brompton pannier

Quoted message said:

Hi - I have an L3 and want to avoid sweaty back by buying a bag to clip
at the front - but could use some advice please: 1. Once the carrier
block and clip is fitted, does it still fold up as before? or do i need
to take the block off each time? 2.

It folds exactly as before. The block doesn't interfere at all, it just
sits there waiting for a bag.

Even with the bag attached you can do a partial fold and then pull the
bike and bag along on its casters.

Quoted message said:

Is it easy to fit myself or will i
need to get a professional to do it?

It's very easy to fit, just two screws into the threaded holes that are
already on the front of your bike. It'll either be right first time or
upside down!

Quoted message said:

3. anyone got any advice about
whether the cloth pannier or the touring pannier is better? thanks very
much

I guess it depends what you are doing. I use the cloth pannier. The rear
pockets are useful for tools, waterproof, food, etc. The main
compartment has a back pocket to take a few documents. There's also the
third option of the folding basket (which isn't a basket at all.)

Colin

thanks! i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

Quoted message said:

Hi - I have an L3 and want to avoid sweaty back by buying a bag to clip
at the front - but could use some advice please: 1. Once the carrier
block and clip is fitted, does it still fold up as before? or do i need
to take the block off each time? 2. Is it easy to fit myself or will i
need to get a professional to do it? 3. anyone got any advice about
whether the cloth pannier or the touring pannier is better? thanks very
much

It folds with the block on although you are better taking the bag off
first (although it is possible to fold with the bag on). Fitting is a
few minutes work for anyone competent at self assembly furniture. I
prefer the shopping bag as you can throw anything in it, including
rucksacs, waterproofs, gloves etc. The panniers are limited to what you
can fit inside them.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

hb said:

thanks! i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

I don't know, how big is you helmut?!

I think with the cloth pannier you'll find yourself constrained by the
shape rather than the size when it comes to odd-shaped things like a
helmet. I can imagine that my helmet would fit in the pannier but it
would probably take up half the space available.

Colin

Colin Blackburn said:

hb said:

thanks! i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

I don't know, how big is you helmut?!

He's a big lad:

url:http://www.muempfer.de/Kohl.jpg

(dies)

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
They came for Eamonn Holmes; I think I'm right in saying that I
applauded.

the shopping bag as in the 'basket'?
apologies to everyone for absurd spelling of helmet

ps and an even more stupid question - where do you buy them from? did
you have to get a cycle shop to order specially?

hb said:

ps and an even more stupid question - where do you buy them from? did
you have to get a cycle shop to order specially?

It depends where you live! If you don't have a local Brompton dealer
then you could try one of the several that have on-line shops:

Biketrax is one but there are others:
http://www.biketrax.co.uk/products.php?plid=m6b0s154p0

Colin

hb said:

the shopping bag as in the 'basket'?
apologies to everyone for absurd spelling of helmet

Have a look at the Biketrax link in the other post of mine. It shows all
three luggage options.

Colin

Dave Larrington said:

Colin Blackburn said:

hb said:

thanks! i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

I don't know, how big is you helmut?!

He's a big lad:

url:http://www.muempfer.de/Kohl.jpg

(dies)

How can you take a nation seriously that is run by Mr Cabbage?

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

hb said:

the shopping bag as in the 'basket'?
apologies to everyone for absurd spelling of helmet

Yes - and it will easily fit your helmut ;-)

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:55:30 +0100, [email hidden] wrote
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Quoted message said:

[...] 3. anyone got any advice about
whether the cloth pannier or the touring pannier is better? thanks very
much

I got the shopping bag on the basis it would be easier to stuff odd sized
things into it, and this has proved to be the case with a bungee tied to the
forward handle to go over sticky-out things. I have an old mesh potato sack
(now washed) for loose/wobbly shopping that might overflow the sides. I got a
couple of quite large plastic carrier bags to go over everything when it
rains, and the edges tuck under the bungee - I like that these bags are white
and show up better in the gloom than the black bags. So far it has all worked
well enough that the urge to get a proper posh bag has faded.

M.

Tony Raven said:

How can you take a nation seriously that is run by Mr Cabbage?

Can we have one to replace The Liar, please?

--
Not me guv

hb said:

thanks! i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

The cloth pannier is around 20l while the touring pannier is nearly 30.
I have the Cloth pannier, which takes enough shopping for a useful
small shopping trip. If you want to overload then the lid just folds
out of the way, and it is a bit more rainproof than the open bag... The
seal on the touring pannier is rather more elaborate, and I think the
cloth pannier is a better general purpose do most things bag.

A helmet will easily fit in the cloth pannier, but not at the same time
as lots of shopping... However, you can always do the chinstrap up
around the carrying handle. (Personally, I solved this issue by
stopping wearing a helmet, which makes for more comfortable cycling,
especially if the weather's like it is at the moment.)

The mount/release system is very neat and works superbly. You'll be
cursing yourself for not having bought one all the time you've been
using a rucksack...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

hb said:

i am mostly commuting - and am using a medium sized day
rucksack at the moment. is the cloth pannier large enough to carry my
helmut when i'm not on the bike?

The cloth pannier should, as others have said, do the job. It is not
waterproof, though, only showerproof. It will comfortably fit a
laptop, book, waterproof and sandwich box, plus the back pockets have
room for puncture kit, spare tube, water bottle and maybe a few other
bits.

As to the helmet - well, I wouldn't know. I've never felt the need to
wear one while riding the Brom.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

On 28 Jun 2005 07:55:30 -0700 someone who may be
[email hidden] wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Hi - I have an L3 and want to avoid sweaty back by buying a bag to clip
at the front

Very sensible.

Quoted message said:

1. Once the carrier
block and clip is fitted, does it still fold up as before?

Yes.

Quoted message said:

2. Is it easy to fit myself

Remove the two plastic plugs that are in the frame. Then put the
block on, the right way up. Insert screws and clip. Do these up.
Enjoy.

Unless you are particularly useless at things mechanical it is an
easy job.

Quoted message said:

3. anyone got any advice about
whether the cloth pannier or the touring pannier is better?

As a generalisation the former is better for general town use, the
latter for touring type activities. The basket also has advantages
for town use, as you can just throw other bags into it.

As well as Brompton's new luggage it is also possible to make bags
yourself, though the ready made ones cover most eventualities.

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prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen said:

As well as Brompton's new luggage it is also possible to make bags
yourself, though the ready made ones cover most eventualities.

It may well be possible to source the mounting frame that sits on the
frame block as a separate item, if you ask a good Brompton dealer
nicely. You'll keep the clean and simple mount design and can fettle
the actual baggage according to your own need.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Peter Clinch said:

David Hansen said:

As well as Brompton's new luggage it is also possible to make bags
yourself, though the ready made ones cover most eventualities.

It may well be possible to source the mounting frame that sits on the
frame block as a separate item, if you ask a good Brompton dealer
nicely.

I don't think you need to ask nicely---though it always helps---it's a
standard spare. Biketrax stock it.

Colin

Peter Clinch said:

David Hansen said:

As well as Brompton's new luggage it is also possible to make bags
yourself, though the ready made ones cover most eventualities.

It may well be possible to source the mounting frame that sits on the
frame block as a separate item, if you ask a good Brompton dealer
nicely. You'll keep the clean and simple mount design and can fettle
the actual baggage according to your own need.

It is certainly listed as being available as a separate item on the
Brompton website.
http://www.bromptonbicycle.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=bikerange.luggageoptions

FWIW I've used both the cloth and touring panniers and prefer the latter
by far.
It holds a considerable amount more and can carry quite large items if
the roll top is left undone - a four-foot tall rubber plant on one
occasion; 3 x 5 ream boxes of paper on another.

IMO the roll tops and clips are much better than zips, which can have a
tendency to get stuck - and they leak more.

I also like the mesh pockets - ideal for throwing in all sorts of odds
and sods.

John B