Phil M. said:dot.h@#duh?att.net said:Awhile ago there was some question about relative weights of Brooks
shoes and their advertised weights. Here's some data for women's 8.5,
wide if there's an option (only GTS). Trespass, Adrenaline ASR, and
Cascadia are right out of box.
So you've bought the Cascadia? Let us know how that works for you.
I bought a pair to try. They don't have any torsional stability, which
is what my PT suggested originally. I'm wondering how much of a role
torsional stability, if any, plays when running in punchy snow or mud,
considering lower leg is going multiple directions.
I'm going to take my Cascadias in this week and my PT will take a quick
look at them with me on treadmill. He's wanted to see a pair anyway ever
since I asked him about them. Considering Scott Jurek is a PT and helped
design the shoe, it's supposed to have some interesting features,
hopefully not marketing hype. I like the feel of the shoe, but have only
had it on briefly inside house.
Quoted message said:What's the deal? Did you find a good sale on Brooks? ;-)
No, but since my Trespasses have been discontinued, I need to find a
replacement. I'd also like to find something without quite as open mesh
that lets all the grit in. Not too much of an issue where I run, but
it could be other places. Sometimes I'd also like more forefoot
protection. I think the Adrenaline ASR might be the closest bet since it
has the diagonal roll bar that the Cascadias don't have. Cascadias might
have better forefoot. Some people seem to be using orthotics with them
to make them work for them. But that defeats the purpose of the
drainable insole.
Anyway, I asked over in another group since I know the one guy
(jamiedpt) is very knowledgeable about shoes (is PT, makes orthotics,
and has shoe store). Since the ASR is the logical one (torsional
stability), I asked if he'd mind if I ordered a pair of the Cascadias
and have my PT take a look at them. If they didn't work, and the
expectation is that they wouldn't, be able to send them back. (didn't
want to appear dumb by ordering the pair not expected to work) He
encouraged me to try them so I'd know. He also found 2 more pair of
Trespasses in my size, which I was happy to get.
That left me with an order of Cascadias, ASR, and Trespasses arriving at
same time so I took advantage of weighing them fresh out of box.
I use the Adrenalines as everyday shoes. They have too little forefoot
protection for me to use them for running.
Quoted message said:
In my size - 12M
GTS 4: 14 oz
GTS 5 (1st pair): 13.5 oz
GTS 5 (2nd pair): 14 oz
GTS 5 (3rd pair): 13.5 oz
ASR: 15.7 oz
How do you find the ASRs compare with GTS as far as flexibility
(forefoot bending) and forefoot protection? Just the little bit that
I've had them on, they seem a little stiffer than the Trespasses which
are stiffer than the GTS. But I usually spend some time bending the
forefoot area to break it in so (haven't done that with these new shoes)
I'm not sure 1st impressions are correct.
Dot
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