Ricitius said:campagnolo is the italian system right? how is that, anyone recommend it? what is the 105, ultegra, and dura ace equivalents of campagnolo
Yes its Italian, Camapgnolo have a wider range - it starts with Xenon, Mirage, Veloce, Centaur and Record.
The top three would probably be pretty well equivalent to 105, Ultegra and Dura Ace.
Campy levers have a more "traditional" look you might say compared to Shimano, but I think the shifting quality is pretty similar. I have used Mirage and Veloce before, and various Shimano groups - and I think most of it comes down to personal choice - Campy feels a lot different and the shifting mechanism is a little different.
I think weights are similar and so are prices for the top sets. Some say that Campy levers etc can be rebuilt with spare parts, where Shimano can't.
I personally like Campagnolo - the look and the feel.
And here's a bit of trivia - Lance Armstrong is the only man to win the Tour De France with Shimano components (that doesn't count last year of course, we don't know who won yet - what a long race it turned out to be).