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  1. Well i decided that It was time to teach myself how to build wheels, so I checked out sheldon brown
    and then set otu to the garage. After getting all the spokes on, and to my surprise, i got it right.
    The problem im having now is that I have a horrible dish, one side of the wheel, the spokes are
    almsot straight, and the other side is at a horrible angle. I had tighetened all the spokes to the
    same spot in the nipple. And they all had the same tenson. So I thought mayeb i messed up, so i
    loosened all the spokes and tightened all of them to the same place inisde the nipple., same
    problem, so i loosened one side and tightened the other, well now the dish is gone. But now i have
    about a 1/8" of spoke sticking out of one sides nipples, and I cnat see the others.

    Did i screw up lacing some where? The spokes ARE the correct length becasue i just took apart and
    existing rim I had, and used all of its parts, so all the spokes cam form this huba nd rim. So what
    did I do wrong? When I took it aprat all the spokes were in the similar place inside the nipples.

    Im not sure what i did wrong

  2. (TJ Poseno) may have said:

    Im not sure what i did wrong

    Check and make sure that you don't have one side laced cross-3 and the other either cross-2 or
    cross-4. That would do it.

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  3. "TJ Poseno" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well i decided that It was time to teach myself how to build wheels, so I checked out sheldon
    brown and then set otu to the garage. After getting all the spokes on, and to my surprise, i got
    it right. The problem im having now is that I have a horrible dish, one side of the wheel, the
    spokes are almsot straight, and the other side is at a horrible angle. I had tighetened all the
    spokes to the same spot in the nipple. And they all had the same tenson. So I thought mayeb i
    messed up, so i loosened all the spokes and tightened all of them to the same place inisde the
    nipple., same problem, so i loosened one side and tightened the other, well now the dish is gone.
    But now i have about a 1/8" of spoke sticking out of one sides nipples, and I cnat see the others.

    Did i screw up lacing some where? The spokes ARE the correct length becasue i just took apart and
    existing rim I had, and used all of its parts, so all the spokes cam form this huba nd rim. So
    what did I do wrong? When I took it aprat all the spokes were in the similar place inside the
    nipples.

    Im not sure what i did wrong

    This is a rear wheel right? The spokes on the drive side are shorter than the non drive side and it
    sounds like you mixed them up. Take the wheel apart again and measure the spokes with a metal metric
    ruler hooking the elbow of the spokes over the end of the ruler at 0mm. When you lace it up again
    put the longer set on the non drive side.

    When you lace up the wheel leave 2-3 threads showing at each nipple. And when you start to bring the
    spokes up to tension start at the valve hole and give each nipple1/2 turn each keeping the rim true
    as you go. As tension builds make smaller adjustments as you go, like 1/4 turn each, and you may
    have to skip the non drive side spokes every other pass or two. This is sort of a learned feel thing
    and you will get the hang of it after a few wheels.

    I totally screwed up my first build but re-did it and rode it for many years before I sold the bike
    it was on. It's still going I think.

    Mike

  4. When you bought the spokes, did you (or the salesperson) make sure they were the correct lengths?
    The right spokes are shorter than the left spokes. I always have the LBS measure my rim and hub and
    make the correct determination for spoke lengths.

    TJ Poseno said:

    Well i decided that It was time to teach myself how to build wheels, so I checked out sheldon
    brown and then set otu to the garage. After getting all the spokes on, and to my surprise, i got
    it right. The problem im having now is that I have a horrible dish, one side of the wheel, the
    spokes are almsot straight, and the other side is at a horrible angle. I had tighetened all the
    spokes to the same spot in the nipple. And they all had the same tenson. So I thought mayeb i
    messed up, so i loosened all the spokes and tightened all of them to the same place inisde the
    nipple., same problem, so i loosened one side and tightened the other, well now the dish is gone.
    But now i have about a 1/8" of spoke sticking out of one sides nipples, and I cnat see the others.

    Did i screw up lacing some where? The spokes ARE the correct length becasue i just took apart and
    existing rim I had, and used all of its parts, so all the spokes cam form this huba nd rim. So
    what did I do wrong? When I took it aprat all the spokes were in the similar place inside the
    nipples.

    Im not sure what i did wrong

  5. Well its a front wheel, sorry forgot to mention that, the spokes i bought werent bought. They
    were the original spokes for the rim and wheel. Im going to check my lacing tonight and get back
    to you all.

    Are the spokes different legnths on the front wheel as well? I took them all fo and put them in one
    bunch, so its highly unlikely i got all the rides sioght spokes on the left ro vice cersa.

  6. summit-<< After getting all the spokes on, and to my surprise, i got it right. The problem im having
    now is that I have a horrible dish, one side of the wheel, the spokes are almsot straight, and the
    other side is at a horrible angle. >><BR><BR>

    Have the shorter spokes on the right, and the longer on the left??

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  7. Werehatrack said:
    (TJ Poseno) may have said:

    Im not sure what i did wrong

    Check and make sure that you don't have one side laced cross-3 and the other either cross-2 or
    cross-4. That would do it.

    Yea, I did that with my first wheel. Went back to the bike shop and asked if the spokes were too
    long -- was told that I'd laced it 2x.

    David

  8. TJ Poseno said:

    Well its a front wheel, sorry forgot to mention that, the spokes i bought werent bought. They
    were the original spokes for the rim and wheel. Im going to check my lacing tonight and get back
    to you all.

    A front wheel should be easy. All the spokes are the same length, same tension, no dish. You must
    have a lacing problem.

    Art Harris

  9. "Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    TJ Poseno said:

    Well its a front wheel, sorry forgot to mention that, the spokes i bought werent bought. They
    were the original spokes for the rim and wheel. Im going to check my lacing tonight and get back
    to you all.

    A front wheel should be easy. All the spokes are the same length, same tension, no dish. You must
    have a lacing problem.

    Art Harris

    Unless it's a disc hub. But IIRC, TJ doesn't have one of those...yet. ;^)

    Mike

  10. Well upon further inspection, I found that i had the lacing different on one side. One side i had a
    spoke 4 holes from spoke A.

    On the other side I have the next spoke __3__ holes from spoke A

  11. Cool! : )

    TJ Poseno said:

    Well upon further inspection, I found that i had the lacing different on one side. One side i had
    a spoke 4 holes from spoke A.

    On the other side I have the next spoke __3__ holes from spoke A

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  12. it'll get worse before it gets better...

  13. "g.daniels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    it'll get worse before it gets better...

    Murphy?! ;^)

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