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  1. Just about to head off for London to give a conference presentation this
    afternoon when I hear that the Tube is out after multiple "electrical"
    explosions. Thought I'll take the Brompton instead but have just heard
    a bus bomb has gone off outside Euston. Just trying to work out if even
    the Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos and whether the
    conference is continuing.

    I guess we were all expecting it to happen some time and it looks like
    it just has.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  2. On 07/07/2005 10:24:17 Tony Raven said:

    Just about to head off for London to give a conference presentation this
    afternoon when I hear that the Tube is out after multiple "electrical"
    explosions. Thought I'll take the Brompton instead but have just heard a
    bus bomb has gone off outside Euston. Just trying to work out if even the
    Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos and whether the conference is
    continuing.

    Quoted message said:

    I guess we were all expecting it to happen some time and it looks like it
    just has.

    Just listening to it live on the web, they have said a power surge but
    judging by the bomb report in Russell Square, the power surge idea may
    be just an anti panick alert, looks more like a terrorist activity but
    I hope I am wrong.
    --

    Buck

    I would rather be out on my Catrike

    http://www.catrike.co.uk

  3. Buck said:


    On 07/07/2005 10:24:17 Tony Raven said:

    Just about to head off for London to give a conference presentation this
    afternoon when I hear that the Tube is out after multiple "electrical"
    explosions. Thought I'll take the Brompton instead but have just heard a
    bus bomb has gone off outside Euston. Just trying to work out if even the
    Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos and whether the conference is
    continuing.

    Quoted message said:

    I guess we were all expecting it to happen some time and it looks like it
    just has.

    Just listening to it live on the web, they have said a power surge but
    judging by the bomb report in Russell Square, the power surge idea may
    be just an anti panick alert, looks more like a terrorist activity but
    I hope I am wrong.

    Web seems to be behind - the radio has said three bus bombs now, one at
    Euston. BBC site is giving the electrical story still.

    It shows the problems of moving from broadcast to internet news
    services. As at 9/11 when everyone wants the same information at once,
    the network cannot cope. For emergency situations broadcast media still
    has a vital role.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  4. On 07/07/2005 10:41:42 Tony Raven said:

    Buck wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On 07/07/2005 10:24:17 Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just about to head off for London to give a conference presentation this
    afternoon when I hear that the Tube is out after multiple "electrical"
    explosions. Thought I'll take the Brompton instead but have just heard
    a bus bomb has gone off outside Euston. Just trying to work out if even
    the Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos and whether the
    conference is continuing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess we were all expecting it to happen some time and it looks like
    it just has.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just listening to it live on the web, they have said a power surge but
    judging by the bomb report in Russell Square, the power surge idea may be
    just an anti panick alert, looks more like a terrorist activity but I
    hope I am wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    Web seems to be behind - the radio has said three bus bombs now, one at
    Euston. BBC site is giving the electrical story still.

    Quoted message said:

    It shows the problems of moving from broadcast to internet news services.
    As at 9/11 when everyone wants the same information at once, the network
    cannot cope. For emergency situations broadcast media still has a vital
    role.

    Much of it is speculation at the moment.

    --

    Buck

    I would rather be out on my Catrike

    http://www.catrike.co.uk

  5. Tony Raven said:

    It shows the problems of moving from broadcast to internet news
    services.

    True, though I'd say that it's web rather than internet services which
    really perform poorly at such times. It's a shame the Beeb doesn't run a
    more stripped down service at such times. Although they've removed much of
    the eye candy from the front page in response it's still pitifully slow.

    Quoted message said:

    As at 9/11 when everyone wants the same information at
    once, the network cannot cope. For emergency situations broadcast
    media still has a vital role.

  6. Buck said:

    Much of it is speculation at the moment.

    Police have now confirmed three bus explosions. One in Tavistock Place,
    one in Russell Square. One speculates that the tube explosions were not
    electrical but it could be coincidence. Yahoo seems to be getting the
    info up quicker than the BBC.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  7. On 07/07/2005 10:58:21 Tony Raven said:

    Buck wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Much of it is speculation at the moment.

    Quoted message said:

    Police have now confirmed three bus explosions. One in Tavistock Place,
    one in Russell Square. One speculates that the tube explosions were not
    electrical but it could be coincidence. Yahoo seems to be getting the
    info up quicker than the BBC.

    The Russell Square and Tavistock place event is one in the same.
    --

    Buck

    I would rather be out on my Catrike

    http://www.catrike.co.uk

  8. On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:17 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Just trying to work out if even
    the Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos

    Bikes cut through chaos very well, especially Bromptons.

    Quoted message said:

    and whether the conference is continuing.

    That is a more difficult question. I suspect that the answer is not,
    partly because of the disruption.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

  9. David Hansen said:

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:17 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Just trying to work out if even
    the Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos

    Bikes cut through chaos very well, especially Bromptons.

    Quoted message said:

    and whether the conference is continuing.

    That is a more difficult question. I suspect that the answer is not,
    partly because of the disruption.

    Just phoned to cancel - mainline stations are closed; Paddington trains
    are ending at Reading; GNER cancelled - and not even a Brompton can deal
    with that plus Government has now issued a do not travel request.

    Not having to listen to me is a minor conselation for those at the
    conference who are going to have a bad day getting home.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  10. Simonb said:
    Tony Raven said:

    It shows the problems of moving from broadcast to internet news
    services.

    True, though I'd say that it's web rather than internet services which
    really perform poorly at such times. It's a shame the Beeb doesn't run a
    more stripped down service at such times.

    They ALWAYS have a stripped down service:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm

    That's where I normally start. There are cross
    links between the high-graphic and low-graphics
    versions.

    BugBear

  11. bugbear said:

    They ALWAYS have a stripped down service:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm

    I know that, you know that. But the ROW doesn't; and their traffic affects
    the text-only service throughput at such times.

  12. "bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Simonb said:
    Tony Raven said:

    It shows the problems of moving from broadcast to internet news
    services.

    True, though I'd say that it's web rather than internet services which
    really perform poorly at such times. It's a shame the Beeb doesn't run a
    more stripped down service at such times.

    They ALWAYS have a stripped down service:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm

    That's where I normally start. There are cross
    links between the high-graphic and low-graphics
    versions.


    Strangely the "text_only" page contains 3 (albeit small) pictures.

  13. Tony Raven said:

    Government has now issued a do not
    travel request.

    I heard that on the BBC traffic news.

    So, obviously, only a complete idiot would start to travel at the moment.

    Tony B Liar has just left Scotland, on his way to London....

    Pete.

  14. PeteC said:

    Tony B Liar has just left Scotland, on his way to London....


    Lets hope he doesnt come back.

  15. At Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:47:02 +0100, message
    <[email hidden]> was posted by Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]>, including some, all or none of the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Just phoned to cancel - mainline stations are closed; Paddington trains
    are ending at Reading;

    I'd have lent you the 'bent for the last leg into London, but I was
    in the arms of Morpheus at the time. I now have a headache; can't
    work out if it's an anaesthetic hangover or the weather.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  16. At Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:58:21 +0100, message
    <[email hidden]> was posted by Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]>, including some, all or none of the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Police have now confirmed three bus explosions.

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    Not the IRA, then. We all know what happened when they were sent to
    blow up a bus...

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  17. On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:23:53 +0100,

    David Hansen said:

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:17 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Just trying to work out if even
    the Brompton will be able to cope with the chaos

    Bikes cut through chaos very well, especially Bromptons.


    Not when the roads are closed even to pedestrians. I had an interesting
    time getting to Euston (including being directed the wrong way up a one
    way street by a policeman :-)

    (OTOH an extra two miles or so on a bike isn't so bad :-)

    Tim.

    --
    God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
    and there was light.

    http://tjw.hn.org/ http://www.locofungus.btinternet.co.uk/

  18. PeteC said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Government has now issued a do not
    travel request.

    I heard that on the BBC traffic news.

    So, obviously, only a complete idiot would start to travel at the moment.

    Tony B Liar has just left Scotland, on his way to London....

    The master of the futile gesture. If only he did nothing
    more harmful than that:-(

    It's a remarkable coincidence that this should be timed for exactly
    when he's making his finest speeches and getting good press.
    Couldn't have timed it better if he'd organised the whole thing ...

    --
    Not me guv

  19. Quoted message said:

    It's a remarkable coincidence that this should be timed for exactly
    when he's making his finest speeches and getting good press.
    Couldn't have timed it better if he'd organised the whole thing ...

    Eh? No, it's [censored] timing. He was all set up for declaring a doubling of
    aid[1] and the 100% dropping of debt for the poorest countries[2]. This
    completely overshadows all of that - he left it quite late before he flew
    down to London. Actually doing some good is more Gordon Brown's cup of
    tea.

    [1] bollocks unfortunately - take off inflation, plus the increase already
    pledged.

    [2] look at the conditions attached.

  20. On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:49:48 +0100 someone who may be Nick Kew
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tony B Liar has just left Scotland, on his way to London....

    The master of the futile gesture.

    Indeed. Perhaps he should learn about modern telecommunications. I
    have no doubt that a full teleconference suite is available in the
    prison at Gleneagles.

    Quoted message said:

    Couldn't have timed it better if he'd organised the whole thing ...

    The reported number of deaths has been remarkably low, though still
    a tragedy for those involved. While I don't think it is an Italian
    situation I do wonder why this was and if those concerned wanted to
    maximise casualties and were "unlucky".

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

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