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  1. Hey Palachick, do you suppose no one would recognize your scrawl? You may be right but no one wants
    to agree with you.

    "RACER X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Age-graded designations have ruined the sport of cycling. Slicing up


    the

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    pro ranks into [censored] U23 and under 27 designations is as gay as a


    $4

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    bill.

    The best cyclists in the world were showing their stuff by the time


    they

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    were 22, 23. And then you got guys on the other end of the spectrum


    like

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    the Jooper and the 38 year old who bunny-hopped in the finale at Paris-Roubaix telling all you
    people that these categories are for queers.

    rider's

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    birthday constitutes their own personal category. This way, USA


    Cycling

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    can give out another 39,000 stars & stripes jerseys on top of the 2 million they already give out
    every year.

    There's only one Superbowl champion.

    Enjoy your holidays,

    Racer X

    Scott Hendricks said:

    from bike.com, "American Cycling and Division III: Time For A


    Change?

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    Opinion Mixed As To Whether The TT3 Designation Works In The US "

    "Half the roster can be over the age cutoff. If you're 28 and


    can't

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    make that half of one of the Division III rosters, then maybe it's time to start thinking about
    doing something else," opines Sportsbook.com director Bill Laudien. "I mean, if you are 28 and


    you

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    can get on a roster, terrific. If you get signed, you deserve it


    and

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    you are most likely a tremendous asset to your team. But, if you


    can't

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    make the top half of the roster of some of these lower-budget


    teams,

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    then I suspect that you're probably not very good and probably not going to get much
    better.....If the rule means that a 30-year old


    guy

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    with marginal talent is forced to stop living out of his car and begging for bike parts, then
    the rule is not unfair- it's an act


    of

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    mercy. One of my riders from this year, Matt Svatek, might be the


    only

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    exception. If guys want to take issue with me over that, then they


    are

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    free to prove me wrong. Go pull a Scott Price or Drew Miller and


    race

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    as an amateur, beat the [censored] out a bunch of pros, and get yourself


    a

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    contract in 2005. There is nothing more I like to see than the underdog succeed."

    I wonder if the 'over 27' guys have tried the approach of bringing along a younger rider at
    little/no support to meet the 50/50 ratio rule? It seems that the top Euro riders bring along
    siblings/friends/former teammates all the time when they negotiate contracts.

    Oh, yea, that comment about an act of mercy, priceless!

    Scott

  2. "pedalchick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Two words: Ludo Dierckxsens

    Two more - Gilbers Duclos-Lasalle .

  3. "Bill Laudien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Your post makes no sense. When Bostick was good, he got on teams.


    If

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    he was good now ( at the pro level), he'd get on a team. Perhaps


    you

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    are referring to my comments about most riders not getting much


    better

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    after 28 in which case I stand by my statements as true in most


    cases.

    Bill, the point is that you don't make anything better by allowing riders of lesser ability to race.

  4. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In that you're obviously too stupid to understand, Laudien's point


    is as

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    follows: If you haven't shown that you've got what it takes to be a


    pro

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    racer by the time that you're 27, chances are extremely good that


    you're out

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    of time.

    And since you're too brain-dead to understand - whatever someone else decides to do is none of your
    ignorant fWcking business. What sort of freakout head-case would think that taking out better
    performing riders would make the sport better? (oh yeah - YOU)

    If a younger rider has a chance then he can beat those poor pitiful 27 year olds that seem to be
    kicking their butts right now. Right nothing like making the sport even more mediocre to improve it.

    But then I wouldn't expect anything better from a Trdina.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Kunich

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    "TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Yeah Tom! Way to make the sport better, and get more young people


    and sponsors

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    involved! Just because some of the people who are pros now came up


    without a lot of

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    help, let's not help anyone ever! Bitter, are we?

    That has nothing to do with it. Real Racers(tm) come from junior programs and NOT from pro
    programs that give someone a salary to be mediocre. If you want to give someone a hand up start
    verymuch improved junoir programs and you'll have all of the pros you ever wanted and more.

    Maybe so, maybe not. When I started racing as a junior back in the late 70's we often had 50-70 guys
    in the 16-18 fields, but virtually nobody progressed to being a pro in Europe.

    How many of today's US-based and Europe-based pros came from Junior "programs"? What has happened to
    the majority of guys who were in USAC's "junior programs" during the last 10 years?

    -WG

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