My wife has a Brompton ( well we share it )that is just coming up to two years old.Whilst I love riding it I do feel that the quality of the components and the finish leave a little to be desired.
The green paintwork chips just by looking at it.It went back to Brompton about 3 months after purchase as I was dissatisfied but they said it was OK.I had put clear tape over some areas subject to cable rub,Brompton said these weren't necessary so I removed them and lo and behold the paint on the front stem rubbed down to bare metal in a short period of time.
You need a black one. Touch ups are trivial on mine
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The spokes on the rear wheel have broken twice and the mudguard stays have long ago started to rust along with the fixing bolts.Under the mudguard stay bolts has become milky white as if there is some corrosion going on.
Went off-road with mine at the weekend (along a bridlepath). Have never broken a spoke, but keeping up with son's MTB was not easy.
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I just feel it is a shame that such a splendid little bike ( but not particularly cheap ) should be let down by poor quality components.
Problems with mine have been
1) water staining of the shiny mudguards - due to stresses on rear (it's an L6 so the guard takes a pound under folding). They were replaced but I can't be bothered again. Going to switch to black ones
2) The SA threespeed hub has dulled and shows a little rust.
Perhaps you've been unlucky.
regards, daren
Brommies used on seagoing yachts quickly look worse for wear. Something suggest the OP's bike sees a lot of a Salt too😉 -- --- Marten Gerritsen
bloody thick (#13) spokes to compensate for improper wheelbuilding. Build the wheel with care, maybe with washers to compensate for the narrow flanges and the wheel should be very strong.
Thick spokes are not the answer to breakage or improper wheelbuilding. Normal butted spokes are better and improper wheelbuilding should be corrected. YMMV
-- Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci
My wife has a Brompton ( well we share it )that is just coming up to two years old.Whilst I love riding it I do feel that the quality of the components and the finish leave a little to be desired.
The green paintwork chips just by looking at it.It went back to Brompton about 3 months after purchase as I was dissatisfied but they said it was OK.I had put clear tape over some areas subject to cable rub,Brompton said these weren't necessary so I removed them and lo and behold the paint on the front stem rubbed down to bare metal in a short period of time.
You need a black one. Touch ups are trivial on mine
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The spokes on the rear wheel have broken twice and the mudguard stays have long ago started to rust along with the fixing bolts.Under the mudguard stay bolts has become milky white as if there is some corrosion going on.
Went off-road with mine at the weekend (along a bridlepath). Have never broken a spoke, but keeping up with son's MTB was not easy.
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I just feel it is a shame that such a splendid little bike ( but not particularly cheap ) should be let down by poor quality components.
Problems with mine have been
1) water staining of the shiny mudguards - due to stresses on rear (it's an L6 so the guard takes a pound under folding). They were replaced but I can't be bothered again. Going to switch to black ones
2) The SA threespeed hub has dulled and shows a little rust.
Perhaps you've been unlucky.
regards, daren
Brommies used on seagoing yachts quickly look worse for wear. Something suggest the OP's bike sees a lot of a Salt too😉
Yes I like that one ,lol.
If you infer that I am a lard [censored] causing spokes to break, then the answer is no I am afraid I aren't.
If you infer that I am a lard [censored] causing spokes to break, then the answer is no I am afraid I aren't.
But only the first spoke can really be blamed on the builder. When you get it fixed you ask the wheelmonger to check, true and tension the wheel and then any subsequent problems are the wheelmonger's or yours if you ride into big holes regularly.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
If you infer that I am a lard [censored] causing spokes to break, then the answer is no I am afraid I aren't.
But only the first spoke can really be blamed on the builder. When you get it fixed you ask the wheelmonger to check, true and tension the wheel and then any subsequent problems are the wheelmonger's or yours if you ride into big holes regularly.
not entirely true i'm afraid. Spokes break due to fatigue. Unless the wheelmonger rebuilds the wheel with new spokes, you're still stuck with a whole bunch of spokes which have seen similar loads which caused one to fail. The other spokes will probably fail too. You're hoping the distribution is such that they will fail a lot later. -- --- Marten Gerritsen
Thick spokes are not the answer to breakage or improper wheelbuilding.
According to Jobst Brandt, thinner, swaged (butted) spokes make a stronger wheel because they spread the load over a larger section of the rim.
I have no way of verifying this... but it sounds impressive if you say it in an authoritative tone. :-)
The tone doesn't impress me much, but occasionally JB gets it right 😉
Butted spokes have a smaller cross-section and have to stretch further to achieve the same load on the rim. Which means they can spring back further than the heavy spoke, and will still support the elasticaly deformed rim when the thick spoke would be ratling loose in the spokehole. A cyclic load going to zero is much worse fatiguewise for a spoke than a cyclic load with the same amplitude where the spoke is in tension the whole time.
