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  1. Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

  2. On Nov 4, 5:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    Mine should be arriving sometime this week. At least, I got
    notification that it shipped on Thursday from SJS Cycles in England,
    and it's coming via Air Mail, so I'm hoping it's not much more than a
    week. I will report back with comparisons to my usual light, the
    DLumotec Oval Senso Plus (LED).

    And the measurements given are in Lux, not Lumen. Lux is Lumen times
    area (or as my brother the physics major put it, "photonic pressure"😉,
    so if their measurements are accurate, then yes, it should be that
    much more light on the road.

  3. On Nov 4, 5:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    Mine should be arriving sometime this week. At least, I got
    notification that it shipped on Thursday from SJS Cycles in England,
    and it's coming via Air Mail, so I'm hoping it's not much more than a
    week. I will report back with comparisons to my usual light, the
    DLumotec Oval Senso Plus (LED).

    And the measurements given are in Lux, not Lumen. Lux is Lumen times
    area (or as my brother the physics major put it, "photonic pressure"😉,
    so if their measurements are accurate, then yes, it should be that
    much more light on the road.

  4. On Nov 4, 8:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    I think the information you want is in the thread at
    http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8685&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
    or http://tinyurl.com/2oak98

    Pay special attention to Chris Juden's reply at the bottom of that
    page. He's probably the most renowned bike tech guy in Britain.

    Quotes:

    "It is subjectively a step-change brighter (an f-stop or two) than the
    best halogen bulb dynamo lamps I've used. "

    "The beam is the closest thing to a dipped car headlamp I've yet seen
    on a bike: progressively brighter and fanning out towards the top and
    then cutting off very sharply. Horizontal alignment is critical, but
    get it right and you can illuminate the road, ooh at least 100m ahead,
    without dazzling oncoming drivers. There is nevertheless enough upward
    scatter to make them dip (some even slow down!) and reflect from
    roadsigns up-a-pole. "

    "Thanks to the more accurate and task-specific focussing, compared to
    the simple cone of light you get from most LED lamps, less light is
    wasted in the sky etc. and although this unit has only the
    standardised 2.4W to go on, I find it more effective than battery
    driven LED lamps of more than double the electrical power. "

    It sounds pretty darn good!

    - Frank Krygowski

  5. On Nov 4, 8:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    I think the information you want is in the thread at
    http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8685&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
    or http://tinyurl.com/2oak98

    Pay special attention to Chris Juden's reply at the bottom of that
    page. He's probably the most renowned bike tech guy in Britain.

    Quotes:

    "It is subjectively a step-change brighter (an f-stop or two) than the
    best halogen bulb dynamo lamps I've used. "

    "The beam is the closest thing to a dipped car headlamp I've yet seen
    on a bike: progressively brighter and fanning out towards the top and
    then cutting off very sharply. Horizontal alignment is critical, but
    get it right and you can illuminate the road, ooh at least 100m ahead,
    without dazzling oncoming drivers. There is nevertheless enough upward
    scatter to make them dip (some even slow down!) and reflect from
    roadsigns up-a-pole. "

    "Thanks to the more accurate and task-specific focussing, compared to
    the simple cone of light you get from most LED lamps, less light is
    wasted in the sky etc. and although this unit has only the
    standardised 2.4W to go on, I find it more effective than battery
    driven LED lamps of more than double the electrical power. "

    It sounds pretty darn good!

    - Frank Krygowski

  6. Quoted message said:

    On Nov 4, 8:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    I think the information you want is in the thread at
    http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8685&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
    or http://tinyurl.com/2oak98

    Pay special attention to Chris Juden's reply at the bottom of that
    page. He's probably the most renowned bike tech guy in Britain.

    Quotes:

    "It is subjectively a step-change brighter (an f-stop or two) than the
    best halogen bulb dynamo lamps I've used. "

    "The beam is the closest thing to a dipped car headlamp I've yet seen
    on a bike: progressively brighter and fanning out towards the top and
    then cutting off very sharply. Horizontal alignment is critical, but
    get it right and you can illuminate the road, ooh at least 100m ahead,
    without dazzling oncoming drivers. There is nevertheless enough upward
    scatter to make them dip (some even slow down!) and reflect from
    roadsigns up-a-pole. "

    "Thanks to the more accurate and task-specific focussing, compared to
    the simple cone of light you get from most LED lamps, less light is
    wasted in the sky etc. and although this unit has only the
    standardised 2.4W to go on, I find it more effective than battery
    driven LED lamps of more than double the electrical power. "

    It sounds pretty darn good!

    - Frank Krygowski

    It is pretty nice, and on standlight it just keeps blazing away. In fact
    you could probably use it for offroad excursions!
    My impression sofar is that you can't see as far away with it as with an
    E6, probably because there is so much more light in the foreground. At
    20m the light just hits a wall. In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb. The
    angle adjustment of the lamp has three positions: sky, fronthub and in
    between. For a commuter it is probably the best dynolight available at
    the moment

    --
    /Marten

    info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

  7. Quoted message said:

    On Nov 4, 8:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Fly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignal Lumotec Round
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for the IQ fly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    How would the IQ fly compare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&M Lumotec round halogen light.

    BobT

    I think the information you want is in the thread at
    http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8685&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
    or http://tinyurl.com/2oak98

    Pay special attention to Chris Juden's reply at the bottom of that
    page. He's probably the most renowned bike tech guy in Britain.

    Quotes:

    "It is subjectively a step-change brighter (an f-stop or two) than the
    best halogen bulb dynamo lamps I've used. "

    "The beam is the closest thing to a dipped car headlamp I've yet seen
    on a bike: progressively brighter and fanning out towards the top and
    then cutting off very sharply. Horizontal alignment is critical, but
    get it right and you can illuminate the road, ooh at least 100m ahead,
    without dazzling oncoming drivers. There is nevertheless enough upward
    scatter to make them dip (some even slow down!) and reflect from
    roadsigns up-a-pole. "

    "Thanks to the more accurate and task-specific focussing, compared to
    the simple cone of light you get from most LED lamps, less light is
    wasted in the sky etc. and although this unit has only the
    standardised 2.4W to go on, I find it more effective than battery
    driven LED lamps of more than double the electrical power. "

    It sounds pretty darn good!

    - Frank Krygowski

    It is pretty nice, and on standlight it just keeps blazing away. In fact
    you could probably use it for offroad excursions!
    My impression sofar is that you can't see as far away with it as with an
    E6, probably because there is so much more light in the foreground. At
    20m the light just hits a wall. In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb. The
    angle adjustment of the lamp has three positions: sky, fronthub and in
    between. For a commuter it is probably the best dynolight available at
    the moment

    --
    /Marten

    info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

  8. M-gineering said:

    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    And of course, there are the yellow French headlights, yellow fog
    lamps, and yellow "dim light" shooters' glasses, all purported to have
    advantages in penetration.

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    - Frank Krygowski

  9. M-gineering said:

    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    And of course, there are the yellow French headlights, yellow fog
    lamps, and yellow "dim light" shooters' glasses, all purported to have
    advantages in penetration.

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    - Frank Krygowski

  10. Quoted message said:
    M-gineering said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    The light itself is very cool white, nu blueish tinge but no yellow or
    reds either.

    Quoted message said:

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows and
    dirt disappears

    Quoted message said:


    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    LED light is fairly monochromatic. Loads of males are colourblind. It
    would be interesting to see if it benefits everyone equally

    --
    /Marten

    info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

  11. Quoted message said:
    M-gineering said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    The light itself is very cool white, nu blueish tinge but no yellow or
    reds either.

    Quoted message said:

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows and
    dirt disappears

    Quoted message said:


    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    LED light is fairly monochromatic. Loads of males are colourblind. It
    would be interesting to see if it benefits everyone equally

    --
    /Marten

    info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

  12. Quoted message said:
    M-gineering said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    And of course, there are the yellow French headlights, yellow fog
    lamps, and yellow "dim light" shooters' glasses, all purported to have
    advantages in penetration.

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    - Frank Krygowski

    Try wearing yellow tinted glasses to replicate the effect.

    Dorf

  13. Quoted message said:
    M-gineering said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour
    seems to my eyes to be a lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as seen
    by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that most
    "white" LEDs seem to have?

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of the
    reason for what you saw.

    And of course, there are the yellow French headlights, yellow fog
    lamps, and yellow "dim light" shooters' glasses, all purported to have
    advantages in penetration.

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    - Frank Krygowski

    Try wearing yellow tinted glasses to replicate the effect.

    Dorf

  14. M-gineering said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Nov 5, 3:37 am, M-gineering <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour seems to my eyes to be a
    lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as
    seen by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that
    most "white" LEDs seem to have?

    The light itself is very cool white, nu blueish tinge but no yellow
    or reds either.

    Quoted message said:

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of
    the reason for what you saw.

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows
    and dirt disappears

    The dark-adapted human eye is most sensitive to green light (507 nm).
    Night vision (rods) does not perceive red, which is why astronomers use
    red light at night to read star charts and the like- it minimally
    affects dark adaptation. In daylight our eyes are most sensitive to
    blue light 555 nm.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    LED light is fairly monochromatic. Loads of males are colourblind. It
    would be interesting to see if it benefits everyone equally

    ISTR that blue light scatters more easily in air, fog, particulates, etc.

  15. M-gineering said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Nov 5, 3:37 am, M-gineering <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    In rain & drizzle the LED light colour seems to my eyes to be a
    lot less effective than a halogen bulb.

    That's interesting. Can you comment on the color of the light as
    seen by an approaching driver? Does it have the bluish tinge that
    most "white" LEDs seem to have?

    The light itself is very cool white, nu blueish tinge but no yellow
    or reds either.

    Quoted message said:

    I've read that blue light tends to refract and scatter within the
    human eye more than yellow light does. I wonder if that's part of
    the reason for what you saw.

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows
    and dirt disappears

    The dark-adapted human eye is most sensitive to green light (507 nm).
    Night vision (rods) does not perceive red, which is why astronomers use
    red light at night to read star charts and the like- it minimally
    affects dark adaptation. In daylight our eyes are most sensitive to
    blue light 555 nm.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are we losing something by moving to whiter, or "bluer" lights?

    LED light is fairly monochromatic. Loads of males are colourblind. It
    would be interesting to see if it benefits everyone equally

    ISTR that blue light scatters more easily in air, fog, particulates, etc.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    M-gineering said:

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows and
    dirt disappears

    Least sensitive to red.
    Furthermore red is the least energetic end of our
    visible spectrum. Red light is least inimical to
    the dark adapted eye.

    --
    Michael Press

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    M-gineering said:

    Isn't the human eye more sentitive for reds? (ISTR that it would have
    been better for cars to have red lights up front and white's at the
    rear, but that changing over was to difficult 😉 )Anyhow in rainy
    conditions you get a lot of glare from puddles and raindrops and the
    contrast or colour difference between black tarmac, grass, shadows and
    dirt disappears

    Least sensitive to red.
    Furthermore red is the least energetic end of our
    visible spectrum. Red light is least inimical to
    the dark adapted eye.

    --
    Michael Press

  18. Hank Wirtz said:

    On Nov 4, 5:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and MullerLumotecIQFly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    Quoted message said:

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike that has
    a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    Quoted message said:

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignalLumotecRound
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for this
    halogen light and 40 lumens for theIQfly. Does the more than double bulb
    luminosity translate to proportional that much more light on the road?

    Quoted message said:

    How would theIQflycompare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience (in
    an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more light on the
    road than the B&MLumotecround halogen light.

    Quoted message said:

    BobT

    Mine should be arriving sometime this week. At least, I got
    notification that it shipped on Thursday from SJS Cycles in England,
    and it's coming via Air Mail, so I'm hoping it's not much more than a
    week. I will report back with comparisons to my usual light, the
    DLumotec Oval Senso Plus (LED).

    And the measurements given are in Lux, not Lumen. Lux is Lumen times
    area (or as my brother the physics major put it, "photonic pressure"😉,
    so if their measurements are accurate, then yes, it should be that
    much more light on the road.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    OK, I got this light about 3 weeks ago, but weather's been lousy, so I
    only completed my third ride with this light today, and the first
    where the pavement wasn't wet to skew my perception.

    First off, yes, it's really stinkin' bright. And especially bright is
    the standlight. The standlight could be mistaken for a DLumotec Oval
    at full brightness. It's VERY impressive. And when riding, the beam
    shines wide and far. It's beam is at least twice as wide as the
    DLumotec Oval. The case has a 3-way tilt feature, for high, mid and
    low beam. Aimed high, I can get useful illumination probably 75 meters
    out. The middle position is good for fog, or to be nice to an oncoming
    rider. With the high position aimed about 75 meters out, the middle
    one is about 20 meters out. The low, which I don't use, is only about
    6 meters.

    Now, for the bad. First, the new-style bent-rod bracket is useless. My
    front brake bolt wasn't long enough, and even if it was, the bracket
    rubbed on the lower cup of my headset. Thankfully, I had a spare
    stamped bracket from my DLumotec Oval, so I just continued to use
    that. The other downside is that the reflector is aimed long, and has
    very little spillage. The downside is that you get a small swath of
    light down on your tire, then a dead spot until about 5 meters out
    when the lamp is aimed high. In the middle position, it's still about
    4 meters in front of you before the light starts. That's with the lamp
    mounted on the fork crown. I wouldn't even consider a handlebar mount,
    which would make the problem much worse. For the short term, I've got
    a Cateye 230 LED that runs off of 4 AAs on my handlebar, pointed
    sharply down, which fills in the dead spot. I'm thinking a secondary
    Lumotec Oval wired into the dynamo's circuit will probably be my long-
    term solution.

    In summary, this is a fantastic light and well worth its price (60
    GBP, minus VAT, +8GBP shipping, about $120 all told) when used with a
    secondary light. As a single light, the dead spot is a big problem.
    Also, order an old-style bracket at the same time to save the shipping
    cost later.

  19. Hank Wirtz said:
    Hank Wirtz said:

    On Nov 4, 5:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any experience with the Busch and MullerLumotecIQFly
    headlamp?
    I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    available.

    Quoted message said:

    I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike
    that has a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    Quoted message said:

    How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignalLumotecRound
    halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for
    this halogen light and 40 lumens for theIQfly. Does the more than
    double bulb luminosity translate to proportional that much more light
    on the road?

    Quoted message said:

    How would theIQflycompare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience
    (in an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more
    light on the road than the B&MLumotecround halogen light.

    Quoted message said:

    BobT

    Mine should be arriving sometime this week. At least, I got
    notification that it shipped on Thursday from SJS Cycles in England,
    and it's coming via Air Mail, so I'm hoping it's not much more than a
    week. I will report back with comparisons to my usual light, the
    DLumotec Oval Senso Plus (LED).

    And the measurements given are in Lux, not Lumen. Lux is Lumen times
    area (or as my brother the physics major put it, "photonic pressure"😉,
    so if their measurements are accurate, then yes, it should be that much
    more light on the road.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    OK, I got this light about 3 weeks ago, but weather's been lousy, so I
    only completed my third ride with this light today, and the first where
    the pavement wasn't wet to skew my perception.

    First off, yes, it's really stinkin' bright. And especially bright is
    the standlight. The standlight could be mistaken for a DLumotec Oval at
    full brightness. It's VERY impressive. And when riding, the beam shines
    wide and far. It's beam is at least twice as wide as the DLumotec Oval.
    The case has a 3-way tilt feature, for high, mid and low beam. Aimed
    high, I can get useful illumination probably 75 meters out. The middle
    position is good for fog, or to be nice to an oncoming rider. With the
    high position aimed about 75 meters out, the middle one is about 20
    meters out. The low, which I don't use, is only about 6 meters.

    What's also impressive is how bright it is at very low speeds.

    Quoted message said:


    Now, for the bad. First, the new-style bent-rod bracket is useless. My
    front brake bolt wasn't long enough, and even if it was, the bracket
    rubbed on the lower cup of my headset.

    I like the new bracket. I've had a couple of the stamped ones break
    because of fatigue. The new one seems more robust, in my layman's
    opinion. The length of the brake bolt is usually not an issue if you use
    a longer recessed nut, and you can probably eliminate the rubbing by
    putting a washer between the fork crown and the bracket.

    Quoted message said:

    Thankfully, I had a spare stamped
    bracket from my DLumotec Oval, so I just continued to use that. The
    other downside is that the reflector is aimed long, and has very little
    spillage. The downside is that you get a small swath of light down on
    your tire, then a dead spot until about 5 meters out when the lamp is
    aimed high.

    The Inoled 20 also has a dead spot. I assume that's because in both
    lights the led is not front and center and they rely on reflectors to
    shape the beam. The IQ Fly is an improvement over the Inoled in that
    respect -- the dead spot seems smaller and less dark. It's never really
    bothered me in any event; it's possible that I aim the beam lower than
    you do.

    Quoted message said:

    In the middle position, it's still about 4 meters in front
    of you before the light starts. That's with the lamp mounted on the fork
    crown. I wouldn't even consider a handlebar mount, which would make the
    problem much worse. For the short term, I've got a Cateye 230 LED that
    runs off of 4 AAs on my handlebar, pointed sharply down, which fills in
    the dead spot. I'm thinking a secondary Lumotec Oval wired into the
    dynamo's circuit will probably be my long- term solution.

    In summary, this is a fantastic light and well worth its price (60 GBP,
    minus VAT, +8GBP shipping, about $120 all told) when used with a
    secondary light. As a single light, the dead spot is a big problem.
    Also, order an old-style bracket at the same time to save the shipping
    cost later.

  20. Gary Young said:
    Hank Wirtz said:
    Hank Wirtz said:

    On Nov 4, 5:58 pm, "BobT" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Anyone have any experience with the Busch and MullerLumotecIQFly
    > headlamp?
    > I live in the U.S.A. where, I best as I can tell, they are not yet
    > available.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I am considering rearranging the lights on my touring/commuter bike
    > that has a Schimdt hub dynamo.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > How is the brightness on the road compared to a orignalLumotecRound
    > halogen headlight. I note that the B&M website shows 17 lumens for
    > this halogen light and 40 lumens for theIQfly. Does the more than
    > double bulb luminosity translate to proportional that much more light
    > on the road?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > How would theIQflycompare to a Schmidt E6 headlamp? In my experience
    > (in an unscientific test with my eyeballs) the E6 puts much more
    > light on the road than the B&MLumotecround halogen light.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > BobT

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mine should be arriving sometime this week. At least, I got
    notification that it shipped on Thursday from SJS Cycles in England,
    and it's coming via Air Mail, so I'm hoping it's not much more than a
    week. I will report back with comparisons to my usual light, the
    DLumotec Oval Senso Plus (LED).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And the measurements given are in Lux, not Lumen. Lux is Lumen times
    area (or as my brother the physics major put it, "photonic pressure"😉,
    so if their measurements are accurate, then yes, it should be that much
    more light on the road.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I got this light about 3 weeks ago, but weather's been lousy, so I
    only completed my third ride with this light today, and the first where
    the pavement wasn't wet to skew my perception.

    Quoted message said:

    First off, yes, it's really stinkin' bright. And especially bright is
    the standlight. The standlight could be mistaken for a DLumotec Oval at
    full brightness. It's VERY impressive. And when riding, the beam shines
    wide and far. It's beam is at least twice as wide as the DLumotec Oval.
    The case has a 3-way tilt feature, for high, mid and low beam. Aimed
    high, I can get useful illumination probably 75 meters out. The middle
    position is good for fog, or to be nice to an oncoming rider. With the
    high position aimed about 75 meters out, the middle one is about 20
    meters out. The low, which I don't use, is only about 6 meters.

    What's also impressive is how bright it is at very low speeds.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, for the bad. First, the new-style bent-rod bracket is useless. My
    front brake bolt wasn't long enough, and even if it was, the bracket
    rubbed on the lower cup of my headset.

    I like the new bracket. I've had a couple of the stamped ones break
    because of fatigue. The new one seems more robust, in my layman's
    opinion. The length of the brake bolt is usually not an issue if you use
    a longer recessed nut, and you can probably eliminate the rubbing by
    putting a washer between the fork crown and the bracket.

    Alas, I don't want to use a long nut, because I'm using Sheldon Nuts
    to mount my fenders. If I switch back to a regular recessed nut, I
    lose about three inches of coverage.

    DAMN YOU, SHELDON!!!

    🙂

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