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  1. reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    I would appreciate it if anybody had some comments on this product. Seems pretty cool to me. I don't
    wear a helmet at the moment, but I am thinking about it.

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    Thanks.
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  2. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johann S. said:


    reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    So, if you want one, by all means get one, for your own enjoyment. The Heads Up Display aspect
    /is/ somewhat ingriguing. But I wouldn't count on it revolutionizing cycling.

    Thanks for your info. I'll buy one, but first i'd like to see the quality of the image one sees in
    the mirror. Problem is, where to get hold of one around here. 🙁

    If I buy one, I'll report my impressions back here.

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  3. Johann S. said:


    Thanks for your info. I'll buy one, but first i'd like to see the quality of the image one sees in
    the mirror. Problem is, where to get hold of one around here. 🙁

    yes I like the idea. I bet it is better then the mirror I have attached to my helmet. but even that
    the image is pretty good.

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  4. Steve Knight said:
    Johann S. said:

    Thanks for your info. I'll buy one, but first i'd like to see the quality of the image one sees in
    the mirror. Problem is, where to get hold of one around here. 🙁

    yes I like the idea. I bet it is better then the mirror I have attached to my helmet. but even that
    the image is pretty good.


    No mirrors for me! I'm still surprised by the quality of the image I see in the bathroom mirror
    every morning. Shoulder checks work. Drivers notice when you are checking and very often assume you
    are about to move to the left. (North American protocols here) , and pull back a bit so you can make
    your move. Best regards, Bernie

  5. Bernie said:

    No mirrors for me! I'm still surprised by the quality of the image I see in the bathroom mirror
    every morning. Shoulder checks work. Drivers notice when you are checking and very often assume you
    are about to move to the left. (North American protocols here) , and pull back a bit so you can
    make your move. Best regards, Bernie

    with my glasses and all I can't turn enough to see clearly. also with this racing bike I tend to
    swerve when I do.

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  6. On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:21:52 -0700, Bernie <[email hidden]> wrote:

    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    No mirrors for me! I'm still surprised by the quality of the image I see in the bathroom mirror
    every morning. Shoulder checks work. Drivers notice when you are checking and very often assume you
    are about to move to the left. (North American protocols here) , and pull back a bit so you can
    make your move.

    It doesn't have to be just one or the other. Bike mirrors have blind spots just like car mirrors, so
    it is still necessary to do the occasional shoulder check. I always do it before turning or changing
    lanes, and occasionally at other times.

    Still, I find my eyeglass mounted mirror very useful for keeping track of what's behind me, and I
    rarely ride without it.

    MP

  7. Steve Knight said:
    Bernie said:

    Shoulder checks work. Drivers notice when you are checking and very often assume you are about to
    move to the left. (North American protocols here) , and pull back a bit so you can make your move.
    Best regards, Bernie

    with my glasses and all I can't turn enough to see clearly. also with this racing bike I tend to
    swerve when I do.


    Well, I confess to having vision issues too. L eye is very nearsighted, R eye is very farsighted, a
    little astygmatism (you spell it!) and these damn 'progressive' lenses. Even so, it is a learned
    skill to shoulder check safely. "Safely" meaning while keeping a straight line of forward motion. I
    think I learned to shoulder check by doing the look back rather slowly and carefully, versus
    quickly. That way you do it without anxiety and no jerky motion. It's like most learned moves: first
    you get good, then you get fast. I know racing bikes are pretty twitchy, it's probably easiest to do
    with your hands on the hoods? Bernie

  8. MP said:

    On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:21:52 -0700, Bernie <[email hidden]> wrote:

    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    No mirrors for me! I'm still surprised by the quality of the image I see in the bathroom mirror
    every morning. Shoulder checks work. Drivers notice when you are checking and very often assume
    you are about to move to the left. (North American protocols here) , and pull back a bit so you
    can make your move.

    It doesn't have to be just one or the other. Bike mirrors have blind spots just like car mirrors,
    so it is still necessary to do the occasional shoulder check. I always do it before turning or
    changing lanes, and occasionally at other times.

    Still, I find my eyeglass mounted mirror very useful for keeping track of what's behind me, and I
    rarely ride without it.

    MP


    No problem here! I know there are pluses to mirrors. I just don't use one. With luck, this won't
    turn into a mirror war! Bernie

  9. Steve Knight said:


    with my glasses and all I can't turn enough to see clearly. also with this racing bike I tend to
    swerve when I do.

    If you swerve when you shoulder check, you _definitely_ need to practice! Start practicing in a
    deserted parking lot, using painted lines to check your straightness. When you're good there, try it
    on a fog line where the shoulder's wide.

    You should be able to ride straight, within 6" or so. Get good at riding.

    --
    Frank Krygowski

  10. Quoted message said:

    I know racing bikes are pretty twitchy, it's probably easiest to do with your hands on the
    hoods? Bernie

    I can't seem to get turned enough to get my glasses into play. so the mirror is great. but I still
    make sure if I am not positive.

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  11. O

    Quoted message said:

    If you swerve when you shoulder check, you _definitely_ need to practice! Start practicing in a
    deserted parking lot, using painted lines to check your straightness. When you're good there, try
    it on a fog line where the shoulder's wide.

    never had the problem till the racing bike but it is getting better.

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  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Steve Knight

    Quoted message said:

    O

    Quoted message said:

    If you swerve when you shoulder check, you _definitely_ need to practice! Start practicing in a
    deserted parking lot, using painted lines to check your straightness. When you're good there, try
    it on a fog line where the shoulder's wide.

    never had the problem till the racing bike but it is getting better.

    Some folks find it easiest to look under their armpit.

    I find "softer" pedalling while shoulder checking helps me maintain a straight line. YMMV.

    If neck flexibility is an issue, it might help to do occasional shoulder checks while walking, just
    to get those neck muscles used to it. Do both sides - left and right.

    cheers, Tom

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  13. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Badger

    South) said:
    Quoted message said:


    If neck flexibility is an issue, it might help to do occasional shoulder checks while walking,
    just to get those neck muscles used to it. Do both sides - left and right.

    In full biking gear, cleats and helmet? OK, I'll give it a try. ;-D

    Don't forget to signal your turns.

    cheers, Tom

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  14. In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Steve Knight

    Quoted message said:

    O

    Quoted message said:

    If you swerve when you shoulder check, you _definitely_ need to practice! Start practicing in a
    deserted parking lot, using painted lines to check your straightness. When you're good there, try
    it on a fog line where the shoulder's wide.

    never had the problem till the racing bike but it is getting better.

    Some folks find it easiest to look under their armpit.

    I find "softer" pedalling while shoulder checking helps me maintain a straight line. YMMV.

    If neck flexibility is an issue, it might help to do occasional shoulder checks while walking, just
    to get those neck muscles used to it. Do both sides - left and right.

    In full biking gear, cleats and helmet? OK, I'll give it a try. ;-D

    -B

    Quoted message said:

    cheers, Tom

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  15. In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Badger

    South) said:
    Quoted message said:


    If neck flexibility is an issue, it might help to do occasional shoulder checks while walking,
    just to get those neck muscles used to it. Do both sides - left and right.

    In full biking gear, cleats and helmet? OK, I'll give it a try. ;-D

    Don't forget to signal your turns.

    cheers, Tom

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    Well, that's easy, considering I can use both hands. ;-P

    -B

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  16. I ride a short wheelbased recumbent bike. The 'over the shoulder' look to see rear traffic is
    difficult on a recumbent so I thought the idea of a built in review mirror was perfect for me. I saw
    one of these things on eBay and made the purchase (around $100 USD). Unfortunately, the helmets are
    set up for standard type bike riders. When in the recumbent position, I get a pretty good view of
    the road directly in back of me, but must tilt my head down in front to see what's really coming up
    behind me.

    The quality of the image is not what is advertised on the web site. It is distorted to the point
    that 'objects in mirror are not as close as they appear'- the opposite of what you would think.
    The actual viewing mirror is small, and it does take some getting used to. The quality of the
    helmet is good, well made, and not too bad looking, but I could've spent my $100 on a regular
    helmet and been happier.

    Chuck

    Johann S. said:


    reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    I would appreciate it if anybody had some comments on this product. Seems pretty cool to me. I
    don't wear a helmet at the moment, but I am thinking about it.

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    Thanks.

  17. Quoted message said:

    I ride a short wheelbased recumbent bike. The 'over the shoulder' look to see rear traffic is
    difficult on a recumbent so I thought the idea of a built in review mirror was perfect for me. I
    saw one of these things on eBay and made the purchase (around $100 USD). Unfortunately, the
    helmets are set up for standard type bike riders. When in the recumbent position, I get a pretty
    good view of the road directly in back of me, but must tilt my head down in front to see what's
    really coming up behind me.

    The quality of the image is not what is advertised on the web site. It is distorted to the point
    that 'objects in mirror are not as close as they appear'- the opposite of what you would think.
    The actual viewing mirror is small, and it does take some getting used to. The quality of the
    helmet is good, well made, and not too bad looking, but I could've spent my $100 on a regular
    helmet and been happier.

    Thanks Chuck.

    I've pretty much decided to skip on this helmet, partly because the distributor here in SA do not
    seem to want to sell me one anyway.

    I'll just practice stretching those neck muscles.

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  18. I've been in contact with them. They don't have a US destructor yet. Don't know anyone that
    has used one.

    "Johann S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    I would appreciate it if anybody had some comments on this product. Seems pretty cool to me. I
    don't wear a helmet at the moment, but I am thinking about it.

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    Thanks.
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  19. I've been in contact with them. They don't have a US distributor yet. Don't know anyone that
    has used one.

    "Johann S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    I would appreciate it if anybody had some comments on this product. Seems pretty cool to me. I
    don't wear a helmet at the moment, but I am thinking about it.

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    Thanks.
    --

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  20. I've been in contact with them. They don't have a US distributor yet. Don't know anyone that
    has used one.

    "Johann S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    reevusa.co.zareevusa.co.za

    I would appreciate it if anybody had some comments on this product. Seems pretty cool to me. I
    don't wear a helmet at the moment, but I am thinking about it.

    This is a helmet with a built in rear view mirror. Anybody with experience using them?

    Thanks.
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