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  1. Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet I
    still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high weight if I was gonna gain any, high
    consumption of sweets when I was a kid, probably didn't help
    but ive been a type 1 for 18 years now and I can start to
    see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Stu

  2. Stu said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high


    weight

    Quoted message said:

    if I was gonna gain any, high consumption of sweets when I
    was a kid, probably didn't help but ive been a type 1 for
    18 years now and I can


    start

    Quoted message said:

    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Well, Stu, Type 1 diabetes is a completely different disease
    from Type 2, and being overweight has nothing to do with
    developing Type 1. It's not fair, but that's the way it is.
    It sounds as if you're starting to experience some typical
    complications, from #1, 2, and 3 above, and (alas) probably
    the best thing you can do about it is to get a grip on #4. I
    know about the burnout thing -- I've been doing this for
    more than 40 years, myself, and I get really tired of it.
    But blood sugar control presumably can make quite a
    difference in the progress of complications. Some things can
    be reversed, while others can be slowed down. Probably worth
    making some effort.

    Good luck!

    Peggy

    --
    WWSD ***** What Would Samwise Do?

  3. "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high weight if I was gonna gain any, high
    consumption of sweets when I was a kid, probably didn't
    help but ive been a type 1 for 18 years now and I can
    start to see the effects of a being a badly controlled
    diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    First of all, and maybe totally unnecessary - but as no
    doubt you know T1 is an autoimmune disease, and not related
    to your weight. It's a failure in your immune system,
    triggering your body to destroy its own beta cells, the
    factories for insulin. Overweight is the predominant
    determinant in T2 diabetes, a disease which makes you
    insensitive to your own insulin.

    Either T1 or T2, experiencing a bad regulation with diabetes
    affects a whole range of other things going wrong in your
    body, as you noticed all to well. The mechanism of these
    complications are still not very well understood, but there
    are very strong indications that prolonged high BG's have a
    negative effect indeed. Like the neuropathy you encounter,

    You can sit down and think all's lost. The facts are that's
    not the case, but it seems at this moment the last thing you
    want is stupid facts.

    However - in the long run your own health is your own
    responsibility. It doesn't mean that you never feel you've
    had enough and simply want to turn away from your diabetes.
    Been there, done that, believe me, your experience will be
    confirmed by many. Who could blame you?

    But one day you have kick yourself and start realizing that
    your protest might satisfy your own rage, but won't deter
    the diabetes. On the contrary.

    You know what helps (and what helped me)? The feeling that
    you're in control. Given your sparse description of the way
    you assess your disease it looks to me that even with 18
    years experience you have insufficient knowledge about your
    disease; of possible causes and best plans of attacks.

    Gain control again. Or get it _now_. Get out of that
    negative spiral. Look for expert information. Get yourself
    informed about recent research results, possible causes of
    T1 based on the latest insights, and recent developments on
    the terrain of medication and equipment. Internet is a great
    way to start, albeit a crude way without a quality label.
    But at least you'll see what's moving.

    Listen to your doctor/endo and develop a drill; don't take
    no for an answer. Develop a realistic program for control
    and regulation. Maybe more drastic measures are in order.
    Different insulin, pumping?

    You should take every bit of fate you still can control, and
    you should take it in your _own_ hand, _you_ should
    determine what to do and how to do it - with knowledge
    instead of gut feeling.

    Knowledge is power. Knowledge is control. Diabetes is a
    verhicle that's moving you forward, now you should at least
    take the steering wheel in both hands. You will be surprised
    to find out that after a while you can operate the brakes as
    well, and - even with diabetic complications - sometimes
    find _reverse_. As I did.

    And sometimes you encounter that "motivation dip" again.
    Return to a place like this, just say it out aloud, and
    people will tell you: we know what you mean. Just yesterday
    I was there too. We're all human. And next morning you'll
    find the power to go full steam ahead again.

    Take control. Now.

    --
    CeeBee

    _Got no wockin' furries_

  4. "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!,

    No you didn't. Diabetes isn't "contracted" it's just [censored]
    that develops and weight has nothing to do with it.

    Possibly a high metabolism countered the high weight

    Quoted message said:

    if I was gonna gain any, high consumption of sweets when I
    was a kid, probably didn't help but ive been a type 1 for
    18 years now and I can


    start

    Quoted message said:

    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    Maybe you should try being a goodly controlled one then😉

    Quoted message said:


    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    I think (4) just about says it all don't you? If you're
    not prepared to do SOME of the work, you're not going to
    get any of the benefits FROM that work are you? After 18
    years on the job, I'm surprised you haven't realised that
    the responsibility for your health lies in one place. Your
    own hands.

    Quoted message said:


    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Stu, LOTS of people have, but it takes effort and
    discipline. After the

    as control goes, etc) you can "grow" new ones where a test
    before you eat and an adjustment to WHAT you eat gives you
    amore stable BG level and that's what we need, a stable BG
    level that's not stratospherically high.

    But of course, you've got to WANT to change.

    Beav

  5. Quoted message said:

    "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7C%bc.21682$Id.957@news-
    binary.blueyonder.co.uk... Never had a weight problem, if
    anything im underweight yet I still contracted diabetes!!,

    Waaaaah. I was diagnosed on my third birthday -- think I did
    anything to "catch" it then?!?

    I know it sucks, but it happens -- deal with it.

    Quoted message said:

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    If you took care of #4, #s 1-3 probably would improve. I
    know it's tough, but you've got to take responsibility.

    --Greg, Type 1, DX'ed 31 years ago. No major complications
    (some borderline retinopathy that's being tracked but is not
    progressing)

  6. On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:02:45 +0100, "Stu" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high weight if I was gonna gain any, high
    consumption of sweets when I was a kid, probably didn't
    help but ive been a type 1 for 18 years now and I can start
    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Type 1 is an autoimmune problem, not a weight problem.
    Weight is type
    2.

    Get yourself undr control. Get a Ymca or gym membership, and
    ease into it slowly. Exercise and test. Make sure if you
    can, to get a sMAC blood workup and tested for comps like
    your eyes and kidneys first.

    Any questions, email my unlazy butt. Exercise doesn't
    completely solve everything, but I have had diabetes 21
    years since this past Xmas, and don't have any.

    NNot even an engored blood vessel. Course some recent events
    coudl have changed that, but still. Exercise and
    weightlifting. You might have to adjsut your insulin up for
    the extra muscle.

    Good luck.

  7. CeeBee said:

    "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:

    Knowledge is power. Knowledge is control. Diabetes is a
    verhicle that's moving you forward, now you should at least
    take the steering wheel in both hands. You will be
    surprised to find out that after a while you can operate
    the brakes as well, and - even with diabetic complications
    - sometimes find _reverse_. As I did.

    Please elaborate.

  8. Hey, skinny folks can also become Type 2. Twenty percent of
    type 2 diabetics are "lean".

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight.
    Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.4. Cut the carbs to respond to my
    email address!

    Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips,
    recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
    geocities.comjenny the bean

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit alt-support-alt-support-
    diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Muscle Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stu said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight
    yet I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high
    metabolism countered the high


    weight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    if I was gonna gain any, high consumption of sweets when
    I was a kid, probably didn't help but ive been a type 1
    for 18 years now and I can


    start

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled
    diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Type 1 is an autoimmune problem, not a weight problem.
    Weight is type
    2.

    Get yourself undr control. Get a Ymca or gym membership,
    and ease into it slowly. Exercise and test. Make sure if
    you can, to get a sMAC blood workup and tested for comps
    like your eyes and kidneys first.

    Any questions, email my unlazy butt. Exercise doesn't
    completely solve everything, but I have had diabetes 21
    years since this past Xmas, and don't have any.

    NNot even an engored blood vessel. Course some recent
    events coudl have changed that, but still. Exercise and
    weightlifting. You might have to adjsut your insulin up
    for the extra muscle.

    Good luck.

  9. "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high


    weight

    Quoted message said:

    if I was gonna gain any, high consumption of sweets when I
    was a kid, probably didn't help but ive been a type 1 for
    18 years now and I can


    start

    Quoted message said:

    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    I'm not a type 1, but I do have neuropathy and I know that
    if you keep your BG in line, your symptoms will diminish and
    possibly go away. If you eat what you like and don't care,
    then you'll only get worse.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  10. Jenny said:

    Hey, skinny folks can also become Type 2. Twenty percent of
    type 2 diabetics are "lean".

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight.
    Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.4. Cut the carbs to respond to my
    email address!

    Yes, but 80% are fat. If you're gonna make a comment, it's
    best to go with the majority of people it applies to.

    Obesity i now the leading cause of blindness in the US.

  11. Muscle Man said:
    CeeBee said:

    "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:

    Knowledge is power. Knowledge is control. Diabetes is a
    verhicle that's moving you forward, now you should at
    least take the steering wheel in both hands. You will be
    surprised to find out that after a while you can operate
    the brakes as well, and - even with diabetic
    complications - sometimes find _reverse_. As I did.

    Please elaborate.

    Umm. Diabetes is that unfortunately leaky gasket that
    requires a quart of oil every 500 miles and makes your
    exhaust not pass the emissions standard. It doesn't
    *provide* or drive anything, it just makes driving and
    getting anywhere interesting more of a pain in the ass.

    Don't put diabetes on a pedestal. Making it the core of your
    life is a tactical error. To avoid this error, do something
    nice for other people, preferably something that takes some
    muscle and burns some calories. Referee soccer games, build
    playgrounds, become a Scoutmaster, learn CPR, do something
    useful that takes you outside yourself and puts your
    problems in perspective.

    And if that doesn't work, consider a good therapist. A lot
    of us get rather depressed about the diabetes: add in the
    spiral of depression causing poor control causing lethargy
    causing depression, and it can be difficult to break.
    Possible, but more difficult than you may want to spend when
    you're feeling depressed without a bit of help from some
    friends or some professionals.

  12. On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:25:12 -0400, Muscle Man <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Obesity i now the leading cause of blindness in the US.

    Whew! What a relief - as an adolescent I was told it was
    something else entirely! Not of course, that it was
    applicable to me...

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

  13. On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:02:45 +0100, "Stu" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high weight if I was gonna gain any, high
    consumption of sweets when I was a kid, probably didn't
    help but ive been a type 1 for 18 years now and I can start
    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Stu

    type 1 diabetes is NOT caused by excessive weight.

    Mack©® Type 1 since 1975 alt-support-diabetes.orgalt-support-diabetes.org
    insulin-pumpers.orginsulin-pumpers.org

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    ...Theodore Roosevelt

  14. Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:
    Muscle Man said:

    Obesity i now the leading cause of blindness in the US.

    Whew! What a relief - as an adolescent I was told it was
    something else entirely! Not of course, that it was
    applicable to me...

    Deafness, not blindness... <cough>

    --
    CeeBee

    _Got no wockin' furries_

  15. Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
    Muscle Man said:
    CeeBee said:

    "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:

    Knowledge is power. Knowledge is control. Diabetes is a
    verhicle that's moving you forward, now you should at
    least take the steering wheel in both hands. You will be
    surprised to find out that after a while you can operate
    the brakes as well, and - even with diabetic
    complications - sometimes find _reverse_. As I did.

    Please elaborate.

    Umm. Diabetes is that unfortunately leaky gasket that
    requires a quart of oil every 500 miles and makes your
    exhaust not pass the emissions standard. It doesn't
    *provide* or drive anything, it just makes driving and
    getting anywhere interesting more of a pain in the ass.

    No I meant I wanted her to describe how she rolled back her
    complications, what method or life changes.

    Actually share the process.....

  16. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:18:06 +1000, Alan <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Muscle Man said:

    Obesity i now the leading cause of blindness in the US.

    Whew! What a relief - as an adolescent I was told it was
    something else entirely! Not of course, that it was
    applicable to me...

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.

    Well, that was by extension. Since obesity is the leading
    cause of diabetes and diabetes the leading cause of
    blindness...

  17. CeeBee said:

    Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in
    misc.health.diabetes:

    Quoted message said:
    Muscle Man said:

    Obesity i now the leading cause of blindness in the US.

    Whew! What a relief - as an adolescent I was told it was
    something else entirely! Not of course, that it was
    applicable to me...

    Deafness, not blindness... <cough>

    How'd you do it CeeBee. Please tell us....

  18. Stu, I've been T1 for 21 years. (Got it when I was 14.) Yes,
    it sucks. I was in fairly good during high school. (Thanks
    to my parents.) When I went away to college, I drank and ate
    what I wanted when I wanted. (I always took my shots because
    I would feel too bad if I didn't.) After college, I grew up
    a little more, and took better care of myself. (Not good,
    but better.) Then I decided to go out of town with my
    boyfriend who is now my husband. On the second night of my
    romantic weekend, I spent the entire evening throwing up.
    The next morning he called the ambulance because I was
    couldn't breath well. (I was experiencing the Kaussmaul
    breathing.) I was rushed to the emergency room and put in
    ICU for a couple of days because I went into DKA. My mother
    made a panicked 8 hour drive and my older brother made a
    panicked 10 hour drive to be by my side. It about scared my
    husband off. So, while I was lying in the ICU, I decided
    that some things had to change.

    When I start not caring, I remember the intensity of my
    husband's, parents' and siblings' fear of losing me. I also
    remember my fear of losing me. I now tend to business
    because I don't ever want that fear nor do I want to ever
    breath like that. (It hurts like hell.) For me, it took a
    major episode to wake me up. I hope that it won't take that
    for you. It is not pleasant, and you might not come not come
    out of it.

    I go through periods of "What's the use" and "Poor me" and
    "It doesn't matter." I think that a lot of people go
    through these dips. I also go through the frustration of
    doing what I am supposed to be doing, and things still go
    wrong. But I keep plugging away. You have to. You cannot
    wish it away, and you cannot ignore it. It will bite you in
    the ass if you try.

    So, pull your boots up by their bootstraps and take
    control of this.

    Steph

    "Stu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7C%bc.21682$Id.957@news-
    binary.blueyonder.co.uk...

    Quoted message said:

    Never had a weight problem, if anything im underweight yet
    I still contracted diabetes!!, Possibly a high metabolism
    countered the high


    weight

    Quoted message said:

    if I was gonna gain any, high consumption of sweets when I
    was a kid, probably didn't help but ive been a type 1 for
    18 years now and I can


    start

    Quoted message said:

    to see the effects of a being a badly controlled diabetic,

    1 Burning feet

    Quoted message said:

    3 Feeling like so**to most days 4 Eat what I like, don't
    care any more

    Anybody else like this or have been like this and got
    out of it?

    Stu

  19. Hi,

    Quoted message said:

    Type 1 is an autoimmune problem, not a weight problem.
    Weight is type
    2.

    I have normal weight and type 2 ...

    Mike

  20. So do a lot of people. :-)

    --
    Cheri
    Type 2, no meds for now.

    Michael Wäsch wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I have normal weight and type 2 ...

    Mike

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