Buttermilk questions

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We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it
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Yes, it freezes pretty well. I suggest freezing in several small
quantities. It also makes a great base for a Ranch-style salad
dressing.
Nancree

On Sat 09 Apr 2005 07:05:28p, Karen AKA Kajikit wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
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I keep buttermilk as much as 2 weeks past the expiration date. It does not
spoil nearly as readily as regular milk.

Try some buttermilk cornbread.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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Karen AKA Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com
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I freeze it all the time.
I try to keep it on hand for upset stomachs...
--
K.

Karen AKA Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes <S>with</S>...

it'/s

Quoted message said:

sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off

Sell-by doesn't mean that's the date to dispose of... if buttermilk was
properly refrigerated at the market and at home then it can keep for
about a month past sell-by.

Quoted message said:

I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes.

Is

Quoted message said:

there anything else you can do with it?

Of course, drink it! Ice cold butter milk is delicious and
refreshing... also great in mashed spuds, and excellent for potato
soup, hot or cold.

Btw, it's called butter milk because it's a by-product of butter
production, it's what's left after the butter is removed... old
fashioned butter milk will contain but a few flakes of butter, but
modern butter milk contains no butter and very little milk fat
(-1/2%).

Sheldon

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Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before,

IME, it takes a very long time for it to grow fur. It might separate;
shake it up.

but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is

Quoted message said:

there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use?

I suppose. I never have.

Quoted message said:

Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week?

Look for some devil's food or chocolate cake recipes.

And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular

Quoted message said:

milk for pancake making?

I wouldn't. I'd use a pancake recipe that specifically calls for
buttermilk.
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Cam Ranh Bay food added 4-8-05.
Sam I Am! updated 4-9-05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

Karen AKA Kajikit said:

Can I freeze some of it for
later use?

I freeze and use buttermilk regularly. I put it up in 1/2 cup units (I have
six old, individual Jellow Molds that I pour it in); most recipes seem to
call for either 1/2 or 1 cup so this size works well. I freeze it, unmold
it and store the units until needed; then, thaw and stir to re integrate
(depending on the recipe that isn't totally necessary, but take only a
couple of seconds). If I didn't have the Jello molds, I'd probably just
pour a half cup into each of several zip sandwich bags.

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Karen AKA Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com
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When you use buttermilk instead of milk in recipes, you can replace some
of the baking powder with baking soda to compensate for the acidity of
the buttermilk.
For buttermilk pancakes, I use about 1/4 tsp of baking soda for 2 cups
of buttermilk. That gives a slightly sour batter. You can double this
amount if you don't like the acidity.

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

if you are fortunate enough not to have high blood pressure, and therefore
not watching your sodium, then the best use for buttermilk is DRINKING IT!

It is wonderfully delicious as a beverage

second only to kefir in my book!

but if you have high BP, don't even think about drinking a big glass of
this!

"Karen AKA Kajikit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com
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Karen AKA Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it?

It's good for marinating poultry. Imparts a light tang to it. Soak in
buttermilk for a few hours, shake off excess, coat with flour, let dry
for a little while, fry. Lovely.

Good for marinating shrimp and scallops, too. Drain, rinse and sauté.

Quoted message said:

Can I freeze some of it for later use?

Yes, but it won't spoil too soon. It can generally go a couple weeks
past the sell by date.

Quoted message said:

Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week?

Google. Buttermilk is a good ingredient in lots of baked goods.

Quoted message said:

And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?

No. The balance of ingredients will be important. Stick with recipes
that have been designed for it.

Pastorio

Sheldon said:

Of course, drink it! Ice cold butter milk is delicious and
refreshing... also great in mashed spuds, and excellent for potato
soup, hot or cold.

Btw, it's called butter milk because it's a by-product of butter
production, it's what's left after the butter is removed... old
fashioned butter milk will contain but a few flakes of butter, but
modern butter milk contains no butter and very little milk fat
(-1/2%).

Sheldon

Most "buttermilk" produced today is cultured (adding a starter culture
to warm milk). Typical milkfat content is usually 1 1/2 ~ 2%.

Buttermilk is also great for Fried Chicken. I will place chicken parts
in a gallon zip lock bag and pour buttermilk in to cover. You can mix
salt, pepper, cayenne in the buttermilk to add flavor. Store for
several hours or overnight in the fridge. The buttermilk tenderizes
the chicken and also sticks really well so that all that is neded is a
dredge in seasoned flour and it's ready to fry. No need for flour, egg
wash, flour routine.

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sat 09 Apr 2005 07:05:28p, Karen AKA Kajikit wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com
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I keep buttermilk as much as 2 weeks past the expiration date. It does not
spoil nearly as readily as regular milk.

Try some buttermilk cornbread.

2 weeks? Ha! You're a piker.

I don't know what my record is for using "expired" buttermilk but it's
long past two weeks. I do throw it out if it turns yellow or has mold
:>

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

George said:

Sheldon said:

Of course, drink it! Ice cold butter milk is delicious and
refreshing... also great in mashed spuds, and excellent for potato
soup, hot or cold.

Btw, it's called butter milk because it's a by-product of butter
production, it's what's left after the butter is removed... old
fashioned butter milk will contain but a few flakes of butter, but
modern butter milk contains no butter and very little milk fat
(-1/2%).

Sheldon

Most "buttermilk" produced today is cultured (adding a starter

culture

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to warm milk).

Yes, we know that, I posted that again for the umpteenth time not a
month ago.

Typical milkfat content is usually 1 1/2 ~ 2%.

I don't know if that's typical anymore, most often I see nonfat
buttermilk. I remember when there was only real buttermilk, sold in
glass... cardboard containers hadn't been invented yet.

"Buttermilk of times past was the liquid left after butter was churned.
Today it is made commercially by adding special bacteria to nonfat or
lowfat milk, giving it a slightly thickened texture and tangy flavor.
Some manufacturers add flecks of butter to give it an authentic look.
Dry or powdered buttermilk is also available."
© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.

Sheldon

Karen AKA Kajikit at [email hidden] wrote on 4/9/05 10:05 PM:

Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
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You bought a "big bottle" of something you have never used before and don't
know how to use? And with a short expiration date?

Why would you buy a "big bottle" of it if you have no idea what to do with
the rest of it after the half cup or so for your recipe?

Not the brightest star in the sky, huh?

Sheryl Rosen said:

Karen AKA Kajikit at [email hidden] wrote on 4/9/05 10:05 PM:

Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes.

Is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as

regular

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit

You bought a "big bottle" of something you have never used before and

don't

Quoted message said:

know how to use? And with a short expiration date?

Why would you buy a "big bottle" of it if you have no idea what to do

with

Quoted message said:

the rest of it after the half cup or so for your recipe?

Not the brightest star in the sky, huh?

Well, "big" is relative. I don't think buttermilk is sold in less than
quart size (in fact for more than 60 years I've only seen buttermilk in
quart containers, not larger or smaller, although in some locations
things may be different), but come to think of it as a small child I
remember going to the dairy with ones own containers, buttermilk was
ladled from a 'big' can (hey, to a three year old that can was "big"😉
so one could buy whatever amount, but I seriously doubt one will find
that these days in other but third world countrys. And it's been many
years since I've seen buttermilk in "bottles", or any milk in bottles
for that matter. Perhaps to the OP a quart is *big*, or only a manner
of speaking... I don't see the big deal.

A little birdie told me that 'aem said:

jmcquown said:

Powdered buttermilk... hmmm, I think I saw that once in the baking
section at the store. [snip

There's a brand called Saco which we keep in the 'fridge for pancakes
and biscuits. It works well. You can mix up a batch and use for
soaking chicken before frying but that doesn't work as well as the real
stuff. -aem

I always keep Saco buttermilk powder on hand. I also recently discovered
that they make cocoa powder, as well. It's a blend of regular and Dutched
cocoa. And less expensive than Hershey's, to boot.

Carol
--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Sheryl Rosen said:

Why would you buy a "big bottle" of it if you have no idea what to do with
the rest of it after the half cup or so for your recipe?

Not the brightest star in the sky, huh?

Ummm... because that was the only size container they had? It was also
the same price as the ordinary milk, so we got a half gallon of
each... I know you can get smaller bottles of the stuff in the
supermarket, but they also cost twice as much! I figured that the
worst-case scenario was I made pancakes twice and then we tossed the
rest down the sink. It's nice to hear that we shouldn't have to do
that...

btw, I made the pancakes this morning and put bananas into them. I
didn't much like the recipe I used - I'll try a different one next
week. They came out rather thin but also gluey in the middle - I don't
think the recipe had enough baking powder in it to puff them up. .

~Karen aka Kajikit
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Peter Aitken said:

"Karen AKA Kajikit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes.

Is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as

regular

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
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It keeps a long time but not forever. if it goes off it will be very
obvious! Buttermilk biscuits are one great use. It is also used to

soak the

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chicken before making traditional southern fried chicken (in some

recipes

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anyway). It's the main ingredient n ranch dressing too.

Almost forgot... buttermilk makes for a very nice low fat substitute
for sour cream blended with Shav (sorrel/sour grass), a favorite summer
soup.

Sheldon

Karen AKA Kajikit said:

We bought a big bottle of it today to make pancakes with... it's
sell-by date is next weekend so I can't see any way to use it all
before it goes off... that's if it DOES go off - I've never used
buttermilk before, but I know it's supposed to make great pancakes. Is
there anything else you can do with it? Can I freeze some of it for
later use? Or else does somebody have some great buttermilk recipes I
can try this week? And lastly, do you use it just the same as regular
milk for pancake making?
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
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Make lassi! If you like the sweet version - meeta lassi - just add some
sugar, (optional)fruits like mango/peaches/strawberries/blueberries,
some ice cubes and whirl in a blender till it is frothy and
well-blended, serve immediately in tall glasses. For the savory version
- khatta lassi - add some salt, pepper and {optional)roasted cumin
powder, and blend again with a few ice cubes till frothy. Serve
garnished with a few cilantro or curry leaves or paprika.

Kamala.