide to get the outer to and through the port. Once the outer is in
place, you can then whip out the inner cable and re-thread it
correctly.

By the way, I've found the back brake to be quite "spongy" with this
arrangement, when compared with bikes that us two external stops on the
top tube. I think that it's the length of outer cable used - more
outer cable = more compression = spongy feel. I'd advise using good
quality outer cable anyway, but particularly in this application.

HTH,

bookieb.

David Martin said:

Ah.. you have one without the internal tube.. One trick is to put a
small piece of paper on the end of a cotton thread and use a vacuum
cleaner. Then when you have the cotton through, tie on an inner wire,
then slide the outer down.

That's a neat idea. On my Galaxy I just threaded the outer through the
tube from front to back and fished the end up through the hole with the
help of a long electrical screwdriver that I found one day on the ground
in Kazakhstan.

--
Dave...

Dave Kahn said:

a long electrical screwdriver that I found one day on the
ground in Kazakhstan.

As you do...

Simon Bennett said:

Dave Kahn said:

a long electrical screwdriver that I found one day on the
ground in Kazakhstan.

As you do...

The beauty of this technique is that you don't actually need to go to
Kazakhstan. A long electrical screwdriver found on the ground anywhere
would do.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 said:

The beauty of this technique is that you don't actually need to go to
Kazakhstan. A long electrical screwdriver found on the ground anywhere
would do.

Doh! And there's me thinking there was something special about Kazakh
screwdrivers.

Simon Bennett said:

dkahn400 said:

The beauty of this technique is that you don't actually need to go to
Kazakhstan. A long electrical screwdriver found on the ground anywhere
would do.

Doh! And there's me thinking there was something special about Kazakh
screwdrivers.

There is. You have to carefully clean the blood off the shaft before
using one.
http://www.cpj.org/awards02/petrushova.html

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

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dkahn400 said:

The beauty of this technique is that you don't actually need to go to
Kazakhstan. A long electrical screwdriver found on the ground anywhere
would do.

Doh! And there's me thinking there was something special about Kazakh
screwdrivers.

Maybe the standard of wiring in Kazakhstan is such that you would want as
long a screwdriver as possible when working on it, in order to put as much
distance between you and any possibly live items etc if anything went the
Way of the Pear.

And perhaps the former owner of the tool barely escaped with their life in a
shower of sparks, and decided the wisest thing to do was to run away as fast
as possible leaving the screwdriver behind

🙂

Alex
--
Mr R@T / General Lighting
Ipswich, Suffolk, Untied Kingdom
http://www.partyvibe.com

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Quoted message said:

dkahn400 said:

The beauty of this technique is that you don't actually need to go to
Kazakhstan. A long electrical screwdriver found on the ground anywhere
would do.

Doh! And there's me thinking there was something special about Kazakh
screwdrivers.

Maybe the standard of wiring in Kazakhstan is such that you would want as
long a screwdriver as possible when working on it, in order to put as much
distance between you and any possibly live items etc if anything went the
Way of the Pear.

perhaps the former owner of the tool barely escaped with their life in a
shower of sparks, and decided the wisest thing to do was to run away as fast
as possible leaving the screwdriver behind....

Alex
--
Mr R@T / General Lighting
Ipswich, Suffolk, Untied Kingdom
http://www.partyvibe.com