Cabbage and Tunnel Carpal Sydrome

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I have a leaky gut. One pecularity is that raw cabbage

aggravates my

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Tunnel Carpal Syndrome. My wrist develops a numb/swollen

sensation

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within an hour. Would anyone know what might cause this?

Swelling from a food alergy to cabage most likely.

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Does cabbage
contain a lectin (ie SnowDrop) to bind with sugars (ie

Mannose)

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typically found on nerve myelin surfaces? Does the common

cabbage

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already have this lectin or has it been genetically modified

to reduces

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attack by pests?

I would think the main problem is digestive juices leaking out to where they
don't belong and triggering a variety of problems. Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
may only be the most obvious. Have you been tested for Celiac?

Karen

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I have a leaky gut. One pecularity is that raw cabbage aggravates my
Tunnel Carpal Syndrome. My wrist develops a numb/swollen sensation
within an hour. Would anyone know what might cause this? Does cabbage
contain a lectin (ie SnowDrop) to bind with sugars (ie Mannose)
typically found on nerve myelin surfaces? Does the common cabbage
already have this lectin or has it been genetically modified to reduces
attack by pests?

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I would think the main problem is digestive juices leaking out
to where they don't belong and triggering a variety of problems.

I am not sure if I have any digestive juices left. Per monty's advice,
I recently added two 650 mg Betaine HCl capsules with pepsin and they
improved digestion, especially that of proteins. At three capsules, I
feel a warm/cramp like sensation in my stomach.

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Have you been tested for Celiac?

No, but at this point I pretend I am, meaning no grains or milk. Those
two are top offenders for me.

Realize that the test for Celiac requires that you be consuming gluten when
tested. If you stay off of grains and are tested, you'll get a false
negative. And if you do have Celiac, staying off of grains then going back
on to get tested will probably produce a much stronger reaction to gluten
than you've had in the past.

I'd get tested soon, IIWY. It'll give you and your doc a clearer picture of
what you are dealing with. Just FYI, I took Prevacid for 5 years prior to
my Celiac diagnosis but haven't needed it since I eliminated all gluten.
But it had to be all gluten from the small amount of wheat in soy sauce to
the Aim toothpaste in my medicine cabinet.

Karen

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I would think the main problem is digestive juices leaking out
to where they don't belong and triggering a variety of problems.

I am not sure if I have any digestive juices left. Per monty's advice,
I recently added two 650 mg Betaine HCl capsules with pepsin and they
improved digestion, especially that of proteins. At three capsules, I
feel a warm/cramp like sensation in my stomach.

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Have you been tested for Celiac?

No, but at this point I pretend I am, meaning no grains or milk. Those
two are top offenders for me.

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Just FYI, I took Prevacid for 5 years prior to my Celiac diagnosis

Did they test for Helicobacter Pylori (www.helico.com)?

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but haven't needed it since I eliminated all gluten.

What is your typical diet now? Do you have any problems eating
grain-fed meat, poultry or fish? What are your safe foods?

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But it had to be all gluten from the small amount of wheat in soy sauce

Recently I traced a red dot on my finger back to SOY sauce also. It is
amazing how small a quantity can provoke a response.

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to the Aim toothpaste in my medicine cabinet.

Oh no, not the toothpaste also! Incidently, I have noticed ants eating
some brands of toothpaste. Toothpaste/Meal combo, now there's an idea
for Procter & Gamble 🙂

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Just FYI, I took Prevacid for 5 years prior to my Celiac diagnosis

Did they test for Helicobacter Pylori (www.helico.com)?

### No and not needed now. No gluten = no problems

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but haven't needed it since I eliminated all gluten.

What is your typical diet now? Do you have any problems eating
grain-fed meat, poultry or fish? What are your safe foods?

### Now I eat anything and everything except wheat, rye, barley or oats.
Grain fed meat etc. is not an issue.

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But it had to be all gluten from the small amount of wheat in soy sauce

Recently I traced a red dot on my finger back to SOY sauce also. It is
amazing how small a quantity can provoke a response.

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to the Aim toothpaste in my medicine cabinet.

Oh no, not the toothpaste also! Incidently, I have noticed ants eating
some brands of toothpaste. Toothpaste/Meal combo, now there's an idea
for Procter & Gamble 🙂

### Yup, Celiacs even have to watch out for lip balm and lip stick. A
little wheat germ oil can ruin your day.

Karen

How does the lipstick get into your stomache or intestines?

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Just FYI, I took Prevacid for 5 years prior to my Celiac diagnosis

Did they test for Helicobacter Pylori (www.helico.com)?

### No and not needed now. No gluten = no problems

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but haven't needed it since I eliminated all gluten.

What is your typical diet now? Do you have any problems eating
grain-fed meat, poultry or fish? What are your safe foods?

### Now I eat anything and everything except wheat, rye, barley or oats.
Grain fed meat etc. is not an issue.

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But it had to be all gluten from the small amount of wheat in soy

sauce

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Recently I traced a red dot on my finger back to SOY sauce also. It is
amazing how small a quantity can provoke a response.

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to the Aim toothpaste in my medicine cabinet.

Oh no, not the toothpaste also! Incidently, I have noticed ants eating
some brands of toothpaste. Toothpaste/Meal combo, now there's an idea
for Procter & Gamble 🙂

### Yup, Celiacs even have to watch out for lip balm and lip stick. A
little wheat germ oil can ruin your day.

Karen

When you lick your lips. I've had a gluten reaction when my hubby ate
raisin bran and kissed me. And it took a lot of tracking on his part before
I really believed that was what did it. If you're Celiac you don't just
need gluten free food, you need a gluten free significant other (or at least
one that diligently brushes their teeth after eating gluten).

Karen

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How does the lipstick get into your stomache or intestines?

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Oh no, not the toothpaste also! Incidently, I have noticed ants eating
some brands of toothpaste. Toothpaste/Meal combo, now there's an idea
for Procter & Gamble 🙂

### Yup, Celiacs even have to watch out for lip balm and lip stick. A
little wheat germ oil can ruin your day.

Karen

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If you're Celiac you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten free significant other

Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

Do you notice any problems with milk? I am wondering if gluten from a
cow's diet makes it into their milk? What is the quality of the milk
that you consume?

Who chopped up your cabbage for you?

Zee

jaym1212 said:

I have a leaky gut. One pecularity is that raw cabbage aggravates my
Tunnel Carpal Syndrome. My wrist develops a numb/swollen sensation
within an hour. Would anyone know what might cause this? Does cabbage
contain a lectin (ie SnowDrop) to bind with sugars (ie Mannose)
typically found on nerve myelin surfaces? Does the common cabbage
already have this lectin or has it been genetically modified to reduces
attack by pests?

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When you lick your lips. I've had a gluten reaction when my
hubby ate raisin bran and kissed me. [...] If you're Celiac
you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten free
significant other

Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

It can get worse than that. Some food allergens are excreted in sperm,
with the consequences you'd expect. (Yeasts and moulds are the most
likely to cause problems this way; the usual scenario is when the man is
a real ale buff and needs to use condoms after going to a beer festival).

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The gluten protein doesn't seem to make it to the animal tissue or get into
milk (cows aren't the only ones that eat wheat rye or barley). Good
question though, I hadn't really extrapolated it out but I'm guessing tripe
might be an issue. That's one item I've never seen mentioned on the Celiac
no-no list. But not having tripe wouldn't be a major dietary loss (for me).
I've only had it in pre-Celiac days in Mexican Menudo Soup or Vietnamese Pho
Soup. Oh yeah, tripas tacos... but again, a long time ago.

Karen

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If you're Celiac you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten

free significant other

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Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

Do you notice any problems with milk? I am wondering if gluten from a
cow's diet makes it into their milk? What is the quality of the milk
that you consume?

Ale... Sigh! That is one thing I really miss since the Celiac diagnosis.
Guinness -- there _is_ no gluten free equivalent.

Karen

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When you lick your lips. I've had a gluten reaction when my
hubby ate raisin bran and kissed me. [...] If you're Celiac
you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten free
significant other

Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

It can get worse than that. Some food allergens are excreted in sperm,
with the consequences you'd expect. (Yeasts and moulds are the most
likely to cause problems this way; the usual scenario is when the man is
a real ale buff and needs to use condoms after going to a beer festival).

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk

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Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660

4760

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<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554

975

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stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739

557

Remeber! Karen is the one that gets sick if her husband eats wheat during
the day, before he gets home.

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The gluten protein doesn't seem to make it to the animal tissue or get

into

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milk (cows aren't the only ones that eat wheat rye or barley). Good
question though, I hadn't really extrapolated it out but I'm guessing

tripe

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might be an issue. That's one item I've never seen mentioned on the

Celiac

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no-no list. But not having tripe wouldn't be a major dietary loss (for

me).

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I've only had it in pre-Celiac days in Mexican Menudo Soup or Vietnamese

Pho

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Soup. Oh yeah, tripas tacos... but again, a long time ago.

Karen

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If you're Celiac you don't just need gluten free food, you need a

gluten

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free significant other

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Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

Do you notice any problems with milk? I am wondering if gluten from a
cow's diet makes it into their milk? What is the quality of the milk
that you consume?

Do you have reactions to gluten when you think about drinking beer too?

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Ale... Sigh! That is one thing I really miss since the Celiac diagnosis.
Guinness -- there _is_ no gluten free equivalent.

Karen

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> When you lick your lips. I've had a gluten reaction when my
> hubby ate raisin bran and kissed me. [...] If you're Celiac
> you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten free
> significant other
Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

It can get worse than that. Some food allergens are excreted in sperm,
with the consequences you'd expect. (Yeasts and moulds are the most
likely to cause problems this way; the usual scenario is when the man is
a real ale buff and needs to use condoms after going to a beer

festival).

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============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk

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Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131

660

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4760

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<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870

0554

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975

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stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800

739

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557

Think? No Drink? Yes

Celiac reactions are not psychological, it's a physical immune system
response.

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Do you have reactions to gluten when you think about drinking beer too?

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Ale... Sigh! That is one thing I really miss since the Celiac

diagnosis.

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Guinness -- there _is_ no gluten free equivalent.

Karen

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>> When you lick your lips. I've had a gluten reaction when my
>> hubby ate raisin bran and kissed me. [...] If you're Celiac
>> you don't just need gluten free food, you need a gluten free
>> significant other
> Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

It can get worse than that. Some food allergens are excreted in

sperm,

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with the consequences you'd expect. (Yeasts and moulds are the most
likely to cause problems this way; the usual scenario is when the man

is

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a real ale buff and needs to use condoms after going to a beer

festival).

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============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk

==============

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Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131

660

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4760

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<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870

0554

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975

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stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800

739

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557

Only if he kisses me before brushing his teeth. The reaction is apparently
fairly common. I read a warning about it in a recently published "Gluten
Free Bible" by Jax Peters Lowell.

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Remeber! Karen is the one that gets sick if her husband eats wheat during
the day, before he gets home.

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The gluten protein doesn't seem to make it to the animal tissue or get

into

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milk (cows aren't the only ones that eat wheat rye or barley). Good
question though, I hadn't really extrapolated it out but I'm guessing

tripe

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might be an issue. That's one item I've never seen mentioned on the

Celiac

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no-no list. But not having tripe wouldn't be a major dietary loss (for

me).

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I've only had it in pre-Celiac days in Mexican Menudo Soup or Vietnamese

Pho

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Soup. Oh yeah, tripas tacos... but again, a long time ago.

Karen

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> If you're Celiac you don't just need gluten free food, you need a

gluten

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free significant other

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Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂

Do you notice any problems with milk? I am wondering if gluten from a
cow's diet makes it into their milk? What is the quality of the milk
that you consume?

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Who chopped up your cabbage for you?

I did. I don't trust the Green Giant to do it for me 🙂

Below PubMed Abstract indicats human milk has anitibodies for gliadin.
Since gliadin in found in many grains, doesn't this indicate that
humans shouldn't eat much grains?

Gliadin-specific IgA antibodies in breast milk.

Breast-feeding helps to protect against coeliac disease because of the
presence of antigliadin-IgA antibodies (AGA-IgA) in breast milk...

PMID: 11092234

With all that poor absorption and lack nutrition uptake doesn't it cause
mental psychological issues due to chemical imbalance?

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Only if he kisses me before brushing his teeth. The reaction is

apparently

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fairly common. I read a warning about it in a recently published "Gluten
Free Bible" by Jax Peters Lowell.

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Remeber! Karen is the one that gets sick if her husband eats wheat

during

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the day, before he gets home.

"Karen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The gluten protein doesn't seem to make it to the animal tissue or get

into

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milk (cows aren't the only ones that eat wheat rye or barley). Good
question though, I hadn't really extrapolated it out but I'm guessing

tripe

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might be an issue. That's one item I've never seen mentioned on the

Celiac

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no-no list. But not having tripe wouldn't be a major dietary loss

(for

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me).

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I've only had it in pre-Celiac days in Mexican Menudo Soup or

Vietnamese

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Pho

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Soup. Oh yeah, tripas tacos... but again, a long time ago.

Karen

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> > If you're Celiac you don't just need gluten free food, you need a

gluten

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free significant other
>
> Hmm, I wonder if eHarmony has an checkbox for this option 🙂
>
> Do you notice any problems with milk? I am wondering if gluten from

a

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> cow's diet makes it into their milk? What is the quality of the milk
> that you consume?
>