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  1. Hello,
    I have read that to burn fat is to do cardio in the morning on an empty
    stomach and wait one hour before eating breakfast, makes sense?
    Unfortunately, I do not have the luxuary of waking up early in the
    morning to do this. When I wake up, I usually have a protein shake (300
    calories). Around 10:30am I get very hungry and have a half
    peanutbutter and jelly sandwich, then at noon I'll go to the gym and do
    cardio for about 25 minutes. I usually wait about an hour after cardio
    to eat (by that time, I'm really hungry). I usually eat a high protein
    meal around 1:30pm. I am wondering if this is a good program? I have
    heard that running in the evening is not that effective for burning
    fat, is that true, or could somebody recommend a better way? Thanks in
    advance.

    usaims

  2. Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told you this
    ridiculous advice?

  3. "usaims" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I have read that to burn fat is to do cardio in the morning on an
    empty
    stomach and wait one hour before eating breakfast, makes sense?
    Unfortunately, I do not have the luxuary of waking up early in the
    morning to do this. When I wake up, I usually have a protein shake
    (300
    calories). Around 10:30am I get very hungry and have a half
    peanutbutter and jelly sandwich, then at noon I'll go to the gym and
    do
    cardio for about 25 minutes. I usually wait about an hour after cardio
    to eat (by that time, I'm really hungry). I usually eat a high protein
    meal around 1:30pm. I am wondering if this is a good program? I have
    heard that running in the evening is not that effective for burning
    fat, is that true, or could somebody recommend a better way? Thanks in
    advance.

    Morning cardio may help somewhat, but the time of day isn't as important
    as the overall balance of calories in versus calories out. Since many
    people create grand fitness plans that they then stop following, I
    suggest you find a schedule that works for you and not worry too much
    about doing your cardio in the morning.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  4. Its in Chris Aceto's book on bodybuilding and nutrition.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told you this
    ridiculous advice?

    John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut the
    not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think. The idea
    is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen levels should
    be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat almost immedialtely.

    The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might also
    burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils and also
    eating when your done (and throughout the day) that musle loss is
    minimal.

    Your mileage may vary.
    Jason Burnell
    http://www.deepsquatter.com

  6. Doesn't eating after cardio defeats the purpose of burning fat? After
    cardio, rather than the body burn body fat for fuel, its going straight
    to that stomach full of yummy food? Am I correct, I'm not a
    nutritionist.

    usaims

  7. usaims said:

    then at noon I'll go to the gym and do cardio for about
    25 minutes.

    Doing only 25minutes of cardio a day isnt much of an activity dent,
    depending on what your goals are. Maybe for maintaining your current
    weight, but certainly not for fatloss. And I am assuming you also lift
    weights? If you dont, you should.

    joanne

  8. usaims said:

    Doesn't eating after cardio defeats the purpose of burning fat? After

    Doesn't eating at any time defeat the purpose of burning fat ?

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  9. usaims said:

    Hello,
    I have read that to burn fat is to do cardio in the morning on an empty
    stomach and wait one hour before eating breakfast, makes sense?

    Not really.

    Quoted message said:

    meal around 1:30pm. I am wondering if this is a good program? I have
    heard that running in the evening is not that effective for burning
    fat,

    Bollocks.

    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  10. Then Chris a frikin moron. If you want advice on running or losing
    weight, ask runners, not muscle bound [censored].

  11. Pretty much what I said.

  12. Jason Burnell wrote:
    :: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    ::
    ::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told you
    ::: this ridiculous advice?
    ::
    ::
    :: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut the
    :: not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think. The idea
    :: is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen levels should
    :: be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat almost immedialtely.

    at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't think that
    the low point would be very low relative to the amount of stored glycogen
    possible (assuming person is using a typical non-low carb diet)

    ::
    :: The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might also
    :: burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils and also
    :: eating when your done (and throughout the day) that musle loss is
    :: minimal.
    ::
    :: Your mileage may vary.
    :: Jason Burnell
    :: http://www.deepsquatter.com

  13. "Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "usaims" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I have read that to burn fat is to do cardio in the morning on an
    empty
    stomach and wait one hour before eating breakfast, makes sense?
    Unfortunately, I do not have the luxuary of waking up early in the
    morning to do this. When I wake up, I usually have a protein shake
    (300
    calories). Around 10:30am I get very hungry and have a half
    peanutbutter and jelly sandwich, then at noon I'll go to the gym and
    do
    cardio for about 25 minutes. I usually wait about an hour after cardio
    to eat (by that time, I'm really hungry). I usually eat a high protein
    meal around 1:30pm. I am wondering if this is a good program? I have
    heard that running in the evening is not that effective for burning
    fat, is that true, or could somebody recommend a better way? Thanks in
    advance.

    Morning cardio may help somewhat, but the time of day isn't as important
    as the overall balance of calories in versus calories out. Since many
    people create grand fitness plans that they then stop following, I
    suggest you find a schedule that works for you and not worry too much
    about doing your cardio in the morning.

    Your post is far too well-reasoned, and lacks the acerbic, condescending
    tone required of posts in mfw.

    Please consult the FAQ so you don't repeat this mistake in future...you [censored]
    twit.

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  14. joanne wrote:
    :: usaims wrote:
    ::: then at noon I'll go to the gym and do cardio for about
    ::: 25 minutes.
    ::
    :: Doing only 25minutes of cardio a day isnt much of an activity dent,
    :: depending on what your goals are. Maybe for maintaining your current
    :: weight, but certainly not for fatloss. And I am assuming you also
    :: lift weights? If you dont, you should.

    If you control calorie intake, even 25 minutes of cardio can help with
    fatloss. Might be slow fat loss, but it's fat loss.

    ::
    ::
    :: joanne

  15. usaims said:

    Doesn't eating after cardio defeats the purpose of burning fat?

    Perhaps. I really don't know. My take is that I'd rather defeat that
    purpose a bit rather than burn up more muscle tissue.

    Quoted message said:

    After
    cardio, rather than the body burn body fat for fuel, its going straight
    to that stomach full of yummy food? Am I correct, I'm not a
    nutritionist.

    Again, I'd do the cardio... ok.. I'm a powerlifter and those that
    know me will call me on the words "I'd do the cardio" so let me
    rephrase that..... I'd THEORETICALLY do the cardio.... for 30-40
    minutes and then eat something...

    Quoted message said:


    usaims

    Jason Burnell
    http://www.deepsquatter.com

  16. Roger Zoul said:

    Jason Burnell wrote:
    :: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    ::
    ::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told you
    ::: this ridiculous advice?
    ::
    ::
    :: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut the
    :: not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think. The idea
    :: is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen levels should
    :: be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat almost immedialtely.

    at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't think that
    the low point would be very low relative to the amount of stored glycogen
    possible (assuming person is using a typical non-low carb diet)

    Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
    in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
    eating every few hours.

    Quoted message said:

    ::
    :: The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might also
    :: burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils and also
    :: eating when your done (and throughout the day) that musle loss is
    :: minimal.
    ::
    :: Your mileage may vary.
    :: Jason Burnell
    :: http://www.deepsquatter.com

    Jason Burnell
    http://www.deepsquatter.com

  17. "Jason Burnell" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    usaims said:

    Doesn't eating after cardio defeats the purpose of burning fat?

    Perhaps. I really don't know. My take is that I'd rather defeat that
    purpose a bit rather than burn up more muscle tissue.

    Quoted message said:

    After
    cardio, rather than the body burn body fat for fuel, its going straight
    to that stomach full of yummy food? Am I correct, I'm not a
    nutritionist.

    Again, I'd do the cardio... ok.. I'm a powerlifter and those that
    know me will call me on the words "I'd do the cardio" so let me
    rephrase that..... I'd THEORETICALLY do the cardio.... for 30-40
    minutes and then eat something...

    Wuss! Can't eat DURING cardio? Sensitive stomach?

    🙂

    David

  18. Jason Burnell wrote:
    :: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Jason Burnell wrote:
    ::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    :::::
    :::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
    :::::: you this ridiculous advice?
    :::::
    :::::
    ::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
    ::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
    ::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
    ::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
    ::::: almost immedialtely.
    :::
    ::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
    ::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
    ::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
    ::: non-low carb diet)
    :::
    ::
    :: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
    :: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
    :: eating every few hours.

    And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
    be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
    of carbs.

    :::::
    ::::: The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might
    ::::: also burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils
    ::::: and also eating when your done (and throughout the day) that
    ::::: musle loss is minimal.
    :::::
    ::::: Your mileage may vary.
    ::::: Jason Burnell
    ::::: http://www.deepsquatter.com
    :::
    ::
    :: Jason Burnell
    :: http://www.deepsquatter.com

  19. Roger Zoul said:

    Jason Burnell wrote:
    :: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Jason Burnell wrote:
    ::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    :::::
    :::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
    :::::: you this ridiculous advice?
    :::::
    :::::
    ::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
    ::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
    ::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
    ::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
    ::::: almost immedialtely.
    :::
    ::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
    ::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
    ::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
    ::: non-low carb diet)
    :::
    ::
    :: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
    :: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
    :: eating every few hours.

    And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
    be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
    of carbs.


    actually, this talk of blood sugar borders on scam. writers
    trying to make money selling books say something that
    sounds good. but it's wrong. go ahead. check your blood
    sugar in the morning. it'll be regular. might even be high.
    the body naturally starts raising it prepatory to waking up.
    ....thehick

  20. Roger Zoul said:

    Jason Burnell wrote:
    :: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Jason Burnell wrote:
    ::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    :::::
    :::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
    :::::: you this ridiculous advice?
    :::::
    :::::
    ::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
    ::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
    ::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
    ::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
    ::::: almost immedialtely.
    :::
    ::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
    ::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
    ::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
    ::: non-low carb diet)
    :::
    ::
    :: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
    :: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
    :: eating every few hours.

    And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
    be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
    of carbs.

    If I were trying to dro bodyfat and do cardio, I'd be cutting the
    carbs down....

    Quoted message said:


    :::::
    ::::: The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might
    ::::: also burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils
    ::::: and also eating when your done (and throughout the day) that
    ::::: musle loss is minimal.
    :::::
    ::::: Your mileage may vary.
    ::::: Jason Burnell
    ::::: http://www.deepsquatter.com
    :::
    ::
    :: Jason Burnell
    :: http://www.deepsquatter.com

    Jason Burnell
    http://www.deepsquatter.com

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