Burns

JimLane said:

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Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
mad. what will =

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take the pain away?

Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff
about butter=

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and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been
superseded by better=20 ones.

Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns.
The trauma unit=

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of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place
one year. I=20 spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365=B0F) on
my hand in the room where th=

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were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big
pitcher of=20 iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen
that way. Hand got numb=20 pretty quickly. Tea was all
down the front of my pants and that cost=20 me a lot of
razzing over the next week or so.

Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice
into a plastic=20 bag, put a little water in it and put
my hand into it. Closed it=20 around my wrist and told me
to keep it that way for 4 hours,=20 replenishing the ice
as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take =

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the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got
to be too=20 much) every 15 minutes or so for
circulation.

Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of
skin. A little =

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redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.

The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious
had they not=

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acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard
kitchen=20 treatment was cold. Ice first then water as
needed. Our incidence of=20 serious injury diminished
drastically.

The value of that approach was made very clear a while
later. The same=

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accident happened to two people a day apart. Server
picking up a glass=

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coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down
the legs with =

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hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in
cooler, pants off=20 and ice water poured over her legs
for about a half hour. Not even=20 redness except under
the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice=20 at the
time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who
said he'd=

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just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He
missed 4 days=20 of work from the extreme discomfort of
the scorched skin and blisters.=

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Pastorio

I've been told that you have to be very careful in
removing any=20 clothing.

If there's charring or severe blistering, clothing will need
to be cut=20 off, best done by trained medfolk.

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I saw a young child bump into his mom at a Salt Lake
City=20 coffee place and get the large cup of straight out
of the pot hot coffe=

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down his back. Within seconds pitchers of ice water were
dumped on the =

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area and a ice water wet towel full of ice was applied
over his shirt. =

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Did your patrons say anything about clothing?

Several of my patrons were pleased when the server
whisked off her=20 pants. Otherwise there were no
comments about wardrobe.

Pastorio

Deacon said:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:21:43 -0400, "Bob (this one)"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns.
The trauma unit of a local hospital had their X-mas
banquet in my place one year. I spilled hot oil (fondue
pot - 365=B0F) on my hand in the room where they were.
One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher
of iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way.
Hand got numb pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front
of my pants and that cost me a lot of razzing over the
next week or so.
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Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice
into a plastic bag, put a little water in it and put my
hand into it. Closed it around my wrist and told me to
keep it that way for 4 hours, replenishing the ice as
needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take the hand
out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too
much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
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Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off
of skin. A little redness that disappeared in about
24 hours.
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The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious
had they not acted as quickly as they did. After that,
our standard kitchen treatment was cold. Ice first then
water as needed. Our incidence of serious injury
diminished drastically.

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Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tell
you that=20 keeping a body part on ice for four hours is
not taught anymore for burn treatment. Cold water until
the burning sensation subsides

About 10 years ago. I wasn't taught anything about burn
treatment, I=20 saw that this thing worked, so I did it.

I don't mean this to sound as brusque as it seems, but I can
tell you=20 that being burned is an excruciating pain and
anything that stops it=20 is fine with me.

I kept the hand cold until it didn't hurt anymore; not
always in ice.=20 First, ice, then ice water and then cold
tap water. Then, when it=20 didn't hurt any more, I stopped.

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is all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further
tissue death.

I guess I didn't understand the potential for that, but at
that time,=20 I didn't care if I lost some tissue as long as
I didn't have to endure=20 the pain. She told me to keep it
cold but to give it a breather every=20 few minutes. That's
when I could find out if it was still painful.=20 While it
was hurting, I kept it cold. After it wasn't, I stopped.

That hot oil on the back of my hand was astoundingly
painful; it=20 literally hurt so badly that I couldn't
breathe or talk for a while.=20 Found myself trembling as
the shock began to wear off; not from the=20 cold on my
hand. The burn covered the area between my wrist and the=20
beginning of my fingers, side to side; a good 4 inches by 4
inches=20 splashed with hot oil.

I kept it cold until it didn't hurt anymore and unless
there's a=20 better way to deal with it, would do exactly
the same today. I just=20 wanted that literally searing pain
to stop. I've had some very serious=20 injuries in my life,
but nothing hurt as bad as that burn.

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Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few
years....

What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on.
Probably=20 ought to look into it.

Pastorio

Tony Walton said:

On 2004-06-12 17:28:43 +0100, [email hidden]

(Curly Sue) said:

For minor household burns it helps to keep small packs of
blue ice in the freezer.

Blue ice?

That gel packed in plastic containers (some soft, some hard
plastic) that you keep in the freezer and put in coolers or
lunch packs. It comes in different sizes. I think it can be
purchased all year round but easier to find in summer or the
beginning of the school year.

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

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If there's charring or severe blistering, clothing will need
to be cut off, best done by trained medfolk.

Exactly what clothing would you cut off for a burned finger
(what the OP was asking about)?

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Peter Aitken

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Ok Laugh as you may but as an experienced restaurant cook
for the last 25 years I will let you in on my
secret...Mustard!!! There is always a bottle handy and if
put on immediatley, before anything else... it works....let
it set for about 10 or 15 minutes, longer if possible. Trust
me, it will get red and irritated but it will not blister!!
I have scalded myself with boiling water, had grease from
the fryer and grease off the flattop splash up at me..bad
burns but no blisters and no infections...had a old home-ec
teacher show me this trick years ago and I swear by
it...sorry for the intrusion but have been lurking around
here for a long time and had to put in my 2 cents

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Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad.
what will take the pain away?

Ouch!! I hope it's feeling better now. My cure is to run
it under water, apply aloe vera and if it still burns take
one Tylenol.

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|| mad. what will take the pain away?

Ice.

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Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad.
what will take the pain away?

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Lynne x

Water Jel Burn Jel. It is available in 4 oz. bottles and
also squeeze packets. Keep some in the kitchen and a packet
in the toolbox or any other place that you may get a burn.
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Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad.
what will take the pain away?

I agree with the other aloe posters. It needs to be from the
plant, though, not the bottled stuff.

Big Brother is a chef. He had a terrible burn caused by
serious stupidity. Doc gave him Silvadine (sp?). The
stuff is a wonder for burns. The only hitch is that it's
prescription. If you have a good doc and you tend to get
burns somewhat often--serious or minor--it might be a
good option.

Lou-Lou in NC

The best way to remedial any burns is to put it under the
tap with cold water (the colder the better) for 5-10 minutes
depending on the degree of burnt.

Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad.
what will take the pain away?

--
Lynne x

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Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
mad. what will

take

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the pain away?

Emu oil. Seriously...

Do you have any idea how much stress the poor emus go
through when they make them sweat to produce that product?
If you knew you would never touch the stuff again. Emu oil
is most idealogically unsound.

David

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"Lynne Airhead" babbled:

I burnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
mad. what will

take

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the pain away?

Either of your nether orifices will do. Idiot!

AOLer-figures.

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That's a dumb *LYING* greaseball WOP for ya.

sheldon, i've read many of your posts and some of them are
pretty damn good. others are opinionated to put it mildly. i
put a little thought into this and i've come to the
conclusion that you have new and rare disorder that i'm in
the process of discorvering. it's called "cyber tourette's".
it's characterized by a seemingly normal people who
uncontrollably post profane and racially charged drivel to
usenet. studies are ongoing however, early data suggests
that aol could play a significant role in the progression of
cyber tourette's. ;-)

Hark! I heard [email hidden] (diane) say:

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Ok Laugh as you may but as an experienced restaurant
cook for the last 25 years I will let you in on my
secret...Mustard!!! There is always a bottle handy and
if put on immediatley, before anything else... it
works....let it set for about 10 or 15 minutes, longer
if possible. Trust me, it will get red and irritated
but it will not blister!! I have scalded myself with
boiling water, had grease from the fryer and grease off
the flattop splash up at me..bad burns but no blisters
and no infections...had a old home-ec teacher show me
this trick years ago and I swear by it...

Interesting -- about 33 years ago, I got a nasty burn by
backing into a propane stove; actually pulled a layer of
skin away. At the hospital, the put a mustard pack on it. I
don't remember if it helped the pain or not, but I don't
have a scar now.

Then again, that was a long time ago...

--
J.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail) ~ mom, vid
gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads, fish heads, eat
them up, yum!

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Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad.
what will take the pain away?

Heroin.

heh !

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|| In rec.food.cooking, Lynne <[email hidden]>
|| wrote:
|| > Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
|| > mad. what will take the pain away?
||
|| Heroin.

Internal or external application?

--

Do what ye will and harm none.

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Deacon said:

Bob (this one) said:

Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
mad. what will take the pain away?

Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff
about butter and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have
been superseded by better ones.

Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns.
The trauma unit of a local hospital had their X-mas
banquet in my place one year. I spilled hot oil (fondue
pot - 365°F) on my hand in the room where they were. One
of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of
iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand
got numb pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my
pants and that cost me a lot of razzing over the next
week or so.

Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice
into a plastic bag, put a little water in it and put my
hand into it. Closed it around my wrist and told me to
keep it that way for 4 hours, replenishing the ice as
needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take the hand
out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too
much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.

Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off
of skin. A little redness that disappeared in about
24 hours.

The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious
had they not acted as quickly as they did. After that,
our standard kitchen treatment was cold. Ice first then
water as needed. Our incidence of serious injury
diminished drastically.

The value of that approach was made very clear a while
later. The same accident happened to two people a day
apart. Server picking up a glass coffee pot had the
bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with hot
coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler,
pants off and ice water poured over her legs for about a
half hour. Not even redness except under the straps of
her shoes (which we didn't notice at the time). Next day,
same accident to one of the guys who said he'd just shake
it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days
of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin
and blisters.

Pastorio

Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tellyou
that keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not
taught anymore for burn treatment. Cold water until the
burning sensation subsides is all you need, don't use ice
as it can cause further tissue death.

Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few
years....

Yes, it has indeed... I have nothing to gain from promoting
emu oil for burns as my birds are only pets. I do make a
little money off of their feathers on ebay, but it hardly
covers their feed. ;-) They are pets and emus must be
slaughtered to harvest the oil from the body fat. It's the
most valuable part of the bird. I don't raise them for meat
anymore and sell any chicks that Oberon my rooster may hatch
each season. I ain't gonna kill my lovlies!

I have personally experienced the results of using just that
on burns and insect bites, nothing else.

I know it sounds radical and silly, but I've had white skin
showing second degree cooking burns and applying emu oil
within minutes of getting the injury has taken away the pain
in less than 5 minutes every time and prevented blistering.
When you burn yourself, you've killed a layer of skin no
matter what you do and it will peel off in good time. I've
never, ever ended up with oozing wounds or scarring when I
use emu oil.

It has also taken away the pain within just a few minutes
from wasp stings to my hands, and fire ant bites on my feet.

It is truly wonderful stuff.

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Studies have proven emu oil to be far more effective
than Silvadene on even 3rd degree burns to reduce or
prevent scarring.

I have friends at work now that swear by it for diaper rash
on babies, and sunburns on both kids and adults.

K.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Lynne said:

Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
mad. what will

take

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the pain away?

Emu oil. Seriously...

Do you have any idea how much stress the poor emus go
through when they make them sweat to produce that product?
If you knew you would never touch the stuff again. Emu oil
is most idealogically unsound.

David

What stress? A bullet behind the eye usually takes care of
it instantly. ;-)

And emu meat is delicious.

I'm sure you were just kidding. Emu oil is rendered from the
body fat. The average slaughter age emu can produce up to 5
gallons of oil if it's fed properly.

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|| In rec.food.cooking, Lynne
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| > Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like
|| > mad. what will take the pain away?
||
|| Heroin.

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Internal or external application?

Generally, it is ingested. Nothing works better for pain. Of
course, the side effects can be a problem.

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Bob (this one) said:

Deacon wrote:

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Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few
years....

What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up
on. Probably ought to look into it.

Cold [water or other liquid], preferably running, for at
least 10 minutes.

I can speak to the effectiveness of this treatment. No
blisters, no scar.

Miche

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