Bye-Bye Alum... Hello Carbone - recommendations?

"chalo colina" wrote: (clip) perhaps a sprung saddle.(clip)
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Or even a suspension seatpost.

It's damping, by the way.

Good heads-up! I'll lower my frame expectations since all frames are
stuck in a 2lb. box. Physics is physics...

Rosetta Stone _accepted_ and much appreciated... thanks! -r

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It's damping, by the way.

Quite telling! *Damping* is well-short of what I expected of
"dampening".
-r

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Steel gave way to Alum and now its time - Carbon time. Lumbar soreness
dictates dampening.

It won't make any difference there. But if you need an excuse to get a
lighter bike with a slightly smoother ride, fine :-)

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Rex said:

I tested an Orbea Onyx - nice - but the Shimano wheels
didn't accelerate especially well.

Tell me, how did you isolate the acceleration of the wheels from the the
overall acceleration of you and the bike?

Art Harris

Uh... how 'bout STEEL????

I have an IF Crown Jewel. It climbs like a rabbit, has a solid sprint
(unless you're over 200 lb), and is unbelievably smooth on the rough
farm roads of IL.

Also consider tires bigger than 23c, an keep 'em at 90 psi (even if they
say they can take 145!).

For the bars, the Bontrager "Buzz Killer" weighted plugs actually work.
It makes all the difference between me riding my aluminum-framed
"beater" on these farm roads a test of endurance and an enjoyable
experience.

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Steel gave way to Alum and now its time - Carbon time. Lumbar soreness
dictates dampening.

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Steel gave way to Alum and now its time - Carbon time. Lumbar

soreness

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dictates dampening.

My current Alum road bike was Crit geometry and like'm nimble. I

bike

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20-40 miles. I tested an Orbea Onyx - nice - but the Shimano wheels
didn't accelerate especially well. I've seen Spec' Roubaix, Orca,

Scott

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carbon frames but not ridden.

The Matrix of Frame + Wheels = Performance/Dampening is daunting.

Any

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experiece, suggestions, recommendations or pointers - how to decode

the

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Carbon product matrix? All Rosetta Stones accepted/appreciated!

Rex

Well, steel begat titanium, which led to aluminum which 'evolved' into
carbon, not it's just a mess. We still sell as much steel as anything,
and quite a lot of titanium(Moots). If you have 'lumbar soreness', a
fit is called for, not a new frame material.

Performance depends on four things-
-fit-bike fit
-fitness
-fat, lackthereof on you
-finesse, riding and racing smart

Dampening is affected most by tires, their size, material and pressure.

Arthur Harris said:

Rex said:

I tested an Orbea Onyx - nice - but the Shimano wheels
didn't accelerate especially well.

Tell me, how did you isolate the acceleration of the wheels from the the
overall acceleration of you and the bike?

Art Harris

Yes, OP was regurgitating a bunch of ad-hype-speak. Probably reading
Buy-suckling or listening to the local hot-shots.

Robin Hubert

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Tell me, how did you isolate the acceleration of the wheels from >the

the overall acceleration of you and the bike? - Art Harris

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I didn't know why, specifically,... but back at the shop, the guys
immediately offered up the Shimano wheels were the reason it lagged out
there. -r

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Performance depends on four things-
-fit-bike fit
-fitness
-fat, lackthereof on you
-finesse, riding and racing smart

I've realized my position will need to change. I'm very flexible, with
a stretched out position on the bike. But I never thought anything
beyond that to a complete bike-fit.

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Dampening is affected most by tires, their size, material and
pressure.

Damp/dampening Thanks...

-r