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  1. I was reminded yesterday of the importance of signalling your intent when
    riding in a bunch.....I was riding along the Yarra Trail with my 8 y.o. son
    and 6 y.o. daughter. I had only recently been able to convince my daughter
    that she didn't need training wheels and this was pretty well our first ride
    together with all three of us on two wheels only. We were cruising along
    and my daughter was doing really well, even ringing her bell at any walkers
    and other riders that we saw. Anyway, she was in front, I was about 5m to
    8m or so behind her and my son was another 5m or so behind me. We were
    cruising along on a slight downhill at no great speed (less than 10km/h) and
    as I decided to have a drink, my son asked me something. I turned my head
    for a second or two to see what he was on about and when I looked back to
    the front, my daughter had stopped dead in front of me and I was about to
    hit her. I only had my left hand on the bars and I locked up the rear tyre
    but still managed to scone the back of her head with my right bar-end
    (fortunately she had a helmet on). We got tangled up and I fell away from
    her to the left....I had already taken my right foot out as we crashed but
    didn't get the left one out in time.....was all in slow motion as I toppled
    over and landed on the ground and my daughter also came over on top of me
    and my bike. I half managed to prop her up as she fell and then had to
    untangle both her and myself from the bikes. I lost a bit of skin off my
    elbow and my daughter had a couple of scratches on her legs where she got
    tangled in the bikes but the worst part I think was the shock of the whole
    thing to her. She was really upset and it took a good 5 minutes of cuddling
    and coaxing before I convinced her to get back on the bike with strict
    instructions to say "Daddy I'm Stopping" very clearly prior to her hitting
    the anchors. The rest of the ride was pretty uneventful and she stopped at
    least 10 more times without forgetting to give the signal first......gotta
    teach them young.

    I guess it was a good reminder that kids are unpredictable and in hindsight
    I should have been further back so that I had more time to react....either
    that or I should have been looking where I was going!!! I have taken that
    lesson on board and will make sure that it doesn't happen again.

    We rode about 6km all up which I think is a good start for her. At least
    she is keen to go again pretty soon!!!

    There were quite a few other bikes out and about and I was pretty
    disappointed that only one person sounded their bell as they approached us
    from behind. This is pretty slack!!! I make a point of signalling everyone
    that I am going to pass that I am coming, especially parents with young kids
    so that they have time to pass the warning on. A couple of times guys flew
    past and didn't miss my kids by much......strangely enough I didn't get any
    replies when I suggested that they provide some sort of warning in the
    future.

    Might have to ride the mountain bike out past Warrandyte in the morning just
    for something to do.......6km at barely running pace is just not enough!!!!

    Gags

  2. Gags said:

    I was reminded yesterday of the importance of signalling your intent when
    riding in a bunch.....I was riding along the Yarra Trail with my 8 y.o. son
    and 6 y.o. daughter. I had only recently been able to convince my daughter
    that she didn't need training wheels and this was pretty well our first ride
    together with all three of us on two wheels only. We were cruising along
    and my daughter was doing really well, even ringing her bell at any walkers
    and other riders that we saw. Anyway, she was in front, I was about 5m to
    8m or so behind her and my son was another 5m or so behind me. We were
    cruising along on a slight downhill at no great speed (less than 10km/h) and
    as I decided to have a drink, my son asked me something. I turned my head
    for a second or two to see what he was on about and when I looked back to
    the front, my daughter had stopped dead in front of me and I was about to
    hit her. I only had my left hand on the bars and I locked up the rear tyre
    but still managed to scone the back of her head with my right bar-end
    (fortunately she had a helmet on). We got tangled up and I fell away from
    her to the left....I had already taken my right foot out as we crashed but
    didn't get the left one out in time.....was all in slow motion as I toppled
    over and landed on the ground and my daughter also came over on top of me
    and my bike. I half managed to prop her up as she fell and then had to
    untangle both her and myself from the bikes. I lost a bit of skin off my
    elbow and my daughter had a couple of scratches on her legs where she got
    tangled in the bikes but the worst part I think was the shock of the whole
    thing to her. She was really upset and it took a good 5 minutes of cuddling
    and coaxing before I convinced her to get back on the bike with strict
    instructions to say "Daddy I'm Stopping" very clearly prior to her hitting
    the anchors. The rest of the ride was pretty uneventful and she stopped at
    least 10 more times without forgetting to give the signal first......gotta
    teach them young.

    I guess it was a good reminder that kids are unpredictable and in hindsight
    I should have been further back so that I had more time to react....either
    that or I should have been looking where I was going!!! I have taken that
    lesson on board and will make sure that it doesn't happen again.

    We rode about 6km all up which I think is a good start for her. At least
    she is keen to go again pretty soon!!!

    There were quite a few other bikes out and about and I was pretty
    disappointed that only one person sounded their bell as they approached us
    from behind. This is pretty slack!!! I make a point of signalling everyone
    that I am going to pass that I am coming, especially parents with young kids
    so that they have time to pass the warning on. A couple of times guys flew
    past and didn't miss my kids by much......strangely enough I didn't get any
    replies when I suggested that they provide some sort of warning in the
    future.

    Might have to ride the mountain bike out past Warrandyte in the morning just
    for something to do.......6km at barely running pace is just not enough!!!!

    Gags


    It appears that only those who have had kids appreciate how
    unpredictable they can be on bikes. (Or on roads for that matter)
    I always give kids a wide berth as I know how much mine can wander on
    their bikes. Pisses me off no end that many other riders assume kids
    have the same bike smarts and ability that they have.

  3. Sorry to hear that you came off your bike and your Daughter got a fright. I
    hope you heal quickly and your Daughter doesn't get scared from riding.

    In hindsight wouldn't it be better to ride with both kids infront of you ?
    That way you can see what they are doing right or wrong. If they have an
    accident you can see it immediately too.
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  4. Gags said:

    I was reminded yesterday of the importance of signalling your intent when
    riding in a bunch.....

    I've been out with people new to group riding - adults, not kids - who
    think it's fine to brake hard without warning when they're tired and want
    to rest for a while, get a drink, avoid a pothole they can't get around
    etc.

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  5. i remember back about my 20th post that DRS bailed me out for taking my kid riding on a bike path. apprently they will learn everything in the cupboard 🙄 about 2,732 posts later... oh never mind 😄

    Is it just me or is there an epidemic of parents out with kids on new bikes at the mo?

    ANd latest news. TWO new bike shops within 500m(ish) of where i live!!!!!!!!
    It took 25 years for good coffee to find its way out into the territories of North 'Boring' and now a seemingly overly supply of bike shops. WTF is going on???

    Santa REALLY does exist. Now, about that tandem...

  6. flyingdutch said:

    i remember back about my 20th post that DRS bailed me out for taking my
    kid riding on a bike path. apprently they will learn everything in the
    cupboard 🙄 about 2,732 posts later... oh never mind 😄

    Is it just me or is there an epidemic of parents out with kids on new
    bikes at the mo?

    That would be christmas, Dutchy 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    ANd latest news. TWO new bike shops within 500m(ish) of where i
    live!!!!!!!!
    It took 25 years for good coffee to find its way out into the
    territories of North 'Boring' and now a seemingly overly supply of bike
    shops. WTF is going on???

    Two that close together? Not unprecedented - there's two within 50m at
    Warrigul rd/Toorak Rd, but interesting for the shops - they're quite
    different in focus?

    We have three 'street' tandems in stock at the moment - the apollos are
    quite cheap too. I think their entry level one is about $1200 rrp.

  7. "Bleve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    We have three 'street' tandems in stock at the moment - the apollos are
    quite cheap too. I think their entry level one is about $1200 rrp.

    While on the subject of tandems.....I remember some time ago seeing a couple
    on a tandem with a tandem trail-a-bike on the back (bicycle equivalent of a
    road train). It is the only time that I have ever seen one of the tandem
    trail-a-bikes and I was wondering if anyone in Australia currently stocks
    them??

    Gags

  8. On 30 Dec 2006 15:21:13 -0800, "Bleve" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Two that close together? Not unprecedented - there's two within 50m at
    Warrigul rd/Toorak Rd, but interesting for the shops - they're quite
    different in focus?

    Yeah. Very different. ACR (ex. the Triathlete Shop) has road bikes and
    the occasional track bike. They used to stock quite a few TT bikes.
    Barry Wadell on the other side of Burwood Hwy is more the family bike
    shop.

    Seems to be enough business for both.

    --
    Regards.
    Richard.

  9. Richard Sherratt said:


    Yeah. Very different. ACR (ex. the Triathlete Shop) has road bikes and
    the occasional track bike. They used to stock quite a few TT bikes.
    Barry Wadell on the other side of Burwood Hwy is more the family bike
    shop.

    Seems to be enough business for both.


    looks like the same scenario 'out here'. One is an Avanti 'concept' store and th other is 'Rays'...

  10. "Gags" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I was reminded yesterday of the importance of signalling your intent when
    riding in a bunch.....I was riding along the Yarra Trail with my 8 y.o. son
    and 6 y.o. daughter. <snip>


    This morning on the Bike Path between Perth City and Swan Brewery, I found
    myself coming up to a family - Mum, Dad, two girls looking about 14 and 10.
    The older girl moved ahead of the bunch and started weaving from side to
    side over both lanes of the path. No idea seemingly that the path is the
    equivalent of a roadway for cyclists, not somewhere to have some fun. As I
    passed by the parents they started calling out to the girl, but she didn't
    hear them. A simple call from me of 'Rider' created an instant behaviour
    change and an apology, which I think was repeated after I quietly called
    (admittedly through clenched teeth) 'Keep left' in a low voice as I rode
    past.

    Hopefully a lesson learnt, and without any need for histrionics on my part.

    I had just been through South Perth which is notorious for uncontrolled
    children with families, usually on foot, but no problem there. Most families
    probably still in bed after New Year revels.

    Happy New Year to all.

    Beavers

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