Butter on microwave popcorn

On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

It's not butter. Troll.

--Bryan

Richard Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

The kind without butter is the best.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton said:

Richard Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

The kind without butter is the best.

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

Jill

jmcquown said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Richard Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

Quoted message said:

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

Quoted message said:

The kind without butter is the best.

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

Quoted message said:

Jill

--Bryan

In said:

jmcquown said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]> wrote:
> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

Quoted message said:

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> Secret with Spiderman on the box.

Quoted message said:

The kind without butter is the best.

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

True...

Meanwhile, despite any hype, palm and coconut oils are very highly
saturated, hardly behind the few "fully saturated" ones such as
"fully hydrogenated" (which are trans-fat-free - trans is a bad kind of
unsaturated fat).

Trans is worst and saturated is second-worst. Fats of warm blooded
animals rank behind those, by being roughly or a little over 50% saturated
with little trans. Unhydrogenated non-tropical vegetable oils and oils of
cold water fishes do better by being low in both trans and saturated fats.

- Don Klipstein ([email hidden])

Richard Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

My favorite is the one with the trolls on the box...

BOBOBOnoBO® said:

jmcquown said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]> wrote:
> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> Secret with Spiderman on the box.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The kind without butter is the best.

Quoted message said:

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:27:42 -0700, BOBOBOnoBO® <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

It's not butter. Troll.

--Bryan

There sure are some rude people on usenet. When they dont like the
question or know the answer they shout "troll". I always wonder why
they dont just skip on to the next message and shutup, rather than
waste their time replying and waste everyone elses time who opens
their useless reply.

Now to answer the question. The "butter" is unlikely actual butter.
(I said unlikely because there may be a brand that does contain actual
butter). The ones I have tried all say "Butter Flavor".

This stuff is actually a mixture of oil and artificial flavoring.
It's not placed inside the popcorn seed, it's inside the bag as a semi
hard grease. As the popcorn pops, heat melts this flavored oil, which
spreads it to the popped corn. They also sell some other flavored
varieties these days. I tried a spicey hot pepper variety which we
just stumbled across while travelling. That stuff was really good.
Too bad we cant find it locally. There again, the flavor is just
added to the oils in the bag. I suppose the stuff is all trans-fats
and unhealthy as heck, but these days almost everything is bad for us.

I still like home popped (on the stove) popcorn with real better
poured over it, the best. But when one is on the go and in a hurry,
many of the microwave popcorns are not all that bad.

Julie

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:08:10 -0500, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Richard Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

The kind without butter is the best.

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

Jill

i thought it was september when all those nasty college students got
their internet accounts that the goofballs came out. gosh, it's hard
to keep these usenet clichés straight.

but keep [censored] about it, jill. that will send them scurrying
behind mama's skirts!

your pal,
blake

As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard

Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
flavored oil gets on the corn.

--
Kent
"I most stonger than Darth Vapor!"
-- Zladko "Zlad" Vladcik

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:22:10 -0700, Larry Bud
<[email hidden]> wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

Why Larry, don't you understand? There are those out there
who know all there is to know about everything. These people want to
make certain NO ONE has any enjoyment in life, ever.
Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic.

--
Kent
The irony of life is that, by the time
you're old enough to know your way
around, you're not going anywhere.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kent Wills said:

As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard

Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
flavored oil gets on the corn.

The butter flavor in microwave popcorn comes from a chemical called
diacetyl. This chemical is the subject of several lung injury lawsuits
by popcorn factory workers. Some workers have scaring of the lungs to
the point of needing lung transplants. This is also know as "popcorn
workers lung". These law suits have been much in the news lately, so I
am surprised that you haven't heard of them (and the chemical that gives
the butter flavor to microwave popcorn).

Just google for 'diacetyl' and you will get all kinds of information.

--
-Ernie-

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:45:59 -0700, Ernie Klein

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kent Wills said:

As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard

Fangnail said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
flavored oil gets on the corn.

The butter flavor in microwave popcorn comes from a chemical called
diacetyl. This chemical is the subject of several lung injury lawsuits
by popcorn factory workers. Some workers have scaring of the lungs to
the point of needing lung transplants. This is also know as "popcorn
workers lung". These law suits have been much in the news lately, so I
am surprised that you haven't heard of them (and the chemical that gives
the butter flavor to microwave popcorn).

Popcorn isn't a major interest of mine, so I haven't paid any
attention. On those rare occasions when I enjoy any, it's air popped.

Quoted message said:

Just google for 'diacetyl' and you will get all kinds of information.

--
Kent
Recuerdo del Fin Del Mundo!

Kent Wills said:

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:22:10 -0700, Larry Bud

<[email hidden]> wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

Quoted message said:

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

Why Larry, don't you understand? There are those out there
who know all there is to know about everything. These people want to
make certain NO ONE has any enjoyment in life, ever.
Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic.

Nice. Pigs who get "enjoyment" from vegetable shortening.
Do you also think it should be legal to sell home made
methamphetamine?
What about serving contaminated groundwater in a restaurant?

Quoted message said:

--
Kent
The irony of life is that, by the time
you're old enough to know your way
around, you're not going anywhere.

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® said:

Kent Wills said:

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:22:10 -0700, Larry Bud

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
> grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
> all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
> (grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
> "shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
> some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
> while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
> Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
> hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
> been banned.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

Quoted message said:

Why Larry, don't you understand? There are those out there
who know all there is to know about everything. These people want to
make certain NO ONE has any enjoyment in life, ever.
Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic.

Nice. Pigs who get "enjoyment" from vegetable shortening.

I'm 38 years old, 5'8", 150 lbs. I'll enjoy what I want, when I
want. Who the hell are you to tell me otherwise?

Quoted message said:

Do you also think it should be legal to sell home made
methamphetamine?

To adults, of course.

Quoted message said:

What about serving contaminated groundwater in a restaurant?

The expectation of drinking water in a restaurant is that it's not
contaminated. However, the expectation when eating high fat foods is
that you might get fat, and it might not be good for you.

Why stop at vegetable shortening? Perhaps I don't think you should be
drinking all that sugar water, kindly named 'Soda" or "Pop". Or
perhaps your lawn mower is making too much noise for your neighbor's
liking? Come to think of it, I don't really like the way you dress,
or the kind of car you drive.

Or Beer! For God's sake, how did I forget beer?!?! Let's make
EVERYTHING illegal, because, after all, the Do Gooders know better
than everyone... somehow.

Kent Wills said:

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:22:10 -0700, Larry Bud

<[email hidden]> wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

Quoted message said:

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

Why Larry, don't you understand? There are those out there
who know all there is to know about everything. These people want to
make certain NO ONE has any enjoyment in life, ever.
Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic.

You're not being sarcastic at all, you're absolutely right. I'm all
for people knowing all they can know, but those people need to but the
hell out of my business, trying to tell me what I can and cannot eat,
drink, smoke, drive, watch on TV, listen to on the radio, and read on
the internet.

It's the whole mentality of eliminating personal responsibility, words
that many cannot even say.

Quoted message said:

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:27:42 -0700, BOBOBOnoBO® <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

Quoted message said:

It's not butter. Troll.

Quoted message said:

--Bryan

There sure are some rude people on usenet. When they dont like the
question or know the answer they shout "troll". I always wonder why
they dont just skip on to the next message and shutup, rather than
waste their time replying and waste everyone elses time who opens
their useless reply.

Now to answer the question. The "butter" is unlikely actual butter.
(I said unlikely because there may be a brand that does contain actual
butter). The ones I have tried all say "Butter Flavor".

This stuff is actually a mixture of oil and artificial flavoring.
It's not placed inside the popcorn seed, it's inside the bag as a semi
hard grease. As the popcorn pops, heat melts this flavored oil, which
spreads it to the popped corn. They also sell some other flavored
varieties these days. I tried a spicey hot pepper variety which we
just stumbled across while travelling. That stuff was really good.
Too bad we cant find it locally. There again, the flavor is just
added to the oils in the bag. I suppose the stuff is all trans-fats
and unhealthy as heck, but these days almost everything is bad for us.

I still like home popped (on the stove) popcorn with real better
poured over it, the best. But when one is on the go and in a hurry,
many of the microwave popcorns are not all that bad.

Julie

We use the Whirlypop from Wabash Valley? I think that is the name...
making it on our own and knowing all of the ingredients we are putting
into
it is the only way to go!

Tom
www.itspuresoap.com
www.seo9oneone.com

(Don Klipstein) said:

In said:

jmcquown said:

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Richard Fangnail <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> Secret with Spiderman on the box.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> The kind without butter is the best.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommywill
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat [censored] popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

Quoted message said:

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

True...

Meanwhile, despite any hype, palm and coconut oils are very highly
saturated, hardly behind the few "fully saturated" ones such as
"fully hydrogenated" (which are trans-fat-free - trans is a bad kind of
unsaturated fat).

Coconut oil IS bad. Palm KERNEL oil is bad. Palm oil (as opposed to
palm kernel oil) is not. Not all saturated fatty acids have the same
effects on blood lipoproteins.
Cocoa butter, which is highly saturated, has been shown to have a good
effect on lipoproteins. citation below:

Dark chocolate consumption increases HDL cholesterol concentration
and chocolate fatty acids may inhibit lipid peroxidation in healthy
humans.
Mursu J, Voutilainen S, Nurmi T, Rissanen TH, Virtanen JK,
Kaikkonen J, Nyyssönen K, Salonen JT.
Free Radic Biol Med. 2004 Nov 1;37(9):1351-9

Also, "Stearic acid, found in cocoa butter...has a neutral effect on
the plasma lipid profile." citation below:
Effects of antioxidants and fatty acids on low-density-lipoprotein
oxidation
CJ Fuller and I Jialal
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol 60, 1010S-1013S

Stearic acid is a fully saturated fatty acid.
The short chain saturated fats are also fine.
All trans fats are very bad, but saturated fats are far more
complicated than you described.

Quoted message said:

- Don Klipstein ([email hidden])

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® said:

Cocoa butter, which is highly saturated, has been shown to have a good
effect on lipoproteins. citation below:

Dark chocolate consumption increases HDL cholesterol concentration
and chocolate fatty acids may inhibit lipid peroxidation in healthy
humans.
Mursu J, Voutilainen S, Nurmi T, Rissanen TH, Virtanen JK,
Kaikkonen J, Nyyssönen K, Salonen JT.
Free Radic Biol Med. 2004 Nov 1;37(9):1351-9

Cocoa butter is white chocolate. Dark chocolate minimizes
cocoa butter and maximizes nonfat cocoa solids.

Quoted message said:

Also, "Stearic acid, found in cocoa butter...

And soap...

Quoted message said:

has a neutral effect on
the plasma lipid profile." citation below:

Hully gee! A /neutral effect/!

Quoted message said:

Effects of antioxidants and fatty acids on low-density-lipoprotein
oxidation
CJ Fuller and I Jialal
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol 60, 1010S-1013S

Stearic acid is a fully saturated fatty acid.
The short chain saturated fats are also fine.
All trans fats are very bad, but saturated fats are far more
complicated than you described.

The evidence seems to be that saturated fats were sullied
by association with trans fats. As trans fats come from
artificially saturating unsaturated fats, and the FDA for
a long time didn't require labelling foods with trans-fat
content.

--Blair