Butt Pain - Set/technique problem?

monkeyboy said:

Hi all,

Recently I've been experiencing some pain deep in the middle of my
right buttock. There is no associated back pain or leg pain. I think
it might be the piriformis or hamstring. I catch myself mashing a bit
lately, but I'm not sure that's the cause. Are there any set-up or
technique problems that could contribute?

I get similar pain(s) from time to time. ASSuming (sorry) you haven't
changed anything recently -- same saddle, seat post, pedals, shoes, cleats,
bike, etc. -- it could be... {heck, I got nothing.}

Was going to say a pinched nerve. I'm currently dealing with an abdominal
pinched nerve that was REALLY mimicking a hernia -- even got sent to a
surgeon who said she wouldn't cut me open without more proof. Nerve deals
can cause those "deep"-type pains like you describe.

For now, I'd try stretching -- gently before and then more after a brief
warm up -- especially your right hammy, quad, and lower back.

Things like massage and pressure point therapy can help, too, of course --
plus there's always the dreaded doctor visit if it remains bothersome or
gets worse.

Good luck.

Bill "sitting on two rubber yellow 'pressure point' balls (no better than
tennis balls) even as I type" S.

Quoted message said:

Recently I've been experiencing some pain deep in the middle of my
right buttock. There is no associated back pain or leg pain. I think it
might be the piriformis or hamstring. I catch myself mashing a bit
lately, but I'm not sure that's the cause. Are there any set-up or
technique problems that could contribute?

Thanks

Frank

I just saw a doc yesterday for this problem. He says that there is a tendon
between the "sit bone" and the sacrum that is causing the problem. He showed
me a way to locate both bones and then trace in between them with my fingers
so that I can hold pressure on the tendon for 30 seconds. He said to get up
off the saddle more often and to try and sit upright more often. I asked
about going on the drops, and he said that would be good, too---just don't
maintain one posture for a long time.

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monkeyboy said:

Hi all,

Recently I've been experiencing some pain deep in the middle of my
right buttock. There is no associated back pain or leg pain. I think it
might be the piriformis or hamstring. I catch myself mashing a bit
lately, but I'm not sure that's the cause. Are there any set-up or
technique problems that could contribute?

Thanks

Frank

When (in your pedal stroke) is this happening? Does it get worse or
better when you;

1) Stand?
2) When you are getting fatigued on the bike?
3) Better or worse after your warm-up?
4) Worse at what level of intensity?
(don't say "zones", just describe generally what is going on)

5) when did it start (how long ago on the calendar)?
6) was the onset immediate and what are the trends in the issues above?
7) How long have you been cycling and how long at the current volume
level (X hours per week)?
8) How long have you been using the current bike setup (since last
change in saddle position and or saddle model or any other position
influencing change no matter how trivial)?

As long as it is muscle trauma it should heal and you may never think
of it again. What you describe sounds like something that tore a bit
when you sprinted or did something to recruit tissue that was not quite
up to the task at that moment. In my experience, that area can be
injured from higher intensity more easily that simply too much volume,
though what can also happen is fatigue and incomplete recovery while
attempting a level of intensity you normally would be able to tolerate
but the lack of sufficient rest caused that tissue to exert more than
normal to compensate. If you provide no more information, my guess is
that you will have no trouble healing. That obviously assumes some
facts that I had no way to know for certain.

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Thanks for the responses,

I can feel it early in a ride, with a moderate effort while in the
saddle, at the top of the stroke. It seems to disapear once I've warmed
up. I first noticed it last fall, and it seemed to go away over the
winter. My volume hasn't changed much, but I'm riding harder now. I've
been doing my current volume for more than 5 yrs, about 100 to 120
miles/wk. No real change to my setup over the period.

I did notice that I tend to rotate forward as I increase the effort,
and I tend to want to flatten my lower back. I had initially thought it
was flattening my back that might be the cause?

To add another possibility, I play 4-5 hrs (1 hr/day) of basketball
during the week, and noticed it as I came off the court today. But I
first noticed it while biking.

Thanks again for the help.

Frank

Chris M said:

monkeyboy said:

Hi all,

Recently I've been experiencing some pain deep in the middle of my
right buttock. There is no associated back pain or leg pain. I think it
might be the piriformis or hamstring. I catch myself mashing a bit
lately, but I'm not sure that's the cause. Are there any set-up or
technique problems that could contribute?

Thanks

Frank

When (in your pedal stroke) is this happening? Does it get worse or
better when you;

1) Stand?
2) When you are getting fatigued on the bike?
3) Better or worse after your warm-up?
4) Worse at what level of intensity?
(don't say "zones", just describe generally what is going on)

5) when did it start (how long ago on the calendar)?
6) was the onset immediate and what are the trends in the issues above?
7) How long have you been cycling and how long at the current volume
level (X hours per week)?
8) How long have you been using the current bike setup (since last
change in saddle position and or saddle model or any other position
influencing change no matter how trivial)?

As long as it is muscle trauma it should heal and you may never think
of it again. What you describe sounds like something that tore a bit
when you sprinted or did something to recruit tissue that was not quite
up to the task at that moment. In my experience, that area can be
injured from higher intensity more easily that simply too much volume,
though what can also happen is fatigue and incomplete recovery while
attempting a level of intensity you normally would be able to tolerate
but the lack of sufficient rest caused that tissue to exert more than
normal to compensate. If you provide no more information, my guess is
that you will have no trouble healing. That obviously assumes some
facts that I had no way to know for certain.

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uneeda massage
http://www.top-fashion-models.info/pictures/72/0864360138.jpg

Yo. Well SHE doesn't work at the School of Healing Arts.

Durn it.

no, she's there - stop by

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no, she's there - stop by

i'll get right on that. (errr, )